| Posted by: Nomad at May 31, 2005, 9:18 pm | | Topic: is it me or when you are whoring bonuses in pp you get bad.. Forum: Bonus Whores | If it's rigged, I hope they keep it that way. 2 weeks ago I had my best run ever and went up 150 BB in 700 hands at the 1/2 tables. I could do no wrong. Attempted to steal the big blind with suited crap, but got called. Fired once more on the flop. After that, I called down with pot odds in my favor and made the runner runner flush to crack his pocket aces. In contrast, I played live this weekend and lost about 24 BB ($190) in about 200 hands. My aces got run down by a runner runner flush. He had no hand and no draw on the flop, but he called my bets all the way. He didn't even bet or raise when he hit the flush (I love it). My KK lost to a flopped set, but I should've saved $20 on that hand. Felt like I couldn't do anything right. In 6 or 7 hours, I won 3 hands. It happens. Of course, I feel like I played badly on some hands due to frustration.
In a way, I think I deal with bad beats better online since I get so many more hands/hr. I get more bad beats, but a 200 hand drought live l... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: adiaconou at May 30, 2005, 12:18 pm | | Topic: is it me or when you are whoring bonuses in pp you get bad.. Forum: Bonus Whores | hammer2457 wrote: Frankly, I don't give a rats ass what you guys think. Party poker is not regulated by anyone and there will never be any way to prove it's set up. There is no way to program a true RNG and any programmer will tell you that.
I only know what I observe. I only know that I get hands like KT vs TT with a flop of KQ4 having someone call you down when they know they are beat only to see them spike a 10 at the river. It happens constantly. It is the rule at Party and the exception everywhere else I play.
You can't prove it's fair and I can't prove it's set up. So you believe what you want and I will as well.
And why not attack my argument instead of my character. No need for name calling.
kleptodathief wrote: im not saying its rigged to hell....its 'slitely skewed' in lower limits so they can max out the rake ... im talking low NL tables at pp...i've seen countless AA vs KK setups and and dominated hand flops like aq ak and ace flops.... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: depokerstar at May 30, 2005, 9:17 am | | Topic: is it me or when you are whoring bonuses in pp you get bad.. Forum: Bonus Whores | kleptodathief wrote: im not saying its rigged to hell....its 'slitely skewed' in lower limits so they can max out the rake ... im talking low NL tables at pp...i've seen countless AA vs KK setups and and dominated hand flops like aq ak and ace flops...there algorithm will let crap hands win to even out...they don't want u to keep winning winning...when i win i quit for the day cuz i know shit evens out...if u keep grinding raked hands for the bonus u will break even ...wat i mean is say i win like 50$ fast...if i continue to play for just the raked hands i will lose that 50 sooner or later
Complete a fucking sentence and you might gain a little more credibility - but I doubt it. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: kleptodathief at May 30, 2005, 8:02 am | | Topic: is it me or when you are whoring bonuses in pp you get bad.. Forum: Bonus Whores | im not saying its rigged to hell....its 'slitely skewed' in lower limits so they can max out the rake ... im talking low NL tables at pp...i've seen countless AA vs KK setups and and dominated hand flops like aq ak and ace flops...there algorithm will let crap hands win to even out...they don't want u to keep winning winning...when i win i quit for the day cuz i know shit evens out...if u keep grinding raked hands for the bonus u will break even ...wat i mean is say i win like 50$ fast...if i continue to play for just the raked hands i will lose that 50 sooner or later
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| Posted by: 1111 at May 30, 2005, 3:21 am | | Topic: is it me or when you are whoring bonuses in pp you get bad.. Forum: Bonus Whores | CHRISTOPHER wrote: The "rigged/not rigged" debate is the arguing equivalent of the Empire500 joke, only without the joke.
JUST STOP.
WHY DO PEOPLE STILL FUCKING ALLOW THEMSELVES TO GET INVOLVED IN THIS FUCKING THING? HOW MANY TENS OF THOUSANDS OF TIMES DO THE EXACT SAME ARGUMENTS AND COUNTERARGUMENTS HAVE TO BE DREDGED UP BEFORE PEOPLE REALIZE THAT PROGRESS IS NOT BEING MADE?
CHRIST.
I'd had it with this debate two weeks after I started posting in poker forums, but nobody else ever seems to get tired of jacking their dicks back and forth about it for days at a time, then doing it all again a month later.
I think Party's RNG is crooked as a barrel of snakes, but I'll be damned if I ever contend that point with another soul until the day I die.
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| Posted by: CHRISTOPHER at May 30, 2005, 1:42 am | | Topic: is it me or when you are whoring bonuses in pp you get bad.. Forum: Bonus Whores | The "rigged/not rigged" debate is the arguing equivalent of the Empire500 joke, only without the joke.
JUST STOP.
WHY DO PEOPLE STILL FUCKING ALLOW THEMSELVES TO GET INVOLVED IN THIS FUCKING THING? HOW MANY TENS OF THOUSANDS OF TIMES DO THE EXACT SAME ARGUMENTS AND COUNTERARGUMENTS HAVE TO BE DREDGED UP BEFORE PEOPLE REALIZE THAT PROGRESS IS NOT BEING MADE?
CHRIST.
I'd had it with this debate two weeks after I started posting in poker forums, but nobody else ever seems to get tired of jacking their dicks back and forth about it for days at a time, then doing it all again a month later.
I think Party's RNG is crooked as a barrel of snakes, but I'll be damned if I ever contend that point with another soul until the day I die. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Jim Morrison at May 30, 2005, 12:33 am | | Topic: is it me or when you are whoring bonuses in pp you get bad.. Forum: Bonus Whores | hammer2457 wrote: Frankly, I don't give a rats ass what you guys think. Party poker is not regulated by anyone and there will never be any way to prove it's set up. There is no way to program a true RNG and any programmer will tell you that.
I only know what I observe. I only know that I get hands like KT vs TT with a flop of KQ4 having someone call you down when they know they are beat only to see them spike a 10 at the river. It happens constantly. It is the rule at Party and the exception everywhere else I play.
You can't prove it's fair and I can't prove it's set up. So you believe what you want and I will as well.
And why not attack my argument instead of my character. No need for name calling.
I can prove you are an idiot though. Just have to let someone read your post. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: hammer2457 at May 30, 2005, 12:21 am | | Topic: is it me or when you are whoring bonuses in pp you get bad.. Forum: Bonus Whores | Frankly, I don't give a rats ass what you guys think. Party poker is not regulated by anyone and there will never be any way to prove it's set up. There is no way to program a true RNG and any programmer will tell you that.
I only know what I observe. I only know that I get hands like KT vs TT with a flop of KQ4 having someone call you down when they know they are beat only to see them spike a 10 at the river. It happens constantly. It is the rule at Party and the exception everywhere else I play.
You can't prove it's fair and I can't prove it's set up. So you believe what you want and I will as well.
And why not attack my argument instead of my character. No need for name calling. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: adiaconou at May 30, 2005, 12:06 am | | Topic: is it me or when you are whoring bonuses in pp you get bad.. Forum: Bonus Whores | | sites like party poker that have so much traffic have far to much to loose by rigging their sites. you guys say that there are so many big hands against big hands and that never happens in RL, then i ask you how many times have you played 4 tables at once in RL? you are playing over 4x the hands online that you would in RL assuming you are playing 4 tables, plus the deals are much faster and the pace is quicker in general. i am playing party poker right now at 4 25$ NL tables, i had kings 4 times at 3 different tables in a period of 5 (combined between the 4 tables); two of thoee times everyone folded preflop to my raise, and the other two times, i was all in preflop and beat by aces. Shit happens. just gotta remember how many more hands/hr you are playing and that you will see more stuff you usually dont in rl. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Alphaunit1 at May 29, 2005, 4:05 pm | | Topic: is it me or when you are whoring bonuses in pp you get bad.. Forum: Bonus Whores | hammer2457 wrote: NO doubt in my mind party poker is set up. If you flop 2 pair you're gonna lose 90% of the time. And don't let it go to the river if you make your habd at the flop or turn. The nuts can and do lose at the river. The board pairs at that site more than any other site I've played on and I play at several. Overall I make money there but the swings are incredible.
Beyond the moronic level of the rest of your post, I just have to point out for other players that may be reading this - statistically, hands that go to river have a paired board 50% of the time. I could go into an explanation of the math behind it if desired, but that's just the way things work. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: bryan2137 at May 29, 2005, 1:48 pm | | Topic: is it me or when you are whoring bonuses in pp you get bad.. Forum: Bonus Whores | | the only time i find i start losing while whoring is when i didnt account for enough time to clear a bonus so i drop down to the 200nl tables and 4 table to knock them out quickly. Then i find i start thinking there's no way i can lose to these players because they're just terrible but i outthink myself and dont play my best game, or i dont adjust to the weaknesses of the tables because i'm not paying close enough attention, i dont have good enough notes on enough players, i dont know what they're trying to accomplish with the moves they make my reads are off my bets are either too strong or too weak i dont know how to maximize my money and i lose a ton of value. Thats why i try to make sure that the bonuses i'm clearing are gonna get cleared naturally instead of me going out of my way to have to do it and in the end costing myself more bb/hr than im gaining with the additional bonus money. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: FeelingLucky at May 29, 2005, 6:05 am | | Topic: is it me or when you are whoring bonuses in pp you get bad.. Forum: Bonus Whores | kleptodathief wrote: they want fishes to win those runner runners so they keep playing
A site does not have to be rigged for the fishes to catch a runner-runner flush and keep playing. Simple probability rules in combination with their playing style and the psychology of positive reinforcement takes care of that for the casinos.
Players that play virtually any hand, and call bets to the river, WILL win a percentage of the time, with very "improbable" hands. If that feels so ridiculous and unlikely to you that the only explanation is rigged software, you are not as skilled at poker as you think you are. You cannot apply your logic and statistical view of the game to how everyone else is playing.
The simple fact that they do hit a hand every now and then serves as feedback to their brain that they were doing the right thing calling all those bets, and they will keep doing it until they run out of money. This is a good thing that the skilled player can take advantage of, and w... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: homesar at May 29, 2005, 5:46 am | | Topic: is it me or when you are whoring bonuses in pp you get bad.. Forum: Bonus Whores | kleptodathief wrote: so ur saying online sites r not a bit skewed so they take in more rake??? r ur out of ur fucking mind(if u have 1) if u don't think so...they want fishes to win those runner runners so they keep playing...
The thing is that it wouldn't be a very rational thing to do. Think about it - a whole lot of players have the knowledge as well as the software resources needed to reveal the rigg. If someone did a test and found out it was rigged it would be a disaster for the company. Add to that the other costs of keeping it secret. This would definitely be -EV for the poker site.
Since so many people waste time in trying to convince others about their rigg hypothesis - how come nobody ever do a real statistical test to prove that they are right? My guess is that they lack the understanding of statistical method. And that is probably also the reason they believed it was rigged in the first place - since they think that they would be able to observe a rigg like this wit... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: kleptodathief at May 29, 2005, 5:33 am | | Topic: is it me or when you are whoring bonuses in pp you get bad.. Forum: Bonus Whores | so ur saying online sites r not a bit skewed so they take in more rake??? r ur out of ur fucking mind(if u have 1) if u don't think so...they want fishes to win those runner runners so they keep playing...i HAVE NO complaints bout rigged software i just take like like a man...long term it dusn't effect me...mite get me on tilt couple of buyins tho if im steaming pissed mad
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| Posted by: homesar at May 29, 2005, 5:32 am | | Topic: is it me or when you are whoring bonuses in pp you get bad.. Forum: Bonus Whores | hammer2457 wrote:
Rigged? No. Set up for action/rake/moving the money around so the fish stick around? Yes.
Doing that would be utterly stupid. It wouldn't be very hard for someone with just a little knowledge about statistics to reveal a scam like that. In fact, i'm pretty that I could prove that PP is not rigged with close to 100% accuracy - but since noone is paying me for it I would have terrible EV. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Jim Morrison at May 29, 2005, 12:42 am | | Topic: is it me or when you are whoring bonuses in pp you get bad.. Forum: Bonus Whores | hammer2457 wrote: NO doubt in my mind party poker is set up. If you flop 2 pair you're gonna lose 90% of the time. And don't let it go to the river if you make your habd at the flop or turn. The nuts can and do lose at the river. The board pairs at that site more than any other site I've played on and I play at several. Overall I make money there but the swings are incredible.
Just a little tidbit about how the hands are set up -- tonight I have QJ and limp in - flop s QJx. I'm all in. Guy with JT calls - turn A river K.
This is not the exception - it is the RULE at party and the exception at other sites. It's not a conincidence that so many players notice this.
Rigged? No. Set up for action/rake/moving the money around so the fish stick around? Yes.
Another moron. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: hammer2457 at May 29, 2005, 12:37 am | | Topic: is it me or when you are whoring bonuses in pp you get bad.. Forum: Bonus Whores | NO doubt in my mind party poker is set up. If you flop 2 pair you're gonna lose 90% of the time. And don't let it go to the river if you make your habd at the flop or turn. The nuts can and do lose at the river. The board pairs at that site more than any other site I've played on and I play at several. Overall I make money there but the swings are incredible.
Just a little tidbit about how the hands are set up -- tonight I have QJ and limp in - flop s QJx. I'm all in. Guy with JT calls - turn A river K.
This is not the exception - it is the RULE at party and the exception at other sites. It's not a conincidence that so many players notice this.
Rigged? No. Set up for action/rake/moving the money around so the fish stick around? Yes. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: kleptodathief at May 28, 2005, 12:52 pm | | Topic: is it me or when you are whoring bonuses in pp you get bad.. Forum: Bonus Whores | im not sayin its rigged big time, just a little skewed to get setup hands in like aa vs kk and rags flop or ak vs aq and ace flops..that shit...im NOT compaining thats its rigged u dumass im just saying its rigged....hell when its juiced up fishes still lose to good players...key is when will the fish rate drop in online poker as it bcomes less trendy or popular....gravy train has got to end some time...can't type more
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| Posted by: Rah at May 28, 2005, 12:41 pm | | Topic: is it me or when you are whoring bonuses in pp you get bad.. Forum: Bonus Whores | I think it's funny how people who complain about tables being too loose are the same ones who think it's rigged.
There are tons of players on 2+2 playing good and making just as much money as they should, with HUGE databases. I guess they have found a way to avoid rigged hands?
As people have said, PP would never risk their whole multimillion business to gain a 25% profit. It's just stupid, and if someone doesn't understand that, I guess it's pretty dumb discussing it with him.
However, I know that pointing these things out doesn't matter. There will always be idiots who screams RIGGED after losing two hands in a row. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: 1111 at May 28, 2005, 1:07 am | | Topic: is it me or when you are whoring bonuses in pp you get bad.. Forum: Bonus Whores | IceboxCharlie wrote: one or two idiots,even three at ur table and yea i'll agree and those are the tables i look for. BUT not when there's 9 of them.the odds are one of them will get lucky against u. ur out numbered plain and simple.when 9 out of 10 people at a table are seeing the flop your odds of winning go way down. it doesnt matter what ur starting cards are.u can go all in preflop and if some fool doesnt call u,all u win is blinds.at the end of the nite blinds wont make up for the good hands u had that were suked out on.anyway since this is supposed to be a PP thread and luck at PP.mine absolutely suks.had a 100 sign up bonus,got out with 21 bucks.reload 200 bucks got out with 130.its either mostly just no frigging cards hand after hand or a good hand that won't fill or if it does won't hold up.i've cleared bonus's at about 15 other places now and either gotten 90% of it or posted a profit.
PP is rigged. Didn't you hear? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: IceboxCharlie at May 27, 2005, 10:30 pm | | Topic: is it me or when you are whoring bonuses in pp you get bad.. Forum: Bonus Whores | | one or two idiots,even three at ur table and yea i'll agree and those are the tables i look for. BUT not when there's 9 of them.the odds are one of them will get lucky against u. ur out numbered plain and simple.when 9 out of 10 people at a table are seeing the flop your odds of winning go way down. it doesnt matter what ur starting cards are.u can go all in preflop and if some fool doesnt call u,all u win is blinds.at the end of the nite blinds wont make up for the good hands u had that were suked out on.anyway since this is supposed to be a PP thread and luck at PP.mine absolutely suks.had a 100 sign up bonus,got out with 21 bucks.reload 200 bucks got out with 130.its either mostly just no frigging cards hand after hand or a good hand that won't fill or if it does won't hold up.i've cleared bonus's at about 15 other places now and either gotten 90% of it or posted a profit. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: 1111 at May 27, 2005, 7:41 pm | | Topic: is it me or when you are whoring bonuses in pp you get bad.. Forum: Bonus Whores | IceboxCharlie wrote: i agree with that completely because i've already said it here.U can't beat an entire table of idiots because the odds are someone will draw out on ya.The only thing u can do is move around and find a better table.
This is wrong. In games like this you win fewer pots but the ones you win will be much larger. Your winrate should be very high in the game you describe. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: jtmorgan at May 27, 2005, 3:52 pm | | Topic: is it me or when you are whoring bonuses in pp you get bad.. Forum: Bonus Whores | This is my first post here so be patient with me as this will probably become more long-winded than it needs to be. I have been playing online poker for around 1 year and playing in b&m casinos for around 2 years.
Party Poker and it's skins have more fish than most of the large poker sites because of this it acts more like my B&M casino in the fact that people will call down with almost any starting hand. If they hit any part of the flop (inside straight, backdoor flush, bottom pair........) they will call you down. With about half the people at the table hitting something on the flop, If you are ahead after the flop with Top pair Good Kicker or something similar you then have to dodge everyones two pair, straights, and flushes. Because of this you usually would have to improve your hand on the turn or river in order to make your hand stand up. So even if you are ahead after the flop and you think "I should win this hand because I have the best hand now." The players making these ba... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: chachcox at May 27, 2005, 9:32 am | | Topic: is it me or when you are whoring bonuses in pp you get bad.. Forum: Bonus Whores | I second that Klepto is a fucking idiot. If it is setup in a way to maximize rake, then why dont we see pocket pairs every hand? We dont ... All you morons out there who are saying it is rigged, do yourself a favor and read 'Small Stakes Hold Em', by Slansky ... And stop playing your k,T and 7,3 ... You will lose in the long run ... I only give advice because I know the moron(s) who agreed on/posted this topic, will not listen to any advice, and it is just to keep showing how fucking stupid you people are, and I will keep beating you.
If online poker is rigged, then EVERY site I play at must really like me for some reson. I get pocket pairs at least 99 % of the time. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Jim Morrison at May 27, 2005, 9:01 am | | Topic: is it me or when you are whoring bonuses in pp you get bad.. Forum: Bonus Whores | kleptodathief wrote: if u say its not juiced up ur dum or in denial... tons of setup hands of aa vs kk to get max rake....flopped quads vs FHs and shit... the peeps who created the software bla bla bla...i mean i've had my share of bad beats and setup hands but if good player in the long run u make money off fishes..but to say its online poker is not rigged a bit wud b foolish...
So why would you play online if you are convinced it is rigged? I know you are a fucking idiot but why risk your money on something that is not legit? Do you even stop for a second to consider how much money they make WITHOUT "juiced" hands? You really think it's worth risking their entire business for a little bit more? Get a clue. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: kleptodathief at May 27, 2005, 7:28 am | | Topic: is it me or when you are whoring bonuses in pp you get bad.. Forum: Bonus Whores | if u say its not juiced up ur dum or in denial... tons of setup hands of aa vs kk to get max rake....flopped quads vs FHs and shit... the peeps who created the software bla bla bla...i mean i've had my share of bad beats and setup hands but if good player in the long run u make money off fishes..but to say its online poker is not rigged a bit wud b foolish...
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| Posted by: Valhalla1 at May 27, 2005, 5:10 am | | Topic: is it me or when you are whoring bonuses in pp you get bad.. Forum: Bonus Whores | I'll tell ya whats rigged - Bodog guranteed tournaments
so many times... right before the breaks a ton of people get knocked out, short stacks get dealt quality hands and move in with them and get outdrawn by bigger stacks, speed the tourney along
gurnateed final table earlier this week, I had JTs vs TT, flopped a jack and 4-flush, guy is drawing to the 1 T left in the deck and hits it on the river.
guranteed final table yesterday, KTs vs K9o, hit 10 on flop. he bluffs all in, I call. guy must get runner runner 9's to beat me. well guess what comes
seriously though, I know its not rigged... I used to think they had setup hands designed to knock people out of tournies, and the randomness was simply in what seat got dealt which pre-setup hand, not dealing truely random cards to each seat | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Natedog at May 26, 2005, 11:24 pm | | Topic: is it me or when you are whoring bonuses in pp you get bad.. Forum: Bonus Whores | Baseballer02 wrote: weapon007 wrote: lol, man i thought it was just me that wanna smash the computer. worst part is we cant quit half way in the bonus or we get nothing lol
I'm playing it through, just to gain back a little ground. So far through 670 raked hands cleared tonight my best hand is a two pair.
Well you tried a blind steal against me with A8o, and called down UI | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Loke at May 26, 2005, 10:46 pm | | Topic: is it me or when you are whoring bonuses in pp you get bad.. Forum: Bonus Whores | | I have started off poorly with this one myself. Down maybe $40 after only 100 raked hands playing $2/4, which I finally moved up to from $1/2. Tonight I hit a straight flush against a straight and an Ace high flush for a $109 pot. One good hand and I'm back on the positive side. I actually felt bad for the Ace high flush after I finished my ceremonial Straight Flush Dance. But I'm over it now. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: WHOSHOTJR? at May 26, 2005, 9:13 pm | | Topic: is it me or when you are whoring bonuses in pp you get bad.. Forum: Bonus Whores | I just finished the may bonus and will be starting the pokeracenow. You guys are correct party is rigged. I have a deal with eswar though and he programmed it so that i win and he and i split my winnings. I finished my 700 hands $290 plus the $100 bonus. All I had to do is press buttons. But your right it must suck for those of you with out the dothead treaty,
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| Posted by: Sid 6.7 at May 26, 2005, 7:40 pm | | Topic: is it me or when you are whoring bonuses in pp you get bad.. Forum: Bonus Whores | Well, I would like to thank everyone who provided results and insight to the Party Poker "swarm of fishes" discussion.
Personally I will cool out a little expect a little less than bonus plus winnings over there, and again review my extensive mountain of pokertracker-ed Party results.
Who knows maybe I am missing the little known fact of Party Poker that 7-3 offsuit under the gun is the perfect 3bet-coldcalled trap for the silly players who raised with wired Aces, lol | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Jim Morrison at May 26, 2005, 5:07 pm | | Topic: is it me or when you are whoring bonuses in pp you get bad.. Forum: Bonus Whores | Alphaunit1 wrote: I think a lot of people are really missing the realities of playing poker online in this thread. Reality is:
- You do see a lot more hands per hour than a live game - I play 4 tables at once, and I should (statistically) see pocket Aces, Kings, Queens, Jacks, etc. at least once every hour. (Playing ~220 hands/hr, taking into account table shifting, etc)
- Players at Party are far more fishy than other sites. You have to anticipate significantly larger variance there than elsewhere, since the really bad players will often call you down with absolute crap, not knowing they don't have the odds to call. Hence, you get crazy up and down sessions. The difference between a 35% VP$IP player and a 60% VP$IP player (both loose) is quite significant post-flop when it comes to putting them on a hand.
- In relation to the above, I think quite a few players here that are self-proclaimed winners at other sites that can't win at Party are making a big mistake... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Alphaunit1 at May 26, 2005, 4:22 pm | | Topic: is it me or when you are whoring bonuses in pp you get bad.. Forum: Bonus Whores | I think a lot of people are really missing the realities of playing poker online in this thread. Reality is:
- You do see a lot more hands per hour than a live game - I play 4 tables at once, and I should (statistically) see pocket Aces, Kings, Queens, Jacks, etc. at least once every hour. (Playing ~220 hands/hr, taking into account table shifting, etc)
- Players at Party are far more fishy than other sites. You have to anticipate significantly larger variance there than elsewhere, since the really bad players will often call you down with absolute crap, not knowing they don't have the odds to call. Hence, you get crazy up and down sessions. The difference between a 35% VP$IP player and a 60% VP$IP player (both loose) is quite significant post-flop when it comes to putting them on a hand.
- In relation to the above, I think quite a few players here that are self-proclaimed winners at other sites that can't win at Party are making a big mistake: They aren't adapting the... | | Read Entire Entry |
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