| Posted by: elric at January 30, 2006, 11:28 am | | Topic: KK vs AA on Poker Stars - out of line? Forum: Bonus Whores | BigPoppa wrote: 72s practically plays itself.
The weak part of this holding is that you can only make one flush with it.
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| Posted by: TheJourneyman at January 30, 2006, 9:43 am | | Topic: KK vs AA on Poker Stars - out of line? Forum: Bonus Whores | elric wrote: coloradoholdem wrote: And elric is right anyway - always fold KK - then you won't have this problem. However, I prefer to sub in something like 84off - 72 is what you would sub for AA not KK.
Remember this one fact you can take to the bank, elric is always right at least 50% of the time.
switch 72s for unsuited Aces
switch 72o for unsuited Kings
I think everyone is missing the beauty of 72s & 72o. Post flop it is easy to lay them down without losing your entire stack, unlike pocket Kings or rockets.
When the flop comes 777 or 222 you know your good to continue putting money in the pot. Otherwise you can laydown your hand with the satisfaction that you were not bluffed out of a big pot. I like to wear sunglasses and protective shielding so that my online opponents don't get a read on me.
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| Posted by: elric at January 30, 2006, 9:38 am | | Topic: KK vs AA on Poker Stars - out of line? Forum: Bonus Whores | coloradoholdem wrote: And elric is right anyway - always fold KK - then you won't have this problem. However, I prefer to sub in something like 84off - 72 is what you would sub for AA not KK.
Remember this one fact you can take to the bank, elric is always right at least 50% of the time.
switch 72s for unsuited Aces
switch 72o for unsuited Kings
I think everyone is missing the beauty of 72s & 72o. Post flop it is easy to lay them down without losing your entire stack, unlike pocket Kings or rockets.
When the flop comes 777 or 222 you know your good to continue putting money in the pot. Otherwise you can laydown your hand with the satisfaction that you were not bluffed out of a big pot. I like to wear sunglasses and protective shielding so that my online opponents don't get a read on me.
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| Posted by: TheJourneyman at January 30, 2006, 9:17 am | | Topic: KK vs AA on Poker Stars - out of line? Forum: Bonus Whores | DrStrange wrote: If you are on a full 10 seat ring and hold KK, AA will appear 4% of the hands. Out of 100 KK hands, you should see an average of 4 AA hands. 11 AA hands out of 100 KK hands is significant and not easily explained as bad luck.
For what it is worth. I had 21 KK hands on poker stars in my PT database. None of them were vs AA unless the aces folded prior to showdown.
DrStrange
still too small a sample size - just bad luck
he might go the next 200+ times with KK and not run into AA - people over react in the short term - you have to look at the big picture instead of this very small sample size. The 4% you get I would be is over a ton of hands and if he continues to play I would bet eventually if enough hands are played it would slowly get back down close to 4% or whatever that # should be. of course i am tired and rambling so don't listen to me.
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| Posted by: elric at January 30, 2006, 9:03 am | | Topic: KK vs AA on Poker Stars - out of line? Forum: Bonus Whores | Baseballer02 wrote: Everybody grab your tin foil hat.
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| Posted by: bpb at January 30, 2006, 8:12 am | | Topic: KK vs AA on Poker Stars - out of line? Forum: Bonus Whores | faintinggoat wrote:
I like the site just need to know if I need to adjust my play for abnormal KK vs AA rates.
Thanks,
Definitely,
For starters, don't ever raise KK preflop. If it's ever 2 bets cold to you, fold it .... you're up against AA. Finally, you can bet if checked to you, but don't bother raising ... always AA.
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| Posted by: DrStrange at January 30, 2006, 1:45 am | | Topic: KK vs AA on Poker Stars - out of line? Forum: Bonus Whores | If you are on a full 10 seat ring and hold KK, AA will appear 4% of the hands. Out of 100 KK hands, you should see an average of 4 AA hands. 11 AA hands out of 100 KK hands is significant and not easily explained as bad luck.
For what it is worth. I had 21 KK hands on poker stars in my PT database. None of them were vs AA unless the aces folded prior to showdown.
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| Posted by: elric at January 30, 2006, 1:05 am | | Topic: KK vs AA on Poker Stars - out of line? Forum: Bonus Whores | TylerSalzman wrote: Back in day when I used to play 5 table of NL on Poker Stars it seemed like I would get KK against AA all the time. And unless you get lucky, you usually lose all your stack. Tough to avoid... don't know what to tell you
Do what I do and fold your KK pre-flop. That way you never lose your stack to Aces. To make up for the lost EV I play 72o in its place.
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| Posted by: TylerSalzman at January 29, 2006, 11:50 pm | | Topic: KK vs AA on Poker Stars - out of line? Forum: Bonus Whores | | Back in day when I used to play 5 table of NL on Poker Stars it seemed like I would get KK against AA all the time. And unless you get lucky, you usually lose all your stack. Tough to avoid... don't know what to tell you | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Mikke_ at January 29, 2006, 11:12 pm | | Topic: KK vs AA on Poker Stars - out of line? Forum: Bonus Whores | Don't know how you pull the KK/AA stat.
But I've won 61% of the time with KK, and 80% with AA.
Seems reasonable.
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| Posted by: faintinggoat at January 29, 2006, 10:58 pm | | Topic: KK vs AA on Poker Stars - out of line? Forum: Bonus Whores | I'm a gold member at Poker stars so I play alot.
It seems like AA was showing up alot more than other sites.
I went back to my poker tracker and got:
Out of 100 times that I've recieved KK as a hand i've seen AA 11 times.
Its suppose to be closer to 1 in 28 on a ten seat tables so even bigger for stars 9 seat tables,
Can others go back to their poker track and double check to see it this is how site is or if I'm just unlucky.
I like the site just need to know if I need to adjust my play for abnormal KK vs AA rates.
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