| Posted by: phatlad at September 5, 2005, 4:48 am | | Topic: Party new rake Forum: Bonus Whores | sigmajin wrote: phatlad wrote: sigmajin wrote: in addition to changing the rake requirements, party (but not any of its skins) seems to have introduced micro-limit tables available only to people who have opened their account in the past 45 days or something (under the beginners tab)
Out of curiosity, I left a party account open all day to see what the raked hand percent was... over 60% on the $5 NL tables, with -- get this -- .02 and .04 blinds.
Especially if youve got alot of gnomes opening accounts too, it almost seems like it would be worthwhile to fold every hand to play out the bonus for risk free money (esp if youre like me and at a computer a lot but not able to fully concentrate enough to play poker, or if you dont have much poker experience) Even after the price of all the folds, you'd be keeping ninety-five cents on every dollar of bonus on a 5X bonus and .9 cents on every dollar on a 10X bonus.
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| Posted by: sigmajin at September 5, 2005, 4:28 am | | Topic: Party new rake Forum: Bonus Whores | phatlad wrote: sigmajin wrote: in addition to changing the rake requirements, party (but not any of its skins) seems to have introduced micro-limit tables available only to people who have opened their account in the past 45 days or something (under the beginners tab)
Out of curiosity, I left a party account open all day to see what the raked hand percent was... over 60% on the $5 NL tables, with -- get this -- .02 and .04 blinds.
Especially if youve got alot of gnomes opening accounts too, it almost seems like it would be worthwhile to fold every hand to play out the bonus for risk free money (esp if youre like me and at a computer a lot but not able to fully concentrate enough to play poker, or if you dont have much poker experience) Even after the price of all the folds, you'd be keeping ninety-five cents on every dollar of bonus on a 5X bonus and .9 cents on every dollar on a 10X bonus.
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| Posted by: phatlad at September 5, 2005, 3:44 am | | Topic: Party new rake Forum: Bonus Whores | sigmajin wrote: in addition to changing the rake requirements, party (but not any of its skins) seems to have introduced micro-limit tables available only to people who have opened their account in the past 45 days or something (under the beginners tab)
Out of curiosity, I left a party account open all day to see what the raked hand percent was... over 60% on the $5 NL tables, with -- get this -- .02 and .04 blinds.
Especially if youve got alot of gnomes opening accounts too, it almost seems like it would be worthwhile to fold every hand to play out the bonus for risk free money (esp if youre like me and at a computer a lot but not able to fully concentrate enough to play poker, or if you dont have much poker experience) Even after the price of all the folds, you'd be keeping ninety-five cents on every dollar of bonus on a 5X bonus and .9 cents on every dollar on a 10X bonus.
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| Posted by: sigmajin at September 5, 2005, 3:10 am | | Topic: Party new rake Forum: Bonus Whores | in addition to changing the rake requirements, party (but not any of its skins) seems to have introduced micro-limit tables available only to people who have opened their account in the past 45 days or something (under the beginners tab)
Out of curiosity, I left a party account open all day to see what the raked hand percent was... over 60% on the $5 NL tables, with -- get this -- .02 and .04 blinds.
Especially if youve got alot of gnomes opening accounts too, it almost seems like it would be worthwhile to fold every hand to play out the bonus for risk free money (esp if youre like me and at a computer a lot but not able to fully concentrate enough to play poker, or if you dont have much poker experience) Even after the price of all the folds, you'd be keeping ninety-five cents on every dollar of bonus on a 5X bonus and .9 cents on every dollar on a 10X bonus. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: andrew26 at September 4, 2005, 5:17 pm | | Topic: Party new rake Forum: Bonus Whores | Wellington wrote: Wellington wrote: Hmmm, I don't think anything has changed for the raked hands (or maybe it has changed back). It still takes a $2 pot in NL. This was the case on empire. I would love to be proved wrong.
Maybe I need to put the bong down. I just checked again and it looks like any rake is counted, so a minimum $1 pot in NL.
The interesting thing is that if you are playing a 10X bonus (like the current Empire reload) and they rake $.05, you are earning $.10 in bonus for that hand.
Even better, if you are playing a 7X reload, you are getting back $.1428 per raked hand.
This has to be the best bonus clearing method in all of whoredom.
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| Posted by: Wellington at September 4, 2005, 4:55 pm | | Topic: Party new rake Forum: Bonus Whores | Wellington wrote: Hmmm, I don't think anything has changed for the raked hands (or maybe it has changed back). It still takes a $2 pot in NL. This was the case on empire. I would love to be proved wrong.
Maybe I need to put the bong down. I just checked again and it looks like any rake is counted, so a minimum $1 pot in NL. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Wolfman at September 4, 2005, 4:35 pm | | Topic: Party new rake Forum: Bonus Whores | On the $50NL tables today I'm getting a 78% raked hand rate.
Now that's bonus whoring!! | | Static Link |
| Posted by: andrew26 at September 4, 2005, 4:37 am | | Topic: Party new rake Forum: Bonus Whores | phatlad wrote: Significantly tighter tonight. -- or this morning if you will. Between the hours of 3:30 a.m. to 6 a.m. central time, only 305 of 496 hands raked. I've been hitting between 75-80 percent raked in this time period since the new rake went into effect, but not tonight.
Lots of people betting the pot on the button with several limpers and the limpers all folding, which is unusual from my experience. Finished up $150 though, so I'm not complaining.
Probably due to the whore influx for the Empire turbo bonus.
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| Posted by: phatlad at September 4, 2005, 4:16 am | | Topic: Party new rake Forum: Bonus Whores | Significantly tighter tonight. -- or this morning if you will. Between the hours of 3:30 a.m. to 6 a.m. central time, only 305 of 496 hands raked. I've been hitting between 75-80 percent raked in this time period since the new rake went into effect, but not tonight.
Lots of people betting the pot on the button with several limpers and the limpers all folding, which is unusual from my experience. Finished up $150 though, so I'm not complaining. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Wolfman at September 3, 2005, 11:49 pm | | Topic: Party new rake Forum: Bonus Whores | I'm getting 66% on the $25 tables, not too much higher then before. The no-flop no drop accounts for more hands than I credited.
I'll try the $50 next and see if the percentage is any higher. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Wellington at September 3, 2005, 10:50 pm | | Topic: Party new rake Forum: Bonus Whores | | Hmmm, I don't think anything has changed for the raked hands (or maybe it has changed back). It still takes a $2 pot in NL. This was the case on empire. I would love to be proved wrong. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: andrew26 at September 3, 2005, 5:51 am | | Topic: Party new rake Forum: Bonus Whores | I cleared the Party last night at the $25 NL, and I would estimate that 80% of hands dealt were raked.
This has got me thinking about the multi 20X reloads... at $25 NL it is doable with minimal bankroll risk.
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| Posted by: hammer2457 at September 2, 2005, 10:35 pm | | Topic: Party new rake Forum: Bonus Whores | | Empire is counting a 5c rake toward the bonus I just cleared there. Don't know about Multi Poker. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Wolfman at September 2, 2005, 9:30 am | | Topic: Party new rake Forum: Bonus Whores | I bounced around the skins last night just to take a look.
The new rake structure applies to all of them. I can't say for sure that they will all count the nickel raked hands as raked, but party does so it makes sense that they would also. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: LottaFagina at September 2, 2005, 4:51 am | | Topic: Party new rake Forum: Bonus Whores | Can anybody confirm if the new rake structure applies to all Party skins? That's going to make a LOT of difference in the various Multipoker Madness, Empire PlaySep, etc bonuses currently being offered in the near term.
Also going to require fiddling with the bonus grid... | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Wolfman at September 1, 2005, 8:02 pm | | Topic: Party new rake Forum: Bonus Whores | Quote: I'm thinking this is going to mean nearly 100% rake rate on the $50NL tables
Yep, I was right except for the no-flop no drop. But every hand that sees a flop is being raked now. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: jojothekid at September 1, 2005, 7:58 pm | | Topic: Party new rake Forum: Bonus Whores | | It's a lot different for us 25NL6max guys, a 7x usually takes me 7 hours, done in less than 4 hours today. from $14/hr to about $27/hr that is a slight difference, they can have all the damn nickels they want lol. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: tarheel1 at September 1, 2005, 6:17 pm | | Topic: Party new rake Forum: Bonus Whores | LottaFagina wrote: tarheel1 wrote: okay I think we have a misunderstanding here.
Party now rakes a pot at $1 instead of $2 but for a raked hand to count as a raked hand for a bonus it still must reach $5.00 ot a $.25 rake.
Nope, you're confused. Any rake at all, even $.05, counts towards your bonus. At least it is for my REALCHANCE which I'm knocking down right now on NL25...
Im no longer confused
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| Posted by: LottaFagina at September 1, 2005, 6:09 pm | | Topic: Party new rake Forum: Bonus Whores | tarheel1 wrote: okay I think we have a misunderstanding here.
Party now rakes a pot at $1 instead of $2 but for a raked hand to count as a raked hand for a bonus it still must reach $5.00 ot a $.25 rake.
Nope, you're confused. Any rake at all, even $.05, counts towards your bonus. At least it is for my REALCHANCE which I'm knocking down right now on NL25... | | Static Link |
| Posted by: BadBeatBill at September 1, 2005, 5:58 pm | | Topic: Party new rake Forum: Bonus Whores | tarheel1 wrote: okay I think we have a misunderstanding here.
Party now rakes a pot at $1 instead of $2 but for a raked hand to count as a raked hand for a bonus it still must reach $5.00 ot a $.25 rake.
old party no rake was taken until the pot reached $2 when a $.10 rake was taken. now when the pot reaches $1 a $.05 rake is taken
am I correct or am I the confused one?
In limit it's gotta be $5, but those aren't raked until then anyways. My bonus status shows all the 5c pots as being raked.....
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| Posted by: tarheel1 at September 1, 2005, 5:54 pm | | Topic: Party new rake Forum: Bonus Whores | okay I think we have a misunderstanding here.
Party now rakes a pot at $1 instead of $2 but for a raked hand to count as a raked hand for a bonus it still must reach $5.00 ot a $.25 rake.
old party no rake was taken until the pot reached $2 when a $.10 rake was taken. now when the pot reaches $1 a $.05 rake is taken
am I correct or am I the confused one?
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| Posted by: chachcox at September 1, 2005, 5:32 pm | | Topic: Party new rake Forum: Bonus Whores | ***** Hand History for Game 2636771497 *****
$25 NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, September 01, 20:22:05 EDT 2005
Table Table 37402 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: tuffluck44 ( $26 )
Seat 3: jarhead95 ( $38.65 )
Seat 6: sara1212dog ( $22.75 )
Seat 7: chachcox ( $35.75 )
Seat 9: cujo_fan ( $18.45 )
Seat 10: minde1976 ( $29.75 )
Seat 4: poloplayerrl ( $3.80 )
Seat 1: rob3156 ( $14.80 )
Seat 5: MikeeMiracle ( $28.80 )
Seat 8: Hahamood ( $24.75 )
Hahamood posts small blind [$0.10].
cujo_fan posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to chachcox [ 8d 8h ]
minde1976 folds.
rob3156 raises [$2].
tuffluck44 folds.
jarhead95 folds.
poloplayerrl folds.
MikeeMiracle folds.
sara1212dog folds.
chachcox calls [$2].
Hahamood folds.
cujo_fan calls [$1.75].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8c, 4c, Ad ]
cujo_fan checks.
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| Posted by: Wolfman at September 1, 2005, 5:16 pm | | Topic: Party new rake Forum: Bonus Whores | I'm thinking this is going to mean nearly 100% rake rate on the $50NL tables, no? 1 limper pushes it over a dollar.
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| Posted by: chachcox at September 1, 2005, 5:06 pm | | Topic: Party new rake Forum: Bonus Whores | The 25 NL tables are worthless now ... Theres been 2 +10 $ pots in a half hour ... Booo.
Its like playing .10/25 LH. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Johnny Empire at September 1, 2005, 4:33 pm | | Topic: Party new rake Forum: Bonus Whores | Heh, we like a little rake over no rake. Poker Room gave us "way too much rake", which no one liked.
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| Posted by: blosky2001 at September 1, 2005, 2:48 pm | | Topic: Party new rake Forum: Bonus Whores | | Does this go in effect for Empire this weekend to make that bonus look more attractive? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: jojothekid at September 1, 2005, 2:39 pm | | Topic: Party new rake Forum: Bonus Whores | | This is great, I play the 25NL6max games and play 3 tables I ripped my 700 hands in less than 3 hours for my hundo. The 6 max is ideal because they all limp and you get near or over 100 hands/hr. Hooray BEER. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: kdogg007 at September 1, 2005, 1:56 pm | | Topic: Party new rake Forum: Bonus Whores | | This is fantastic news, I was getting about 66% raked at NL50, if this bumps it up to 75-80% then great! | | Static Link |
| Posted by: TheJourneyman at September 1, 2005, 1:55 pm | | Topic: Party new rake Forum: Bonus Whores | phatlad wrote: That was when 25PL was .25/.5 blinds, right? Almost every damned hand was raked then.
And CHE, I suggest you come slumming to the 25PL tables. Decent table selection. My BB/100 is 22. Of course it still sucks when your AA gets cracked by 62 s00ted on a rainbow flop and catching runner runner flush. But damn, I hardly play limit at Party anymore.
I'll definately give it a try if they are raking at a $1 and it counts towards bonus. I played the $25 till they changed the blinds then moved up and the play was just as bad - as I have seen with the $100PL tables too but there just aren't many going when I am playing. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: phatlad at September 1, 2005, 1:08 pm | | Topic: Party new rake Forum: Bonus Whores | That was when 25PL was .25/.5 blinds, right? Almost every damned hand was raked then.
And CHE, I suggest you come slumming to the 25PL tables. Decent table selection. My BB/100 is 22. Of course it still sucks when your AA gets cracked by 62 s00ted on a rainbow flop and catching runner runner flush. But damn, I hardly play limit at Party anymore. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: TheJourneyman at September 1, 2005, 12:46 pm | | Topic: Party new rake Forum: Bonus Whores | pilgrimshoes wrote: before they changed it last time, i used to get >85% raked on the 25pl and 50pl
that was the way to go... hopefully it gets back close to those numbers again
CHE should be able to back me up on this, around jan-mar this year.
Yep I did too and you had plenty of tables to choose from - now you are lucky if there are 2 50PL games going. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: pilgrimshoes at September 1, 2005, 12:43 pm | | Topic: Party new rake Forum: Bonus Whores | before they changed it last time, i used to get >85% raked on the 25pl and 50pl
that was the way to go... hopefully it gets back close to those numbers again
CHE should be able to back me up on this, around jan-mar this year.
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| Posted by: phatlad at September 1, 2005, 12:42 pm | | Topic: Party new rake Forum: Bonus Whores | I put this in the bonus discussion, but zo or jek can move it to sites if necessary.
Party is now raking PL and NL games at $1 as opposed to $2. I believe this just went into effect today.
Last month, in 10,335 PL25 hands on Party and skins, 3,900 were not raked at all. I'm going to lowball and estimate that 1/3 of those would've been raked under this new rake structure, given that there's usually 4 or 5 limpers and the first pot-sized bet wins the pot a lot of the time in PL.
With these lowball estimates, instead of 64% of hands being raked and counting toward bonuses, 75% of hands are raked and counting bonuses.
This makes unattractive bonuses like Empire's and *gulp* multi's more attractive for the low-limit whore. | | Static Link |
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