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Posted by: flafishy at April 26, 2005, 3:30 pm
Topic: WSOP step tournys at party Forum: Bonus Whores
The point is that the buy-in and entry fee for the Steps are paid for by the players -- it's taken out of the prize pool.

So if you win a freeroll into Step 2, $55+$5 or whatever it is, that money comes out of the prize pool from Step 1. So the $60 comes out of the Step 1 prize pool, with $55 going to pay your buy-in into Step 2 and the $5 going into Party Poker's coffers.

So Party spreads the freerolls out as far as they can to keep as many people playing as possible in these things without busting out. Because every time you get a free replay, Party Poker still gets the entry fee even though you don't have to actually pay it out of your account again.

Does that make sense?
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Posted by: Spartacus at April 23, 2005, 7:36 am
Topic: WSOP step tournys at party Forum: Bonus Whores
Quote: doesnt the freeroll cover the fee?


It does. My point is that many players are basically running in place while Party pockets the juice each SNG.

They awarded me a replay of Step 1 for finishing 5th, otherwise I would have been done. Maybe I'd play one again, maybe not. By not paying all the money to the top 2, Party has assured themselves a steady stream of players for these Steps.

IMO, the only thing a 5th place finisher in a 10 player SNG should get is a 'thanks for playing'.
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Posted by: pilgrimshoes at April 22, 2005, 6:57 pm
Topic: WSOP step tournys at party Forum: Bonus Whores
mother fuck...

4 straight 2nd place finishes..

Quote: Bottom line, I have played 13 SNGs and paid $21 in rake for my $12 in probably 6 hours of play. The payout structure is very shrewd on Party's part in that I could play these forever without ever getting anywhere.

doesnt the freeroll cover the fee?
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Posted by: Bankroll at April 22, 2005, 1:48 pm
Topic: WSOP step tournys at party Forum: Bonus Whores
Spartacus wrote: Party always gets there money though....

Yes, including 10% off the top of both the Bad Beat Jackpot and the new High Hand Jackpot tables.

I don't play for these promotions, but does anyone know if most B&M poker rooms shave off 10% for profit on their jackpot rakes? Just curious.
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Posted by: Spartacus at April 22, 2005, 6:33 am
Topic: WSOP step tournys at party Forum: Bonus Whores
I bought into one of these a few weeks ago for $12. I just finished my 11th Step 1 this morning winning for the 3rd time. All the other times I finished in the top 5 so I got a replay for free. I also finished in the top 5 in the Step 2's for replays on Step 1.

Bottom line, I have played 13 SNGs and paid $21 in rake for my $12 in probably 6 hours of play. The payout structure is very shrewd on Party's part in that I could play these forever without ever getting anywhere.

Party always gets there money though....
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Posted by: TheJourneyman at April 21, 2005, 6:32 pm
Topic: WSOP step tournys at party Forum: Bonus Whores
largeeyes wrote: Problem is, you get hands like this one. First hand.

***** Hand History for Game 1930411057 *****
NL Hold'em $11 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:11506242 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Thursday, April 21, 21:20:54 EDT 2005
Table WSOP Step 1 #1009715 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: lawrencelv ( $800 )
Seat 5: joey_cal ( $800 )
Seat 6: sashalee ( $800 )
Seat 4: PeterCarland ( $800 )
Seat 8: Oilerbomber ( $800 )
Seat 10: thertiredpro ( $800 )
Seat 3: largeeyes ( $800 )
Seat 1: A_D_1958 ( $800 )
Seat 9: Sycuan ( $800 )
Seat 7: Yetmasi ( $800 )
Trny:11506242 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to largeeyes [ Jh Js ]
A_D_1958 calls [15].
lawrencelv folds.
largeeyes raises [55].
PeterCarland folds.
joey_cal did not respond in time.
joey_cal folds.
sashalee calls [55].
Yetmasi folds.
Oilerbomber is al...
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Posted by: largeeyes at April 21, 2005, 6:29 pm
Topic: WSOP step tournys at party Forum: Bonus Whores
Problem is, you get hands like this one. First hand.

***** Hand History for Game 1930411057 *****
NL Hold'em $11 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:11506242 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Thursday, April 21, 21:20:54 EDT 2005
Table WSOP Step 1 #1009715 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: lawrencelv ( $800 )
Seat 5: joey_cal ( $800 )
Seat 6: sashalee ( $800 )
Seat 4: PeterCarland ( $800 )
Seat 8: Oilerbomber ( $800 )
Seat 10: thertiredpro ( $800 )
Seat 3: largeeyes ( $800 )
Seat 1: A_D_1958 ( $800 )
Seat 9: Sycuan ( $800 )
Seat 7: Yetmasi ( $800 )
Trny:11506242 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to largeeyes [ Jh Js ]
A_D_1958 calls [15].
lawrencelv folds.
largeeyes raises [55].
PeterCarland folds.
joey_cal did not respond in time.
joey_cal folds.
sashalee calls [55].
Yetmasi folds.
Oilerbomber is all-In [800]
Sycuan f...
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Posted by: Funk Butter at April 21, 2005, 4:08 pm
Topic: WSOP step tournys at party Forum: Bonus Whores
I basically asked the same thing I did here, except much more explicit.

pilgrimshoes wrote: ahah post the reply..

Thank you for contacting us.

With regards to your e mail we would like to inform that, you can buy
direct buy in to any of WSOP steps . These steps are available 24/7.

We request our players to use free roll as soon as possible because
those tournaments will available or not.

For more details on WSOP steps please go through the link:

http://www.partypoker.com/news/events/wsop-steps.html
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Posted by: pilgrimshoes at April 21, 2005, 10:37 am
Topic: WSOP step tournys at party Forum: Bonus Whores
ahah post the reply..
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Posted by: Funk Butter at April 21, 2005, 8:17 am
Topic: WSOP step tournys at party Forum: Bonus Whores
Does anybody have any idea what happens to your Steps entries when the WSOP starts? For example, say you are still winding your way thru the steps when time runs out and they shut them down. What happens to your entries? Do they pay you back any cash, or are you just S.O.L.? I tried emailing Party and got a reply so ridiculous in its ignorance, I didn't bother trying to ask the question again.
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Posted by: hofdaddy at April 7, 2005, 6:32 pm
Topic: WSOP step tournys at party Forum: Bonus Whores
Sounds like the Foxwoods tourneys Jackpot Jay used to talk about before he started becoming a "online poker is rigged" conspiracy maker.
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Posted by: derek at April 5, 2005, 2:00 pm
Topic: WSOP step tournys at party Forum: Bonus Whores
http://www.partypoker.com/news/events/wsop-steps.html

anyone have any luck with these step games??
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