| Posted by: Toxteth Jack at January 18, 2006, 10:34 am | | Topic: Unfair gaming at Pacific? Forum: Bonus Whores | I agree that the site can be utterly frustating and I find myself playing more on Stars now. Starting the bonus whoring next month with Party so I suppose Pacific will get used less and less but I certainly wouldn't discourage a newbie from signing up there, it's a good place to learn the basics and how to switch gears while still increasing the bankroll.
Most important from a beginners viewpoint is, imo, Pacifics' history lobby. Replaying every hand from the last session and thinking about what I should have done at that type of table advanced my understanding of the game a great deal. Serious chess players often spend more time analysing a game than it took to play it but many poker players just curse their bad luck and start a new session after losing.
It makes the site a good bet for anyone starting with a br so small they can't afford PT but are prepared to improve by reviewing past hands.
Once experienced and with a br good enough to play anywhere....yeah it's not hard... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: hofdaddy at January 3, 2006, 11:47 pm | | Topic: Unfair gaming at Pacific? Forum: Bonus Whores | solring wrote: hofdaddy wrote: Only a pack of dumbasses would collude at 1/2 limit
None of my non-poker playing friends believe me when I mention this...
why collude at 1/2 when you can collude at 15/30 and get some real scratch? That just doesn't make sense.
Elric-
Yeah. it hasn't gotten any better over the last 2+ years either
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| Posted by: elric at January 3, 2006, 8:38 am | | Topic: Unfair gaming at Pacific? Forum: Bonus Whores | hofdaddy wrote: Only a pack of dumbasses would collude at 1/2 limit
Problem is you just described 90% of the people who play at Pacific, dumbasses.
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| Posted by: solring at January 2, 2006, 9:59 pm | | Topic: Unfair gaming at Pacific? Forum: Bonus Whores | hofdaddy wrote: Only a pack of dumbasses would collude at 1/2 limit
None of my non-poker playing friends believe me when I mention this...
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| Posted by: hofdaddy at January 2, 2006, 9:42 pm | | Topic: Unfair gaming at Pacific? Forum: Bonus Whores | there was a guy in the Zoo a couple of years back that admitted to colluding on this site. that's all I've ever heard about it. you guys shouldn't have to worry about colluding at the lower levels. Only a pack of dumbasses would collude at 1/2 limit
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| Posted by: LORDFocker at December 30, 2005, 7:46 pm | | Topic: Unfair gaming at Pacific? Forum: Bonus Whores | Same thing happened to me, and many others (see 2+2)
Did a search on two plus two and couldnt find the posts. Would you mind pointing me to them?
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| Posted by: elric at December 25, 2005, 10:58 am | | Topic: Unfair gaming at Pacific? Forum: Bonus Whores | I love it when you point out that Pacific is the hangout of Thieves, Killers, Assasins, Colluders, Cheaters, etc. yet you will alway get a few yahoo's saying what a great site it is and how they make dump trucks of cash playing there.
You can only play one table, the software explodes & implodes more than Internet Explorer version 1.0 and the majority of the players are colluding against you.
Caveat Emptor!
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| Posted by: peritonlogon at December 19, 2005, 1:00 am | | Topic: Unfair gaming at Pacific? Forum: Bonus Whores | | I have relied on pacific for a substantial portion of my income for some time now, i made one deposit of $200 a year and a half ago and have not regretted it in any way. If collusion happens frequently it hasn't affected my hourly at all. I have played most every limit up to $10/$20 in holdem and 7stud, as well as ,$10, $25, $50, $100 and $200max nl and omaha/8 up to 3/6 and have not had a problem. If there are colluders I don't think they're cutting into a good players edge too much... ie the suck. The cashout time sucks at pacific, but, it's never taken me more than 1.5 months of 1 tabling that site (averaging around 20 hours per weak) to go from a 1/2 bank roll to a 3/6 250bbish when I've had to cash out large sums and grind. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: rafsonjoni at December 14, 2005, 2:03 am | | Topic: Unfair gaming at Pacific? Forum: Bonus Whores | I have a friend who went on a rush from $3 left in his account on 5c/10c 7 stud to over $5600, ending up at 30/60 SH in the end. The upswing and then back down was absolutely nuts. Lost it all but still had the comp points which were then turned into $500.
The problem with collusion on pacific is that you can have many accounts login via the same IP, u just need another PC. SO someone could have 4 comps all playing at the same table. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Grinder at December 8, 2005, 6:05 am | | Topic: Unfair gaming at Pacific? Forum: Bonus Whores | Montana.T I have to agree. However - this has been a problem with Pacific for years and you hav to wonder WHY they are being picked on and WHy they are being picked on by the GOOD players.
Of course there software is bug riden so how could be fixed to be rigged. Does not make sense.
I think the entire problem is why so many WINNING players are spooked by it.
I totally understand why players think sites are rigged, it IS varience and 95% of players lose ANYWAY. But then why do so many players with 2BB/100 claim that they are spooked by the place.
I'm with you - it makes zero sense to say a place is rigged. But there is a perception going on that Pacific needs to fix.
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| Posted by: Montana.T at December 8, 2005, 4:17 am | | Topic: Unfair gaming at Pacific? Forum: Bonus Whores | zaraka wrote:
Do I think the vast majority of poker rooms are rigged ... no. Do I think Pacific is rigged? Only if you cash out over $1,000 in winnings many months in a row without making any deposits; then yes. Pacific is a great place to cash in for a while but once they put you on the "list" (or hit you with the "BLAMO") you might as well forget it exists and move on.
I dont want to suggest that 2+2 and the guys here are wrong ...but ... if one poker site was rigged,wouldnt that suggest that more were?
This thread suggets that Pacific can pick and choose wining and losing players at will .... i heard the same things being said about prima,. party, stars and UB .... just seems weird that ONLY ONE site was rigged .. if one is, surely they all are?
Therefore, that would suggest that none are.
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| Posted by: zaraka at December 7, 2005, 11:06 pm | | Topic: Unfair gaming at Pacific? Forum: Bonus Whores | Quote: Was recently playing 2-4 LHE on Pacific Poker and noticed the chat exploding with a player who was violently angry with the site calling them "cheaters" and saying that he was "on the list".
Same thing happened to me, and many others (see 2+2)
Quote: It's called variance. Move on, nothing to see here.
On any site but Pacific I would agree but this has happened to too many people on Pacific after cashing out $1,000+ for many months in a row ... If you search 2+2 you will find many people (including me) cashed out $1,000+ from there for 6,7,8 months in a row then BLAMO, you can't win anymore regardless how fishy the tables are. After about 6 weeks of that and reading it had happened to many others I gave up and quit playing there. Then I had my wife open an account (that I played on) and went right back to winning like crazy.
Also, I met (face to face) a "team" player who was willing to talk to me about how his "team" operated. Any guesses what site they operat... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Mikke_ at December 7, 2005, 11:26 am | | Topic: Unfair gaming at Pacific? Forum: Bonus Whores | Grinder wrote: You will find this at Pacific more then any other poker room. I'm not into the "theory" but in 6 years of online play pacific ALWAYS as this talk and frankly - I will not play there again for this very reason. . . . . and I consider myself sane.
Probebly nothing to it but I know many good players that will not play there for this very reason.
Their software is bug ridden, their pre flop numbers are so far off the mark it's a joke and there is so much collusion going on why even bother to report it.
Do I think it's rigged? certainly not - it would be ludicras - but I won't play there.
OK - I'll maybe carry on with the play-cashout-play thing then - I played $1/$2 for an hour last night, only played two hands to the river - about $9 pot for one, but $53 for the other. I seemed to be between a biding war, even though I bet the flop first with my A5s I had called from the SB - 55rag on flop. Trips held up, so another $40 to cashout .
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| Posted by: Grinder at December 6, 2005, 7:52 pm | | Topic: Unfair gaming at Pacific? Forum: Bonus Whores | You will find this at Pacific more then any other poker room. I'm not into the "theory" but in 6 years of online play pacific ALWAYS as this talk and frankly - I will not play there again for this very reason. . . . . and I consider myself sane.
Probebly nothing to it but I know many good players that will not play there for this very reason.
Their software is bug ridden, their pre flop numbers are so far off the mark it's a joke and there is so much collusion going on why even bother to report it.
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| Posted by: jgoldstein at December 6, 2005, 6:34 pm | | Topic: Unfair gaming at Pacific? Forum: Bonus Whores | elric wrote: LORDFocker wrote: Just wondering if anyone else has experienced anything similar to this. $2-$4 LHE on Pacific is worth about $500 per month to me right now due to the looseness of the games. If the above is true I would like to know how to avoid it. Any suggestions or feedback?
Many believe that some of this loosness you are frequently subjected to is collusion by a team of players. Every now and then you get lucky and sneak a pot away from them. Pacific has had a very soft policy on known cheaters/colluders which has made a lot of good players avoid the site entirely.
Soft policy is a giant understatement. Some punk actually asked me if I wanted to team up w/him. There were others openly alluding to it on their chat. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Mikke_ at December 6, 2005, 4:40 pm | | Topic: Unfair gaming at Pacific? Forum: Bonus Whores | I did a search and this is about the only thread that I can find with a reference to the Handgrabber add-on for PT.
Although some of the above posts are a little unsettling, I'll still ask the question I had in mind.
Has anyone here actually used the handgrabber add-on. I have just been to the PT site Forums and there seem to be a few issues with reliability.
I am also always uncomfortable when a program opens up the Poker site for you....
Any comments gratefully received - otherwise I will continue to play there without a parachute...
Cheers.
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| Posted by: frozone at July 5, 2005, 4:31 pm | | Topic: Unfair gaming at Pacific? Forum: Bonus Whores | | I've played there off and on for a year and ahead about $1000. I haven't seen anything wrong with the deals.. if anything, considering the multiway action I've noticed that weaker hands tend to hold up and win more often than other sites. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: HajiShirazu at July 5, 2005, 10:53 am | | Topic: Unfair gaming at Pacific? Forum: Bonus Whores | | I don't think getting a fair shuffle is anything to worry about at this place but it is a well known home for colluders particularly at the higher limits. I am personally up a few hundred in my pacific career but I just got tired of the constant disconnects. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: HeelHo at July 2, 2005, 9:19 pm | | Topic: Unfair gaming at Pacific? Forum: Bonus Whores | I think Ive played 12500 hands there...........5/1 up to 2/4 and Ive won about 900 from the play, but its WEIRD. It looks like old school paradise flops in O8 one round, and the next its liek reload weekend at stars. I dont have the hand grabber for there because I just dont play it enough anymore. And their attitude is atrocious. Its like we make a hella lot at the casino, and for some reason dumb fuckers play at our casino. Why should we bother to fix the software, we make a killing. They just arent into working on poker.
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| Posted by: elric at July 2, 2005, 8:16 pm | | Topic: Unfair gaming at Pacific? Forum: Bonus Whores | Pacific is the one poker room that I recommend you pass on the poker room and hit up the CASINO!
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| Posted by: Grinder at July 2, 2005, 8:13 pm | | Topic: Unfair gaming at Pacific? Forum: Bonus Whores | No _ I'm not a person that thinks there are weird things going on but if you have the worst software on the net with known bugs and known and proven BAD stats AND a large number of players with 50,000 hands under their belt that all say that place is odd.
Normally the ones that are looking at oddities are the fish. When a lot of sharks hate the place . . . .
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| Posted by: Grinder at July 1, 2005, 10:39 am | | Topic: Unfair gaming at Pacific? Forum: Bonus Whores | I know three good players - including myself - that will never play there after experiencing that and many on 2+2 have also expressed that opinion.
WAY to many coordinated boards, collusiuon, and rottin softwarePLUS the fact that the flop % ois for the last 24 HOURS of that table. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: HeelHo at June 30, 2005, 9:11 pm | | Topic: Unfair gaming at Pacific? Forum: Bonus Whores | Yeah, and some inflated Pot Sizes to boot by that method. 10-12 big bet avg pot sizes at O8 with 2/3 of the hands around 5-7 big bets......and a lot of river folding........games just have a funny feel to them.
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| Posted by: elric at June 30, 2005, 8:50 pm | | Topic: Unfair gaming at Pacific? Forum: Bonus Whores | LORDFocker wrote: Just wondering if anyone else has experienced anything similar to this. $2-$4 LHE on Pacific is worth about $500 per month to me right now due to the looseness of the games. If the above is true I would like to know how to avoid it. Any suggestions or feedback?
Many believe that some of this loosness you are frequently subjected to is collusion by a team of players. Every now and then you get lucky and sneak a pot away from them. Pacific has had a very soft policy on known cheaters/colluders which has made a lot of good players avoid the site entirely.
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| Posted by: Yakface at June 30, 2005, 5:56 pm | | Topic: Unfair gaming at Pacific? Forum: Bonus Whores | I have certainly felt that this was true.......on many sites. Which I think just goes to prove that it is just paranoids mouthing off during a bit of a natural downswing.
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| Posted by: LORDFocker at June 30, 2005, 5:41 pm | | Topic: Unfair gaming at Pacific? Forum: Bonus Whores | Was recently playing 2-4 LHE on Pacific Poker and noticed the chat exploding with a player who was violently angry with the site calling them "cheaters" and saying that he was "on the list". Questioning him further he claimed that he had played on the site for some time and after consistently cashing out about $1000 profit each month (showing that he was a winning player) he noticed his ability to come up with the best hand and win pots dramatically decreased. Another player joined in the discussion and claimed to have experienced the same thing. He said he had won one pot in the past 3 hours in 2-4 and 3-6.
Just wondering if anyone else has experienced anything similar to this. $2-$4 LHE on Pacific is worth about $500 per month to me right now due to the looseness of the games. If the above is true I would like to know how to avoid it. Any suggestions or feedback? | | Static Link |
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