| Posted by: Mitch at November 29, 2007, 7:26 pm | | Topic: Cake and PokerTracker Forum: Bonus Whores | jack.duck wrote: daraider wrote: i found it interesting if you change nicks, the playernotes still stay with the player. So they allow that.
does taht feature even work? seems like wehn i would write a note, i would never see it again
I have lots of notes but i haven't really found myself playing with a player i don't recognise that i have notes on. Strange. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Mitch at November 29, 2007, 7:23 pm | | Topic: Cake and PokerTracker Forum: Bonus Whores | Self Made wrote: Mitch wrote: Quote: In order to allow players to study their hands, CakePoker stores a Hand History text file for every player that can be reviewed later. Tools have emerged over the years to allow players to better understand their own play by loading these text files for analysis. For some players, these tools are useful to try and learn how to better their play. CakePoker welcomes players to study their own hand histories to better their own play, so long as they do not use tools during game play.
That's not from the terms of service.
No it's from the tracking prevention page.
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| Posted by: jack.duck at November 29, 2007, 6:50 pm | | Topic: Cake and PokerTracker Forum: Bonus Whores | daraider wrote: i found it interesting if you change nicks, the playernotes still stay with the player. So they allow that.
does taht feature even work? seems like wehn i would write a note, i would never see it again
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| Posted by: Self Made at November 29, 2007, 6:24 pm | | Topic: Cake and PokerTracker Forum: Bonus Whores | Mitch wrote: I'm certainly not going to risk having my account closed.
Especially when the guy who created it said if he had read the T&C's that he wouldn't of made the product work on cake.
This is what the developer said, after providing the same links and similar commentary to mine above:
I think you are right, their feelings are clear. To be honest, if I had been aware of their policy I wouldn't have bothered to support the site. Thank you for bringing it to everyone's attention.
I doubt they are going to close accounts over this. They would have a hard time justifying it since their TOS makes no mention of tracking software - whereas they do explicity say bots are forbidden. But that's just my opinion. I am not a lawyer and I wouldn't care to sue them in the Antilles anyway.
I think it is more likely they will take technical measures to frustrate users. I'm not going to make any attempt to circumvent anything they do.
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| Posted by: jack.duck at November 29, 2007, 6:22 pm | | Topic: Cake and PokerTracker Forum: Bonus Whores | if thats in the terms of service, i stand corrected. thanks for the info.
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| Posted by: Self Made at November 29, 2007, 6:20 pm | | Topic: Cake and PokerTracker Forum: Bonus Whores | Mitch wrote: Quote: In order to allow players to study their hands, CakePoker stores a Hand History text file for every player that can be reviewed later. Tools have emerged over the years to allow players to better understand their own play by loading these text files for analysis. For some players, these tools are useful to try and learn how to better their play. CakePoker welcomes players to study their own hand histories to better their own play, so long as they do not use tools during game play.
That's not from the terms of service. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Mitch at November 29, 2007, 6:06 pm | | Topic: Cake and PokerTracker Forum: Bonus Whores | | Quote: In order to allow players to study their hands, CakePoker stores a Hand History text file for every player that can be reviewed later. Tools have emerged over the years to allow players to better understand their own play by loading these text files for analysis. For some players, these tools are useful to try and learn how to better their play. CakePoker welcomes players to study their own hand histories to better their own play, so long as they do not use tools during game play. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: jack.duck at November 29, 2007, 5:12 pm | | Topic: Cake and PokerTracker Forum: Bonus Whores | i dont think it violates terms of service unless i missed the section, this was the only semi-relevant thing i saw:
9. ROBOTS, ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AND OTHER SYSTEMS: It is strictly forbidden to use any automated software or computer system to play at CAKE, including the action of sending information from Your computer to another computer where such software or system is active. Poker-Robots or any software designed to play automatically at poker sites is not allowed. At any time while You are playing at Cake, the Software may scan Your computer for any activity of such software and systems. Usage of such methods will result in the closing of Your account and be subject to confiscation of Your winnings and funds. CAKE reserves the right to publicize information of any such documented abuse including Your personal information.
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| Posted by: Mitch at November 29, 2007, 4:08 pm | | Topic: Cake and PokerTracker Forum: Bonus Whores | I'm certainly not going to risk having my account closed.
Especially when the guy who created it said if he had read the T&C's that he wouldn't of made the product work on cake. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: jack.duck at November 29, 2007, 3:08 pm | | Topic: Cake and PokerTracker Forum: Bonus Whores | umm, im kinda hesitant to tell u guys and kill some of my edge, but this site has been good to me so i will. there is a hud that works on cake. dont know if it works on the skins. its free, and u dont need PT. its called real time hud and even has 3 betting %'s. the nit fest wave will hit cake soon enough
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| Posted by: RobDoral at November 29, 2007, 2:29 pm | | Topic: Cake and PokerTracker Forum: Bonus Whores | Pokeraddict wrote: The fact they are so anti PT/HUD is likely the only reason they have a shot. If people were able to Hudbot the sportsbook fishies the place would fall apart quickly as the 10% better game quality is about the only reason to play there, especially considering the worst US software out there.
They did the right thing here and if they ever change their mind they will ruin a good thing for everyone and potentially kill their own room. The only people that would benefit would be hudbots that would eventually ruin the room anyway.
When I think about Cake I always hope those sportsbetters had a good weekend because that's just the kind of nice guy I am.
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| Posted by: Pokeraddict at November 29, 2007, 12:39 am | | Topic: Cake and PokerTracker Forum: Bonus Whores | The fact they are so anti PT/HUD is likely the only reason they have a shot. If people were able to Hudbot the sportsbook fishies the place would fall apart quickly as the 10% better game quality is about the only reason to play there, especially considering the worst US software out there.
They did the right thing here and if they ever change their mind they will ruin a good thing for everyone and potentially kill their own room. The only people that would benefit would be hudbots that would eventually ruin the room anyway. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Self Made at November 28, 2007, 10:20 pm | | Topic: Cake and PokerTracker Forum: Bonus Whores | GregMiller wrote: Cake bans the use of PT/PO-type software and sends snotty emails to users who ask CS about it. I don't know if they scan your computer and ban you for it or not, though.
IIRC, the hand histories refer to players by seat number rather than name as well.
Cake doesn't ban anything but robots. They do try to make it hard for hand history databases to work, primarily by allowing screen name changes.
The hand histories have player names. I believe they lack mucked at showdown info though, and perhaps other things. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: GregMiller at November 28, 2007, 10:01 pm | | Topic: Cake and PokerTracker Forum: Bonus Whores | danimales wrote: I noticed that Cake downloads all hand histories to your hard drive. Is there anyway to import these into PokerTracker? I know the BW review page says PT doesn't support cake, but is there any known work around?
Cake bans the use of PT/PO-type software and sends snotty emails to users who ask CS about it. I don't know if they scan your computer and ban you for it or not, though.
IIRC, the hand histories refer to players by seat number rather than name as well.
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| Posted by: Pokeraddict at November 27, 2007, 5:23 pm | | Topic: Cake and PokerTracker Forum: Bonus Whores | Spartan73 wrote: AlanN wrote: Even if you could import the data it would be pretty useless since people can change their screen names once a week. They do all this on purpose to make the site more fish friendly, and it works
They removed that feature.
You can change your name on Cake. I don't think you can on other skins though. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: danimales at November 27, 2007, 3:35 pm | | Topic: Cake and PokerTracker Forum: Bonus Whores | GoldBoar wrote: You could still use it to track your own play. I wish I had the 8k+ hands I played at Paradise in my PO database.
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| Posted by: GoldBoar at November 27, 2007, 3:30 pm | | Topic: Cake and PokerTracker Forum: Bonus Whores | You could still use it to track your own play. I wish I had the 8k+ hands I played at Paradise in my PO database.
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| Posted by: Spartan73 at November 27, 2007, 2:43 pm | | Topic: Cake and PokerTracker Forum: Bonus Whores | AlanN wrote: Even if you could import the data it would be pretty useless since people can change their screen names once a week. They do all this on purpose to make the site more fish friendly, and it works
They removed that feature. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: AlanN at November 27, 2007, 11:15 am | | Topic: Cake and PokerTracker Forum: Bonus Whores | Even if you could import the data it would be pretty useless since people can change their screen names once a week. They do all this on purpose to make the site more fish friendly, and it works
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| Posted by: danimales at November 26, 2007, 11:37 pm | | Topic: Cake and PokerTracker Forum: Bonus Whores | | I noticed that Cake downloads all hand histories to your hard drive. Is there anyway to import these into PokerTracker? I know the BW review page says PT doesn't support cake, but is there any known work around? | | Static Link |
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