| Posted by: sabrina43 at May 10, 2008, 5:25 pm | | Topic: Anyone Know What Happened To Usafreedom Casino Forum: Winner Online | | lb you really tried to help but that place you suggested i could not activate membership or something, lets just give up because by now, they could be a whole new casino under different names. We should look that up, to see what has been recently developed or not. Regardless, this was the strangest encountered i have ever witnessed. I wish i could just pack up and leave my troubles behind. Regards sabrina | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Larrybob at May 7, 2008, 8:00 am | | Topic: Anyone Know What Happened To Usafreedom Casino Forum: Winner Online | | Quote: Originally Posted by sabrina43 lb i found out nothing at all. And i dont know how to enable that message thing but if you want to send me some info you can email at xxx@xxx AND I will get it and thanks forall you help. I mean it. As this board isn't involved in dispute resolution I don't see any problem posting this, but if Moderator disagrees he can delete it.. I will email you anyway. About a week ago I sent a private message to CPA at the GIA, referring him to this thread and asking if he could help. I didn't get a response, so I think you should try yourself. I'm hoping that one of the affiliates there carried USAFreedom and might be able to help you. It's slim, but it's a chance. Please read the Arbitration section first, join the forum, and then post a brief subjective description in the Groan's and Gripes section so everyone knows about it. (there's a bit of conflicting info about whether things should be posted publicly at all, but imo this isn't a dispute as they aren't arguing whether they o... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Larrybob at April 28, 2008, 4:08 pm | | Topic: Anyone Know What Happened To Usafreedom Casino Forum: Winner Online | I don't know... I tried to call the number from my cell phone and it didn't do anything (never attempted int'l call on my cell, so it could be on my end) If you send Max a PM on that site and he doesn't reply at all, you might want to PM Casinomeister with your concern and if that doesn't work, bring it up on casinomesiter forum... at least then you'll have his attention ++++++++++++++++++++ hmm... not looking good. I found this info by the phone number and address at http://whois.domaintools.com/usafreedomcasino.com
I'm NOT saying it's the same people, but the admin and tech contact telephone and address for usafreedom is the same info as this domain that was scamming. That may mean nothing... but the timeline in the story might be a damning clue. Strange, the domain was re-registered shortly after expiring in february, and somebody (g-fed?) is still hosting the casino with the real money mode disabled. I dunno. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: sabrina43 at April 27, 2008, 2:00 pm | | Topic: Anyone Know What Happened To Usafreedom Casino Forum: Winner Online | | lb Max has not replied back to me and i wrote him twice. That cell number is an australia exchange . What do you think about th at email that they wrote the girl. Should i throw the towel in all the way or take it out. thanx | | Static Link |
| Posted by: sabrina43 at April 27, 2008, 9:56 am | | Topic: Anyone Know What Happened To Usafreedom Casino Forum: Winner Online | | LB i have send two emails personally to max and have not been responded to. What do you think about that girls email from Kane with that phone number. I know 61 is the prefix to australia, but why would he actually give her a real number. Do you think he is telling the truth. If he is i will be more understanding. What to do now? I was prepared to throw the towel, but should i take the towel out again. ??? thanx lb | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Larrybob at April 27, 2008, 9:50 am | | Topic: Anyone Know What Happened To Usafreedom Casino Forum: Winner Online | | The posted number is invalid - +61 could be Australia, Cocos-Keeling, or Christmas Islands.. but the following numbers don't corelate. Dropping the leading 0 after *61 for out of country calls, we have a possible cell/mobile number... but I'm not able to connect to it from my cell. Have you exhausted your avenues with Max? Has he responded at all? As you have P'd a B I don't want to get 'creative' until he has the matter resolved or closed. Please let me know when that happens and I'll try to help from that point on. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: sabrina43 at April 27, 2008, 5:52 am | | Topic: Anyone Know What Happened To Usafreedom Casino Forum: Winner Online | | zmm i am afraid we are in the same bad boat, however, when did you get that email from them that you posted, recently? That is interesting because h ow did you get an email if they cannot get any or send any. I know that kane does work there but when did he become manager, (must have been when they shut us out) (lol) I have sent him a few emails via his myspace mail they started out kind and sympathetic and then towards the end, i was a bit more aggressive, nonetheless he never responded to any of them. Maybe i should go back to kind and sympathetic, i dont think so. Keep me posted. I really hate being taken for a fool by them. thanx | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Larrybob at April 24, 2008, 6:26 pm | | Topic: Anyone Know What Happened To Usafreedom Casino Forum: Winner Online | | Quote: Originally Posted by sabrina43 Well, LB no one has contacted me from casinomeister, i think i waited long enough, the point is that even though i got beat, i would have been nice for someone to at least give me some type of answer either way. Please follow up with a personal message to Max there (click on his name or avatar), if he doesn't answer in a couple of days bring it out into the forum. Be assertive, subjective and courteous and you should get results. Ignore any flack, and stick to it patiently. I don't know how they prioritize complaints, but humans over look things now and then - DON"T GIVE UP yet, you are not beaten. Please report back in the a week or so, and if you don't get any satisfaction, we can get creative. Sorry i haven't been of more help. Be not ground under the boot 1843, from Fr. récalcitrant, lit. "kicking back" (17c.-18c.), pp. of recalcitrare "to kick back," from re- "back" + L. calcitrare "to kick," from calx (gen. calcis) "... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: zmm9088 at April 24, 2008, 5:34 pm | | Topic: Anyone Know What Happened To Usafreedom Casino Forum: Winner Online | | I was hoping you might get somewhere too but i think we just have to accept they are gone, not coming back, and have taken our money! I'm also including the last email reply I received from their operations manager. It has a phone number included with it, some kind of international number, I think he was in Australia. I never tried calling it. Hi I will get this to you asap we have had a firer.we are trying to each server up and running. the accounting is still being worked on my emails have not been working either. I will let u know I have not forgotten about it. Kane Light Manager (+61) 0401499915 www.usafreedomcasino.com | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Larrybob at April 11, 2008, 3:24 pm | | Topic: Anyone Know What Happened To Usafreedom Casino Forum: Winner Online | | Quote: Originally Posted by sabrina43 Still no word from casinomeister, i guess they struck out too, whatever! I'm not sure if they have connections, but between them they should be able to connect, even if jetset has to do an investigation from the owners down. I'd suggest that you send a personal message to max there, reminding him of you PAB, and be patient. good luck. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Larrybob at March 28, 2008, 8:23 pm | | Topic: Anyone Know What Happened To Usafreedom Casino Forum: Winner Online | | We US players who choose to game at shady places are simply fecked when turds hit the wheel. I have tried to ask about usafreedom and giantpalace for a long time and no-one gave any input - good or bad. I'm now getting very trustable reports that giantpalace are arrogant, ignorant, and mess around with payouts. Not your issue, but one in the same to me - shady, underfunded opaque operations who do not always respond to queries. i don't have an affiliate connection for g-fed2 so I'll have to suggest that you contact max d at casinomeister.com and pitch a bitch (start an inquiry) His desk and his reputation (former moderator here) will give you the best chance possible to solve your problem. Be direct, concise and assertive and if it can be handled it will be. No need to post on the forum as there is nothing to warn other players about, simply complain in private. (if the casino is 'trying', and just can't communicate right now, it will be better for everyone if handled in private) Your QT problem is another i... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: zmm9088 at March 28, 2008, 8:07 pm | | Topic: Anyone Know What Happened To Usafreedom Casino Forum: Winner Online | | I contacted qt again to see if there was any news and all I got was a "canned" email saying again that they had terminated their relationship with usa freedom. I get the feeling that this just means that they know that sorry casino is gone, it isn't coming back and they are just washing their hands of it. As for legal ramifications, I dare say we have none. Most of these payment processors state that all transactions are irreversible and final. I don't plan to do any further business with qt either. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: sabrina43 at March 28, 2008, 9:57 am | | Topic: Anyone Know What Happened To Usafreedom Casino Forum: Winner Online | | You know, this Quicktender thing really bugs me insofar as they have the nerve to shut me down, i had money to be withdrawn into their account from usafreedom, they shut them down, they are all free of obligations and i am ripped off. Is there any legal ramifications? Do i have any rights at all. Because I just want them all to pay for the aggravation. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: sabrina43 at March 24, 2008, 5:30 pm | | Topic: Anyone Know What Happened To Usafreedom Casino Forum: Winner Online | | well zm, it seems that me and you both had withdrawals on the same day mine was twice your amount, and the whole server thing happened to me as well. I was on QT back and they have dropped them but that does not do us any good. I dont know if that fire story is true but it seems i got the same story as well, they said they were supposed to be up in a couple of weeks from now, it is six weeks now, i am trying not to get too aggravated because maybe they are telling the truth, maybe they are waiting for money to restore their servers, maybe a f ew of us t ook them for broke that week and they jumped ship, maybe, maybe, maybe, all i know is that it disgraceful how they treat us and we have to beg for our money, if we ever get it. Also QT has suspended my account for no known reason, and i cant get them to tell me why either, i dont trust them either. We need a miracle. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Larrybob at March 24, 2008, 10:44 am | | Topic: Anyone Know What Happened To Usafreedom Casino Forum: Winner Online | I'm glad you're keeping it in the fora. That is potentially good news.
On one hand it's understandable that there aren't more complaints as G-Fed didn't have a great US marketshare before the UIGEA - but on the other afaik every US player who tried to access any of the many many g-fed casinos was redirected to USA Freedom, offered invitations to qt, and given a no deposit bonus to play. There was a short-term but focused email campaign as well iirc.
The message boards had offers of up to $100 free at first, the wr and comps were the best to be found for US slots players, etc. etc. so you would think that they would have built a broader base of players. It could be that many people were just not comfortable with the platform because of the malware issue past, as well as a few g-feds (per g-fed) not paying bonus/advantage players; but I have a hard time wrapping my head around that as a major reason unless US players as a whole are more informed than I give them credit for. I like the games and trust t... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: sabrina43 at March 23, 2008, 8:12 pm | | Topic: Anyone Know What Happened To Usafreedom Casino Forum: Winner Online | | You are correct funmode you can play, maybe the only one owed money is me, i doubt it though. Also, Quicktender dropped them because they did not contact the players and they sent them email stating that they will consider taking them back if they follow up with players, casino wrote back say it would take a couple more weeks. QT said to advise the players. No one has advised to date. Something is really haywire. : | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Larrybob at March 23, 2008, 5:52 pm | | Topic: Anyone Know What Happened To Usafreedom Casino Forum: Winner Online | | Quote: Originally Posted by sabrina43 Been there, done that, lets call it a loss for their customers but a win to the ones like myself who have learned a good lesson for the future. Shame on them . Hurray for me. Well, good luck. One good thing, I suppose, is that we aren't seeing complaints of people who were owed money. I'm guessing the server is CGTV based as the casino is still available in funmode, but it isn't possible to log in for real play. A very quiet and strange hiatus. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Larrybob at March 18, 2008, 8:48 pm | | Topic: Anyone Know What Happened To Usafreedom Casino Forum: Winner Online | Quote: Originally Posted by sabrina43 Anyone have information at all above USAfreedom, something concrete or something that makes sense, we are all waiting patiently. I did confirm the fact that Atlanticlounge is out of business but at least they offer to pay their patrons out, whether they do or not remains to be seen. You might write to the address in my first response. I don't find anything on them on the web. You might also contact CGTV? But I'm pretty sure they'll deny any connection to a US facing casino with that software.
Not helpful, but the domain actually expired in feb. and was renewed for one year.
Igf you don't recall who your affiliate was, you might try googling usafreedom and contact an affiliate with the info on their page.
Sorry I can't help any more than that. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: sabrina43 at March 18, 2008, 9:48 am | | Topic: Anyone Know What Happened To Usafreedom Casino Forum: Winner Online | | Anyone have information at all above USAfreedom, something concrete or something that makes sense, we are all waiting patiently. I did confirm the fact that Atlanticlounge is out of business but at least they offer to pay their patrons out, whether they do or not remains to be seen. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Larrybob at March 14, 2008, 6:37 pm | | Topic: Anyone Know What Happened To Usafreedom Casino Forum: Winner Online | Keep the faith, only play with what you can stand to lose, and never take a bonus. There are 'dogs of war' to deal with the difference. If you're feeling 'lucky' play at Giant Palace. I would. If you're wanting stability, quit gambling.
But... as a US player you have inetbet, the capital/ol of the world and (random
(Rivals) per my experience for flawless in-out win/lose. Anyone wanna call me on my sh*t, I'll be back after springbreak, or not. But I will always be (how you say?) concerned. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: sabrina43 at March 14, 2008, 1:34 pm | | Topic: Anyone Know What Happened To Usafreedom Casino Forum: Winner Online | | I will say this that i cannot believe all the stories i read about this casino and that casino, and names of what i thought reputable. It seems to me that none of them are any good and the only real way to win and get money or lose and give money is vegas, atlantic city, etc. At least you know the real deal when you go to those places. I have become immune to the online world of gambling and believe me it will be a cold day you know where before i trust them again. Can you blame me. Its not the money i lost it is the principle. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Larrybob at March 13, 2008, 5:08 pm | | Topic: Anyone Know What Happened To Usafreedom Casino Forum: Winner Online | Lets hope they are just having a series of unfortunate events, lol but similar things have happened with casinos that kind of 'drop off' for awhile, come back on, then close shop. This one comes to mind, different scenario, but end result is bad: Quote: To all the interested parties: We decide to finish operations on March 31, 2008
Please play your balance or ask for reimburse your balance. Regards,
ATLANTIC LOUNGE Bellee me! I want to play g-fed too and I truly hope it is a glitch they can overcome, pay the players owed, and usafreedom puts themselves in a solid position... it's going to be difficult after this, but not impossible (?) | | Static Link |
| Posted by: sabrina43 at March 13, 2008, 3:32 pm | | Topic: Anyone Know What Happened To Usafreedom Casino Forum: Winner Online | | you seem very knowledgeable and i thank you for that lb, i think that they are having some type of misfortune myself right now, or what the heck just tell the people, what can we do about it, right, its a risk that we know we are taking, its just that i thought much better of them. My dealings with them do not seem to jive with this mysterous stuff. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Larrybob at March 13, 2008, 11:20 am | | Topic: Anyone Know What Happened To Usafreedom Casino Forum: Winner Online | It could be that they closed up shop and ran off with the money... but there's something I just can't put my finger on that says it might be a 'technical' problem related to US gaming. It would certainly be good for their long term chances in the market to communicate though! Everything indicates that players are screwed... but I've just 'got a feeling' it will work out.
If you signed up through an affiliate, do you recall whose page you found the casino on? That person my be contacted before players are. If it's a legal matter and someone in the organization (not affiliate) was vulnerable to legal action they may not be communicating on advice of counsel until they are safe. Any way it shakes out, I would wait a good long time before trusting them with my money again... unless you're foolish like me and are willing to risk a few bucks at a time for the variety (knowing fullwell that you may never see the money again) They may be perfectly honest but they were always kind of 'shady' as they operated in t... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: sabrina43 at March 12, 2008, 7:37 pm | | Topic: Anyone Know What Happened To Usafreedom Casino Forum: Winner Online | | Thanks for some input, i received a message via a third party (dont want to mention ). We have received the last reply on 10th of March stating that `We(meaning usafreedom) have been in contact with our players. We are waiting to get our servers back online. It could take up to another month to be back online. As soon as we are online I will let you know.` If that is true, but i know that no one has contacted me at all. | | Static Link |
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