| Posted by: Jasminebed at May 22, 2008, 4:36 pm | | Topic: SAD NEWS FROM WASHINGTON Forum: Casino Meister | | When quoting me, I'd also appreciate the quote being credited. CM's quoting function also allows users to view the whole post if someone wants to read further. Quote: Originally Posted by MJackson From everything I know about these types of draconian moralist laws the above statment seems very astute. The conspiracy drug laws, RICO, even tax evasion laws have all been used for exactly the purpose this poster was talking about. The cops hit someone up with a charge that potentially carries 20 or 30 years in prison then say, "hey, you don't really want to go to jail do you?. And there ain't no garuntee and jury isn't going to send you there so why don't you do the smart thing and work with us." Then 3 bank accounts, a mercedes, a house and 500 hours of community service later, the accused are freed and go back to their lives trying to dodge bad laws meant to give police the maximum power over anyone they choose to indict. Nice expansion on the point I was trying to make MJ. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: MJackson at May 22, 2008, 9:04 am | | Topic: SAD NEWS FROM WASHINGTON Forum: Casino Meister | | Quote: Have any arrests been made under these laws? Offering players a "plea bargain" of a fine and probation might further line the state coffers. From everything I know about these types of draconian moralist laws the above statment seems very astute. The conspiracy drug laws, RICO, even tax evasion laws have all been used for exactly the purpose this poster was talking about. The cops hit someone up with a charge that potentially carries 20 or 30 years in prison then say, "hey, you don't really want to go to jail do you?. And there ain't no garuntee and jury isn't going to send you there so why don't you do the smart thing and work with us." Then 3 bank accounts, a mercedes, a house and 500 hours of community service later, the accused are freed and go back to their lives trying to dodge bad laws meant to give police the maximum power over anyone they choose to indict. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: bryand at May 21, 2008, 11:06 pm | | Topic: SAD NEWS FROM WASHINGTON Forum: Casino Meister | | Quote: Originally Posted by me_and_ed Not so much as it used to be, even our apothetic government is sick of US policy on many stands (this is not intended to start a debate or piss off US government supporters) . An oxymoron these days | | Static Link |
| Posted by: me_and_ed at May 17, 2008, 7:32 pm | | Topic: SAD NEWS FROM WASHINGTON Forum: Casino Meister | | Quote: Originally Posted by Jasminebed I live in Canada, so I have not followed all the US gambling legislation closely, but where the US goes, we usually follow. Not so much as it used to be, even our apothetic government is sick of US policy on many stands (this is not intended to start a debate or piss off US government supporters) . | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Jasminebed at May 17, 2008, 2:31 pm | | Topic: SAD NEWS FROM WASHINGTON Forum: Casino Meister | | Have any arrests been made under these laws? Offering players a "plea bargain" of a fine and probation might further line the state coffers. Maybe some martyrs could turn themselves in to police and see what happens. I live in Canada, so I have not followed all the US gambling legislation closely, but where the US goes, we usually follow. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: vinylweatherman at May 17, 2008, 10:48 am | | Topic: SAD NEWS FROM WASHINGTON Forum: Casino Meister | | Perhaps THEY are playing "poker" with online players. They can't get the casinos, but they CAN scare away their customers. The test will come when they attempt to jail online players. There are laws here in the UK which impose seemingly disproportionate penalties, but judges do not impose them in the vast majority of cases (as well as this, our prisons are too full ) One thing polititians fear the most is losing their jobs (they will say, and do, whatever they feel it takes to keep them). If they began to jail online players, it might cause a stink in the media, with comparisons made with state sponsored monopoly gambling, and perhaps even the light or non-existent penalties imposed on the polititians for their own immoral conduct while in public office. I would suspect that those not into online gambling have little idea about this draconian law, but if they did, it could well put them off the legalised forms of online gambling that states might which to add to their monopolies. EU state monopolie... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: lots0 at May 16, 2008, 6:55 pm | | Topic: SAD NEWS FROM WASHINGTON Forum: Casino Meister | | Wht is soo funny is that the government is saying that they don't "intend" to put players in prison for 15 to 20 years for playing poker, that the law was designed to go after the online casinos. First... Washington state can't go after the online casinos because they are ALL out of their jurisdiction, so Washington state can't touch them. Second... Why in the name of sanity would the government make a law they don't "intend" to enforce? Third..... In a year or two, there will be new prosecutors that may well decide to start serious enforcement of this law and start filling up their state prisons with poker players. I am not in any way shape or form a neo-conservative, but I do like what these guys are saying... Leave Us Alone | | Static Link |
| Posted by: GaryWatson at May 16, 2008, 6:20 pm | | Topic: SAD NEWS FROM WASHINGTON Forum: Casino Meister | | So frustrating. I dont think the courtroom will do much good. The result was determined before the evidence was given. Public opinion seems the only way to pressure for a turnaround | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Casinomeister at May 16, 2008, 4:09 pm | | Topic: SAD NEWS FROM WASHINGTON Forum: Casino Meister | | SAD NEWS FROM WASHINGTON Lee Roussos challenge to anti-online gambling law rejected Hopes that the state of Washington may be dissuaded from its policy of imposing excessive Felony C punishments on any of its citizens caught gambling online faded this week with the failure of lawyer Lee Roussos's challenge to the law in a King County Court (see previous InfoPowa reports) While the judge ruled that Rousso had legal standing to bring the suit forward, something he fought 10 months for, she said his challenge did not satisfy the narrow standard to invalidate the law. But the gutsy lawyer and local Poker Players Alliance director may make one more attempt to bring some sense to the issue, hinting at further action when he told reporters from the Seattle Post that the issue will ultimately be decided by the US Supreme Court. The punitive measures attached to the anti-online gambling law by Washington state legislators equate to those reserved for child molesters and repeat drunk driving offenders, and have been w... | | Read Entire Entry |
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