| Posted by: porkrind at February 23, 2006, 10:02 pm | | Topic: Is it just me, or has bonuswhoring become very lame? Forum: Bonus Whores | Mikke_ wrote: Penyeach wrote: yliherra wrote: A good poker player never stops learning.
It takes an entire village to molest a child. Or something. GROUP HUG!
Je ne comprends pas.
P.S. Please explain that comment - is it a quote? Or all your own work?
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| Posted by: Mikke_ at February 23, 2006, 9:40 pm | | Topic: Is it just me, or has bonuswhoring become very lame? Forum: Bonus Whores | Penyeach wrote: yliherra wrote: A good poker player never stops learning.
It takes an entire village to molest a child. Or something. GROUP HUG!
Je ne comprends pas.
P.S. Please explain that comment - is it a quote? Or all your own work?
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| Posted by: jeffostar at February 23, 2006, 7:58 pm | | Topic: Is it just me, or has bonuswhoring become very lame? Forum: Bonus Whores | | Bonus whoring is a total grind. So is poker, in general. Bonus whoring is just more profitable. The hookers I patronize with the money I whore are fun though. Especially after 1/2 bottle of SoCo. Next person who bitches, I'm gonna kick where they fuck. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: stfumofosob at February 23, 2006, 8:50 am | | Topic: Is it just me, or has bonuswhoring become very lame? Forum: Bonus Whores | Poker is fun when you are learning, otherwise it's just grinding. Bonus whoring all about money, sure no one likes to grind... but it's like a job, you're only doing it because of the money. If you win the lottery would you still be doing your job? Same thing for poker, if you win the lottery would you still be whoring?
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| Posted by: tornan at February 23, 2006, 8:10 am | | Topic: Is it just me, or has bonuswhoring become very lame? Forum: Bonus Whores | Well back to the original poster? "Is it just me..."
Well it may be just you, but whoever else agrees with you has become a bit short-sighted. This game is not going anywhere and neither is the incredible advantage of the bonus game. If you make $50,000 a year in your "other" job then maybe you don't need BW, but if you don't an extra $1000-$2000 a month can be life changing to make in your spare time.
If you spend all of your time online and talking to other poker players then I can easily see how you may think what you think. The online bonus game has changed a tad, but its not going away. This is a global game and out of all the "real" humans I have contact with, only one other plays online poker...and that was the guy who told me about it.
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| Posted by: todd at February 23, 2006, 6:08 am | | Topic: Is it just me, or has bonuswhoring become very lame? Forum: Bonus Whores | HeelHo wrote: what percentage of players do you think can make money then? At 150% rakebac, 100%, 60%, and i guess at 25-35% rakeback you would get at no bonus $3 rake games?
It depends on what limits are being played. At lower limits, players don't play as well, but overcoming rake requires a higher winrate. Raking $1 from a $20 pot knocks down BB/100 more than raking $3 from a $5000 pot.
But let's look at $1/2 at Party, which may be the most popular game among readers of this forum. In my PT, average rake is 55 cents/hand in this game, or 2.75BB/100 per player.
Here are some numbers to help us make an educated guess about the answer to your question.
At 150% rakeback, anyone better than -4.125BB/100 is a winner.
At 100% rakeback, anyone better than -2.75BB/100 is a winner.
At 60% rakeback, anyone better than -1.65BB/100 is a winner.
At 25% rakeback, anyone better than -0.6875BB/100 is a winner.
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| Posted by: todd at February 23, 2006, 5:45 am | | Topic: Is it just me, or has bonuswhoring become very lame? Forum: Bonus Whores | Reef wrote: good point.. but then you would agree that there is a player who can "beat" .25/.50 - but not beat .50/1 ? Or same with from 1/2 to 2/4? Heck, I've heard 2/4 is even easier than 1/2. But anyway.. meh.
Yeah, I agree.
Furthermore, I think most people won't hit the "plateau" I was talking about at today's .50/1 games. I'm going to take a wild guess and say that the plateau effect won't kick in for more than half of the population until you hit a game with the difficulty of, say, today's $1/2 games. But it's hard for people like us (who have naturally done well at gambling games) to say exactly how well random people can do if they put in the work. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: HeelHo at February 23, 2006, 12:27 am | | Topic: Is it just me, or has bonuswhoring become very lame? Forum: Bonus Whores | what percentage of players do you think can make money then? At 150% rakebac, 100%, 60%, and i guess at 25-35% rakeback you would get at no bonus $3 rake games?
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| Posted by: todd at February 22, 2006, 11:54 pm | | Topic: Is it just me, or has bonuswhoring become very lame? Forum: Bonus Whores | Reef wrote: I made the mistake of chasing bonuses early in my poker "career"
It was a mistake for you, but for most players, it's not. The majority of whores maximize their earn whoring low limits.
Mathematics dictates that only a small percentage of those who can win against weaker opponents while receiving a higher portion of their rake back (bonus whoring) will also win against stronger opponents with less rake back (rakeback with the occasional bonus at higher limits).
For the same reason, the popular suggestion to "improve your game" can only work for a small percentage of players if everyone follows that advice. However, in reality, I guess not everyone follows that advice.
Still, in all games and sports, players often reach a plateau in skill level after which it becomes difficult or impossible to improve.
Career minor league baseball players are generally trying damn hard to improve their games, but for most of them, t... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Pokerdogg at February 22, 2006, 11:16 pm | | Topic: Is it just me, or has bonuswhoring become very lame? Forum: Bonus Whores | Dr_Sturgeon wrote: Greetings all
New to the forum so expecting a flaming....
I'm a pretty moderate player, started off donating but now I am a steady winner at 10c/25c - (no laughing at the back from you $3/$6 players..) For what it's worth I try and use the bonuses constructively if you like. I'll clear something and try and test myself at 25/50c with some bonus money and see how it goes.
Without bonuses at the moment the bankroll can't take the variance to even sniff at higher stakes game though I feel I need to try and move up a level to prevent my game stagnating.
So I win, my poker wins from testing myself from time to time and the sites win as I keep coming back and giving them rake. I want to be able to be more than a "Party Fish raper" (loved that turn of phrase), and I need bonuses to be able to do it. Otherwise I'd have probably checked out by now.
Viva the bonus
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| Posted by: Dr_Sturgeon at February 22, 2006, 6:35 pm | | Topic: Is it just me, or has bonuswhoring become very lame? Forum: Bonus Whores | Greetings all
New to the forum so expecting a flaming....
I'm a pretty moderate player, started off donating but now I am a steady winner at 10c/25c - (no laughing at the back from you $3/$6 players..) For what it's worth I try and use the bonuses constructively if you like. I'll clear something and try and test myself at 25/50c with some bonus money and see how it goes.
Without bonuses at the moment the bankroll can't take the variance to even sniff at higher stakes game though I feel I need to try and move up a level to prevent my game stagnating.
So I win, my poker wins from testing myself from time to time and the sites win as I keep coming back and giving them rake. I want to be able to be more than a "Party Fish raper" (loved that turn of phrase), and I need bonuses to be able to do it. Otherwise I'd have probably checked out by now.
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| Posted by: forever14 at February 22, 2006, 5:24 pm | | Topic: Is it just me, or has bonuswhoring become very lame? Forum: Bonus Whores | AJ wrote: I think bonuses have hindered my play personally. I started out at the 0.10/0.25 at Paradise and worked my way up to 1/2...where I've stayed.
I used to hate playing more than 2 tables at a time and I spent a lot more time focusing on the game. It wasn't until later, that I discovered how much could be made from bonuses at low levels that I started seriously multi-tabling (4 or more). And that's about the time that my improvement greatly slowed down. Why get better when you can win at 1/2 and clear bonus at the same time with almost no effort.
I recall, a year and a half ago, posting on here that I didn't like Party's $200 bonuses because they required me to grind out too much play, and I had to play more than 2 tables to get in the raked hands in 7-10 days.
Now, I'd be very excited about that...but my game hasn't really progressed.
I actually look forward to working on that more. I've been on autopilot too long because of the bonuses.
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| Posted by: Reef at February 22, 2006, 3:03 pm | | Topic: Is it just me, or has bonuswhoring become very lame? Forum: Bonus Whores | Penyeach wrote: Mikke_ wrote: Reef wrote: I chuckle at .25/.50 "pro" bonus whores
General reply to commments of this ilk.
1) Re-read Alphaunit1's post a few posts above.
2) Check out the name of this site, and remember the purpose.
3) Let everyone find their own level - no need to look down with your nose stuck in the air. It's a bigger drop when you fall from the higher levels, and they won't bother catching you as you chuckle by.
Yes, of course - those break-even .25/.50 players deserve plenty of respect because that's just who they are and what they do, and we shouldn't knock them for being themselves. (Remember, there's a big difference between starting at play money and micro stakes and grinding penny stakes 4 years later).
If any of you are interested, I'm hosting a Duck-Duck-Goose party this weekend. Bring milk, cookies and self-esteem!
a winning or break even player at .25/.50 needs to gro... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Reef at February 22, 2006, 2:58 pm | | Topic: Is it just me, or has bonuswhoring become very lame? Forum: Bonus Whores | Mikke_ wrote: Reef wrote: I chuckle at .25/.50 "pro" bonus whores
General reply to commments of this ilk.
1) Re-read Alphaunit1's post a few posts above.
2) Check out the name of this site, and remember the purpose.
3) Let everyone find their own level - no need to look down with your nose stuck in the air. It's a bigger drop when you fall from the higher levels, and they won't bother catching you as you chuckle by.
I think you mistake me for an arrogant bastard. I was talking about the "pros". If it's just a hobby or side cash, then its cool. But if you do it for a living - I chuckle. Just learn to play the game g00ter and your $$ flow will be MUCH larger. I made the mistake of chasing bonuses early in my poker "career" | | Static Link |
| Posted by: EZ at February 22, 2006, 8:21 am | | Topic: Is it just me, or has bonuswhoring become very lame? Forum: Bonus Whores | Mr. Viscant, have you whored a sportsbook or casino?? if you have, you don't have much room to talk.
there are people out there that beat the spreads and enjoy the sportsbook bonuses to help EV. same with video poker and damn you Viscant......you are ruining it by not even trying to bet legit (arbing) or playing an easy game like black jack and cheating the system for the full time players.
take your bitchin to a real poker forum. not a bonus whoring site. got news for you, sign up bonuses and reloads are to attract New players and meant as a bonus for those loyal players playing non-bonus hands throughout the month.
when a bonus changes they can do 1 of 2 things. change the pot size to more $'s to get credit ($20) or change from a 5x to a 10x's.
and sorry bro, the latter is more realistic for the brand new players to attain......and sites are after keeping and bringing in new players. so don't come in here bitchin the next time a bonus changes in a... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Penyeach at February 22, 2006, 7:58 am | | Topic: Is it just me, or has bonuswhoring become very lame? Forum: Bonus Whores | Mikke_ wrote: Reef wrote: I chuckle at .25/.50 "pro" bonus whores
General reply to commments of this ilk.
1) Re-read Alphaunit1's post a few posts above.
2) Check out the name of this site, and remember the purpose.
3) Let everyone find their own level - no need to look down with your nose stuck in the air. It's a bigger drop when you fall from the higher levels, and they won't bother catching you as you chuckle by.
Yes, of course - those break-even .25/.50 players deserve plenty of respect because that's just who they are and what they do, and we shouldn't knock them for being themselves. (Remember, there's a big difference between starting at play money and micro stakes and grinding penny stakes 4 years later).
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| Posted by: uncleshady at February 22, 2006, 3:21 am | | Topic: Is it just me, or has bonuswhoring become very lame? Forum: Bonus Whores | | Even those guys only breaking even or losing a little are still coming out way ahead of Wal Mart employees or any fast food joint employees after bonuses. I dont fault them at all, and can find no good reason to discourage them. Maybe the learning curve is steeper? I'd rather grind than serve fries. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: elric at February 21, 2006, 4:46 pm | | Topic: Is it just me, or has bonuswhoring become very lame? Forum: Bonus Whores | Reef wrote: I chuckle at .25/.50 "pro" bonus whores
I play in the highest play chip poker games on the entire planet and I still respect the micro play chip playas. Hey everyone has to start somewhere!
We can't all be awesome like elric & CHRISTOPHER!
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| Posted by: Mikke_ at February 21, 2006, 4:00 pm | | Topic: Is it just me, or has bonuswhoring become very lame? Forum: Bonus Whores | Reef wrote: I chuckle at .25/.50 "pro" bonus whores
General reply to commments of this ilk.
1) Re-read Alphaunit1's post a few posts above.
2) Check out the name of this site, and remember the purpose.
3) Let everyone find their own level - no need to look down with your nose stuck in the air. It's a bigger drop when you fall from the higher levels, and they won't bother catching you as you chuckle by.
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| Posted by: Viscant at February 21, 2006, 2:53 pm | | Topic: Is it just me, or has bonuswhoring become very lame? Forum: Bonus Whores | Alphaunit1 wrote: The only people I don't mind the impact of this change on are the people who have been playing micro-limits for years and simply don't want to/haven't gotten better enough to play higher limits by now.
This is exactly what I'm talking about. All the people who swore up and down that they would never play poker above 1/2.
All the people who said that the Crypto bonuses were ruined.
All the people who said that the Poker Room bonuses were worthless now.
I would say I have zero sympathy for these people but that's too much. Like I said, I'm actively rooting for the poker rooms to shut down this kind of whoring. I mean, think about it. If whores hadn't ruined the 5x Party bonuses last year, we wouldn't be chomping at the bit to get 10x bonuses now. This is cause and effect in action.
That's my position. I don't get angry at people who are trying to build a bankroll. That's what bonuses are for. It's the people who are trying to go out o... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: lonestar at February 21, 2006, 2:37 pm | | Topic: Is it just me, or has bonuswhoring become very lame? Forum: Bonus Whores | I usually look at what my estimated hourly earning rate would be for a certain game with a certain bonus. I want to get atleast 15 dollar with Play+Bonus. If i dont see it adding up to atleast that number i won't care about it.
Take empire for instance, if I 5 table I will get around 200 raked hands per hour, depending on how shitty thight the tables are. If I 5 table my goal i just to break even. That means I would be making 24 dollars(2500 raked hand for 300 dollars) an hour and that is nice. Of course it is boring as hell 5 tabling thight low limit NL tables full of whores, but for 24 dollars I can take it.
I also play Heads Up over at bodog or ipoker or as lately VC poker. Where i hit atleast that 15 dollars per hour. Heads up is the only game i really do enjoy and the only game i actually consider myself good at(with the modification that i mainly play 10 and 20 dollar games, up on the 50+ the sharks would prolly eat me alive ) But it is in my view also the hardest game to con... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Mikke_ at February 21, 2006, 1:04 pm | | Topic: Is it just me, or has bonuswhoring become very lame? Forum: Bonus Whores | Two very nice posts by Alphunit1 and AJ IMHO.
I especially like what AJ said, as I hopefully just stopped myself following the same path. Since I increased my ability to multi-table (monitor size) I can see that my results are dipping. Even just these last few days, I realised that playing 3/4 tables at Empire was wrecking my normal game, and that as soon as I went back to 2 tables max. I was much more happy and confident, and more importantly, making fewer mistakes, and missing fewer chances to make a nice pot.
Basically, I have seen the light, and that means for me that it is 2 tables max. from now on, with my sights set on moving up in levels. My brain just isn't wired up for split-second decisions - I prefer to weigh up the table/cards and play the hand accordingly.
If it means that I can't make the Empire bonus, so be it. But I am going to get that 50BB back before the week is out!
I want to be in this for the long-haul, so it's time to get it right now I guess... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: AJ at February 21, 2006, 12:34 pm | | Topic: Is it just me, or has bonuswhoring become very lame? Forum: Bonus Whores | I think bonuses have hindered my play personally. I started out at the 0.10/0.25 at Paradise and worked my way up to 1/2...where I've stayed.
I used to hate playing more than 2 tables at a time and I spent a lot more time focusing on the game. It wasn't until later, that I discovered how much could be made from bonuses at low levels that I started seriously multi-tabling (4 or more). And that's about the time that my improvement greatly slowed down. Why get better when you can win at 1/2 and clear bonus at the same time with almost no effort.
I recall, a year and a half ago, posting on here that I didn't like Party's $200 bonuses because they required me to grind out too much play, and I had to play more than 2 tables to get in the raked hands in 7-10 days.
Now, I'd be very excited about that...but my game hasn't really progressed.
I actually look forward to working on that more. I've been on autopilot too long because of the bonuses.
When I first st... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Alphaunit1 at February 21, 2006, 10:20 am | | Topic: Is it just me, or has bonuswhoring become very lame? Forum: Bonus Whores | Dang Viscant, having a bad day?
I think a lot of people need to realize that nearly *everybody* starts at the bottom at one point or another - that is the normal evolution of most poker players. I do have to agree that I'm happy that a lot of sites are realizing that if they want to keep giving out attractive bonuses to keep their customers happy, they need to make them more revenue neutral - look at PokerRoom/skins as a prime example of this. They changed their entire bonus structure so now they literally can't lose money on a bonus - less profit, but they still profit. That is really good for the long term effect of having bonuses available -- with the poker room market maturing, insanely easy to clear bonuses are going to disappear, and changing the way they are structured so they work out to a pseudo-rakeback scheme works well for both players and sites in the long haul.
But I certainly don't denegrate the low-limit players/whores - I started there, I built up my bankroll there.... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: ratero at February 21, 2006, 8:31 am | | Topic: Is it just me, or has bonuswhoring become very lame? Forum: Bonus Whores | Viscant wrote: If anything the Crypto changes are a good thing. At least as opposed to what happened at Multipoker where they reacted by going 20x. Cryptos kept a reasonable multiplier and tried to encourage people to play higher. IT WORKED and not only that it increased the amount of dead weak-tight whore money at levels I wanted to play. I hope ALL rooms go this way.
Honestly I don't mean to come off TOO harsh, but the "bottomfeeders" (as put above) the .5/1 // 1/2 ONLY whores aren't just killing things off for themselves, they're damaging it for the rest of us as well, as seen by what happened to Multi and others. I've gone from not caring what happens to the bottomfeeders to actively rooting for the poker rooms to stop you. The less money they have to lose placating you, the more money they have for me and everybody else.
Bottomfeeding bonus whoring has ALWAYS been lame. If it really WAS possible for you not to be doing this fulltime (it's not), that would ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: EZ at February 21, 2006, 6:14 am | | Topic: Is it just me, or has bonuswhoring become very lame? Forum: Bonus Whores | well Viscant, i'm happy there are people like you. if everyone cleared the bonus at the lowest level then every site would have no choice but to raise up the stakes.
to each his own, i do this part time. and prefer to play against the biggest pool of fish, Rakefree, and no risk of a losing sessions beyong maybe $10.
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| Posted by: HeelHo at February 21, 2006, 4:42 am | | Topic: Is it just me, or has bonuswhoring become very lame? Forum: Bonus Whores | I doubt any of you is anywhere near the bottom feeder Ive been. .25/50 fixed limit on no bonus to build bankroll. then hours and hours of golden riviera and absolute and all the cryptos. and hell thats nothing compared to being bankrupt and hustling nickel booms and quarter diamond shafts and climbers. and hey, 1 bb/100 or 1 bb/100 an hour at 12 tables all with some kind of bonus, thats a hell of a lot better thank working away at some dress neat cut your hair kiss ass 40-60ka year job. thats real scum suckng bottom feeding.
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| Posted by: Pokerdogg at February 21, 2006, 12:25 am | | Topic: Is it just me, or has bonuswhoring become very lame? Forum: Bonus Whores | Viscant wrote: ...
Honestly I don't mean to come off TOO harsh, but the "bottomfeeders" (as put above) the .5/1 // 1/2 ONLY whores aren't just killing things off for themselves, they're damaging it for the rest of us as well, as seen by what happened to Multi and others. I've gone from not caring what happens to the bottomfeeders to actively rooting for the poker rooms to stop you. The less money they have to lose placating you, the more money they have for me and everybody else.
Bottomfeeding bonus whoring has ALWAYS been lame. If it really WAS possible for you not to be doing this fulltime (it's not), that would be a good thing for the advancement of poker.
I prefer the term hatchlings than bottom feeders. I was once in that same pond and swam quite happily there. Now that I've grown into a bigger fish, I have swam up to the bigger ponds.
Elric, I will take you on! I will put up $1000 of my own play money against you. You name the gam... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: elric at February 21, 2006, 12:15 am | | Topic: Is it just me, or has bonuswhoring become very lame? Forum: Bonus Whores | Viscant wrote: Honestly I don't mean to come off TOO harsh, but the "bottomfeeders"
Oh its on baby! I am calling you out. Heads up! Me and you! At the play money table of my choosing!
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| Posted by: Viscant at February 20, 2006, 11:56 pm | | Topic: Is it just me, or has bonuswhoring become very lame? Forum: Bonus Whores | If anything the Crypto changes are a good thing. At least as opposed to what happened at Multipoker where they reacted by going 20x. Cryptos kept a reasonable multiplier and tried to encourage people to play higher. IT WORKED and not only that it increased the amount of dead weak-tight whore money at levels I wanted to play. I hope ALL rooms go this way.
Honestly I don't mean to come off TOO harsh, but the "bottomfeeders" (as put above) the .5/1 // 1/2 ONLY whores aren't just killing things off for themselves, they're damaging it for the rest of us as well, as seen by what happened to Multi and others. I've gone from not caring what happens to the bottomfeeders to actively rooting for the poker rooms to stop you. The less money they have to lose placating you, the more money they have for me and everybody else.
Bottomfeeding bonus whoring has ALWAYS been lame. If it really WAS possible for you not to be doing this fulltime (it's not), that would be a good thing for the... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: EZ at February 20, 2006, 11:29 pm | | Topic: Is it just me, or has bonuswhoring become very lame? Forum: Bonus Whores | well it's obvious alot of us knew the cryptos were losing their ass before i think they did....lol. or they are just lazy bastards.
i can't imagine too many of these newbies doing well at the old crypto bonuses anyway. i found it very frustrating to play those tight ass 1/2 games.
just the martins bonus and the party blunders (all codes working) prob has made the last 4 months as good as ever for a newbie. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Pokerdogg at February 20, 2006, 9:21 pm | | Topic: Is it just me, or has bonuswhoring become very lame? Forum: Bonus Whores | One very positive change to the Crypto network since the change to bonus structure, is there are far fewer people taking forever to play their hands. It was frustrating me so much that I stopped playing at Crypto until this past month.
I have no problems playing at the limit they are comfortable at, and who knows when their opinion about the game would change. I have been reading Doubleas' blog, and it's funny how he was so careful about playing at the low limit table and not wanting to move up, and then a year later, he's playing and beating $5/10 and higher games.
I am grateful that bonus has allowed me to learn the game since I started 15 months ago, without breaking my bank. It is tougher now to the beginning player starting out at low or micro limits. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Nicodemus at February 20, 2006, 8:51 pm | | Topic: Is it just me, or has bonuswhoring become very lame? Forum: Bonus Whores | [quote="ratero"]
Although your post sounds encouraging, I found playing in the 1-2 FT LHE at WH last week very disappointing. Most of the hands were heads-up, BB against a raiser. Once in a while, 3-way and rarely 4 or more saw the flop. And it wasn’t just tight, it seemed tight and tough. Players making moves constantly. In my 20+ years playing in B&M, I have rarely seen games like that even at the 10- 20 or higher levels (levels which, admittedly, I haven’t played in much in the last 3 years).
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I'm not really sure what you mean by this. My point is that all the leather-assed boneheads who can't actually play wortha shit, that are scraping out a $45 bonus on $1/$2 are just getting what they deserve. Obviously, the WH, Ritz and formerly ukbetting and total bonuses were lowest risk by playing 1/2 - but until recently there wasn't even much option. Now with the growth of 2/4 games at crpto, it is a totally different ballgame and those who refuse to move... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: BigPoppa at February 20, 2006, 8:25 pm | | Topic: Is it just me, or has bonuswhoring become very lame? Forum: Bonus Whores | To the OP: I'm guessing you've never worked retail?
BTW: I could make $40+/hour from bonus 4 tabling $5/10 on Pokerroom, or almost that much 4 tabling $2/4 6max on Absolute.....if I was still into ring games.
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| Posted by: Nicodemus at February 20, 2006, 7:53 pm | | Topic: Is it just me, or has bonuswhoring become very lame? Forum: Bonus Whores | A machine? I usually clear the Absolute $400 from the weekend by no later than Tuesday (often Monday). Last week was a little different because of the 4-day/$700 bonus. Whatever the case, it less of "being a machine" than working the co-efficent 9-5 job. What's more, since I am not American citizen, I don't pay income tax on the poker winnings. $48k/year from Absolute as tax-free income is like a $85-$90K/year job.
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