| Posted by: grantt at July 26, 2001, 9:56 pm | | Topic: US online casinos! When and if? Forum: Winner Online |
Max Boot me from your site then. I could careless. I think your showing a strong bias and favoritism on your part but hey go ahead.
You won't find any complaints from me. If you want your site to just show one side of the coin that's fine. I get insults thrown at me every day by your forum memebers so much so that several have commented on my thick skin and you don't come to my defense. so lets just make it totally clear to everyone that you are a one way wally. I can post a ton of insults that have been hurled at me. These people cross the line more than George Bush's colouring book and no warning for them. Oh well we can all pretend we didn't notice. Do you only moderate every second post?
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| Posted by: max at July 26, 2001, 4:04 pm | | Topic: US online casinos! When and if? Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by grantt:
Mary that's perfectly fine with me that we differ on almost everything. I'm easy going and care free and you are a serious Natzi. ....
You know what grantt? The folks who yell "Nazi" the first and loudest are usually the ones who should be wearing the "Kick Me! I'm a pain in the ass" sign around their neck.
These boards are for discussion not name-calling, nor habitual shiit-disturbing, nor any of that rubbish. Clean up your act man, or take it elsewhere.
And if you're thinking of getting off on a "freedom of speech!"/"you commie-lover"/"dictator!" rant, save your breath. I'm not interested and I can promise you that nobody else is either.
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| Posted by: grantt at July 26, 2001, 3:51 pm | | Topic: US online casinos! When and if? Forum: Winner Online |
and Mary you are highly offensive to me so I guess I got my point across. Don't follow me around the board then and follow up each one of my posts with your nonsense posts then. Yes and I'm extremly sensitive as well so gentle please. Give it a rest.
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| Posted by: grantt at July 26, 2001, 2:13 pm | | Topic: US online casinos! When and if? Forum: Winner Online |
Mary that's perfectly fine with me that we differ on almost everything. I'm easy going and care free and you are a serious Natzi. Mary maybe you didn't get it. I said it's a site I like so what is your problem with me posting under casino promos their casino promos. I have mentioned lots of sites I like in forums. I mention sites I like and casinos with good customer service records. If you know differently please advise. I was under the impression that this is what theses casino forums are all about. Why don't you start your own forum where you can dictate all you like. There are lots of free ones available. That one I promise I will never post on. You can make it you have to be German and have had run a concentration camp to be a member.
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| Posted by: The Original Mary at July 26, 2001, 1:45 pm | | Topic: US online casinos! When and if? Forum: Winner Online |
Soo, it's only a coincidence that you post promotional info in over 20 discussion boards about the sites that have banners on your "homepage"?
I think you're right; the relationship is strictly plutonic, which, if you will check your Latin dictionary means it is a relationship that is about money. (Plutus is the god of money)
Just as we differ in our sense of humor, I believe we differ in our sense of business ethics.
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| Posted by: grantt at July 26, 2001, 1:01 pm | | Topic: US online casinos! When and if? Forum: Winner Online |
Mary it's strictly plutonic.
It's a cool site thats all.
It's a good site for one stop humor.
You don't have a sense of humor so it won't be your cup of tea or of any use to you.
It's the ultimate guy site.
Humor, sports, tech toys, gambling, music, cars and babes all under one roof. It's an entertainment site. You want to laugh your ass off go there if you don't fine. Does it get thousands of isitors a day, yeah probably. I like it.
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| Posted by: Got2Bet at July 26, 2001, 10:46 am | | Topic: US online casinos! When and if? Forum: Winner Online |
The brand name has little alue, that's not what I am protecting. But anyhow that's of no consequence.
Ulterior motives are not denied. I sell advertising, I promote casinos - but I also reject casinos and programs who do not meet certain standards, I think I have said that before.
I have never hidden this information from anyone, nor denied it, nor anything of the sort - but I do actively monitor for problems at any of these casinos because I feel obligated to keep gamblers away from troublesome and/or dishonest places, simple as that.
Thanks for the link report. It appears that that whole group has reworked their websites since the worm attack by the Chinese.
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| Posted by: grantt at July 26, 2001, 10:11 am | | Topic: US online casinos! When and if? Forum: Winner Online |
Got2bet re-read my post it says that they have all been resolved satisfactorally and yes that is ery good. You seem to promote decent sites and I have seen where you go to bat for a customer if they have a problem at one of these site. My point is that a casino portal operator has ulterior motives to promote casinos. You seem to run a decent operation. You are overly bias though and thats understandable. You like to protect your brand name like a pit bull.
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| Posted by: Got2Bet at July 26, 2001, 9:44 am | | Topic: US online casinos! When and if? Forum: Winner Online |
Name just one that is not a good casino, that does not deserve to be promoted.
Your "ten" is just plain ridiculous. There are a few, with a few grumbles, that have been satisfactorily resolved, which should be a POSITIVE thing.
C'mon, either name the casinos or admit you were wrong.
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| Posted by: grantt at July 26, 2001, 9:09 am | | Topic: US online casinos! When and if? Forum: Winner Online |
Got2bet several sites you promote have casino grumbles filed against them I counted over 10. In your defense they have all been resolved satisfactorally. Most being caused by customer error and the ones that where a slight oversight or mistake on the casinos part were resolved satisfctorally as well. Most often with a extra bonus to the customer and an apology.
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| Posted by: Got2Bet at July 25, 2001, 11:23 pm | | Topic: US online casinos! When and if? Forum: Winner Online |
Name them, Grantt. I have asked you repeatedly to name those you feel are questionable, yet you spew all sorts of other BS.
Name them so everyone can see for themselves how full of **** you are..
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| Posted by: The Original Mary at July 25, 2001, 10:46 pm | | Topic: US online casinos! When and if? Forum: Winner Online |
"It's away for guys who can't afford their own site to play casino owner.
As you might expect there is a danger in this as the casino portals best interest is to have you go to casinos they get a kick back from regardless of there quality."
And then there are the portals that host forums...
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| Posted by: grantt at July 25, 2001, 10:00 pm | | Topic: US online casinos! When and if? Forum: Winner Online |
Looks like I'm being ganged up on by a double order of spam.
what you are doing if you go to a casino ia a casino portal is making it so the casino portal in which you linked from is getting a piece of your betting action.
eg. if you go to got2bet and click on a casino banner there and then carry on and make a deposit at that casino and play there. The casino portal in which you came from will get a certain percentage of your action for them sending you there.
It's away for guys who can't afford their own site to play casino owner.
As you might expect there is a danger in this as the casino portals best interest is to have you go to casinos they get a kick back from regardless of there quality. You can see this first hand at got2spams site as it promotes lots of casinos that have several gambling grumbles agaist them but he continues to promote them anyway because they give him a good cut on the traffic he sends there. Not bad for a guy who knows F.A.
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| Posted by: Got2Bet at July 25, 2001, 7:34 am | | Topic: US online casinos! When and if? Forum: Winner Online |
... which, unfortunately, you haven't been doing as you have proven you don't know anything.
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| Posted by: grantt at July 24, 2001, 10:49 pm | | Topic: US online casinos! When and if? Forum: Winner Online |
Mary why don't you explain to people that might not know what you mean by supporting a casino portal by clicking on their affiliate banner. Mary JetSet seems to think your a God and know alot more about this industry than me but I'm ery comfortable sitting back and letting you go on and on thinking your right while I bask securely in the power of the knowledge that you are completely full of it. JetSet I,m glad you are learning so much from Mary and Got2spam but I'll let you know when they tell me something I don't know already.
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| Posted by: The Original Mary at July 24, 2001, 2:37 pm | | Topic: US online casinos! When and if? Forum: Winner Online |
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| Posted by: The Original Mary at July 24, 2001, 2:27 pm | | Topic: US online casinos! When and if? Forum: Winner Online |
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| Posted by: The Original Mary at July 24, 2001, 1:55 pm | | Topic: US online casinos! When and if? Forum: Winner Online |
www.stanleyacropolis.com
Huge publically traded British firm, good non-Microgaming software, I really admire the blackjack promo they recently ran.
www.lasseters.au.com
Australian casino operator with/land operation that uses Access Gaming's software. Has penny slots.
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| Posted by: GamBlurrr at July 24, 2001, 12:34 pm | | Topic: US online casinos! When and if? Forum: Winner Online |
Good thoughts guys! I've yet to mess around with UK or Australian operations. Aren't some of them Micro Gaming? (A big NO in my book!) Which ones aren't MG? What software do they use?
This credit card fuss is starting to get me down. I hope it doesn't go so far that online gambling will be incredibly hard to do and fund.
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| Posted by: MrWolf at July 24, 2001, 10:25 am | | Topic: US online casinos! When and if? Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by GamBlurrr:
[B].Big companies like Harrah's and MGM, have enormous amounts of money and this will improve customer service, faster and accurate payouts and perhaps much better terms on bonuses. They have the capital to do it and being on the internet will reduce their overhead dramatically.B]
Good point about established companies with the capital to properly fund their online entures and make sure players actually get paid.
I think many people will agree that some of the most reliable online casinos already are Stanley Acropolis, William Hill, and Ladbrokes, who are all well-established in the UK gaming industry. Aspinalls have also entered the market recently, and I expect them to be just as reliable and prompt in paying.
If as you say larger companies like Harrahs and MGM enter the fray, then it can only be good from the players' point of iew and will hopefully see an end to many of the crooks out there.
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| Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 23, 2001, 7:47 pm | | Topic: US online casinos! When and if? Forum: Winner Online |
There is also Vanuatu - things are still in their infancy there (although more advanced than most of the others mentioned), but they are gaining momentum. They are using a revised ersion of the Australian Regulations so everything is covered, not just the financial well being of the company, but software, the registration process, technical security etc.
Like I said, still in its infancy, but recently some big Australian companies (PBL, who operate Crown Casino in Melbourne) have indicated that they are about to set up there etc.
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| Posted by: Jetset at July 20, 2001, 12:38 am | | Topic: US online casinos! When and if? Forum: Winner Online |
On an international level it's a mixed bag of good and bad news, too.
Over in Australia the federal government are retreating from a position where they had really good online gambling regulation by the states to an impractical ban on internet gambling ridden with unfair exemptions. That was a pity.
However, over in Europe the Isle of Man are assessing the initial three internet gambling operations they will be regulating with stringent requirements in funding, monitoring and operator probity so once that starts rolling we should have a reasonably safe selection of enues. They have received a further nine applications and although they plan to restrict the number of licences issued it should yield a few more sound operations.
The UK is also mulling over regulative possibilities and you can bet those will be strict.
Antigua's tighter regulations look encouraging too (if their complaints structure is jacked up) and they've now been taken off the naughty list by the UK f... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Got2Bet at July 19, 2001, 11:43 pm | | Topic: US online casinos! When and if? Forum: Winner Online |
The "when" is still some time off, unfortunately. Expect an absolute minimum of 18 months waiting time, although one major group has threatened to go open offshore first.
The licensing in Nevada is also restricted to casino/hotel complexes with at least 200 rooms (if I recall correctly). And thus no offshore operator can come and operate in Las Vegas without purchasing a controlling stake in such a casino/hotel, which would be prohibitively expensive.
Yes, it will certainly chase the low-end stuff out of the market. And the poorly-funded ones.
But remember that the US casino groups do not have much of an image outside the US and Canada (with the possible exception of Caesar's Palace) - and offshore casinos had better start looking to other markets if they want to survive.
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| Posted by: GamBlurrr at July 19, 2001, 2:47 pm | | Topic: US online casinos! When and if? Forum: Winner Online |
As some of you may know, Nevada passed some online gaming bill recently. This means the big land-based casinos have a chance at going online. They are, however, reluctant to immediately go online because of the Federal Wire Act and the fact that it will be hard to erify the age and the location(legality to gamble) of players.
To the point! I think that IF and WHEN US gaming companies can get internet gaming licences it will solve a lot of problems people have been complaining about. I think that players will trust them more as they would be regulated by the Nevada Gaming Comission. No more rigged games! Fewer chargebacks, if any! I think this will in turn let the credit companies allow us to use our cards again at these sites! lol
Big companies like Harrah's and MGM, have enormous amounts of money and this will improve customer service, faster and accurate payouts and perhaps much better terms on bonuses. They have the capital to do it and being on the internet will reduce their overhe... | | Read Entire Entry |
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