| Posted by: Dirk_Dangerous at September 2, 2001, 6:13 pm | | Topic: Why Should I Trust Any Online Software to Be Fair and Random? Forum: Winner Online |
Online casinos cheat for one reason: They can.
Just as the poster above has explained, Joe & Jane gambler will never notice that the non-random payback on a BJ or VP game is 90.5% s. a fair 99.5% game.
And the slot addicts don't care. Many of them never even cash out--they simply lose any and all deposits + bonus dollars. Their goal is to hit the "big one" or nothing at all. Losing is a way of life for this type of player, they expect it to happen, and when it does they think nothing of it. It would be easy to cheat this type of player.
The only groups concerned about this sort of thing are experienced and smart gamblers & groups like the OPA and the Gamemaster.
If this backend thing is real, then this software has been online and cheating players for years!! Up to this point no one has noticed what was happening. Now why is that???
IMO, it's all ery sad. One can only wonder how many people have been hurt financially because of this type of... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Dave R at September 2, 2001, 4:55 pm | | Topic: Why Should I Trust Any Online Software to Be Fair and Random? Forum: Winner Online |
Amazingly enough, the next message in this thread on alt.gambling was posted by Brian Cullingworth, so without further ado:
From: Brian Cullingworth
Subject: Re: Online Casino Payout Rates -- RIPOFF
Newsgroups: alt.gambling
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Date: 1999/06/23
<bobby231439@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:7kltb0$gbr$1@nnrp1.deja.com...
> In article <7kk913$uii$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> rphebert@my-deja.com wrote:
> > Many of you have probably seen the posts for online casinos.<SNIP>
There follows a pretty subjective, generalized and unsubstantiated attack on
online casinos which is simply not true or fair to all. As an operator of a
group of onlines which are IGC members and adhere to that body"s Code of
Ethics and fair practise requirements I make the point that you cannot tar
every operation with the same brush.
Check www.igcouncil.org for IGC information and operating guidelines.<... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Dave R at September 2, 2001, 1:56 pm | | Topic: Why Should I Trust Any Online Software to Be Fair and Random? Forum: Winner Online |
This posting from the alt.gambling newsgroup sums up my opinion:
From: rphebert@my-deja.com (rphebert@my-deja.com)
Subject: Online Casino Payout Rates -- RIPOFF
Newsgroups: alt.gambling
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Date: 1999/06/21
Many of you have probably seen the posts for online casinos.
These casinos often promise lucrative bonuses for new users and even
comp packages that are better than what one might find in Vegas. They
all promise to conform to Carribean regulations and they all use random
number generators. They do. The games, however, ARE NOT FAIR. The
blackjack or Craps that you play on an online casino is similar to the
Video machines you find at real Casinos. They all, without exception,
have tunable odds that in no way reflect the probabilities of the
actual game. The random generator in the game does not simulate actual
decks or dice throws. Rather, it generates results that overall are
consistent with the tuned ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Dirk_Dangerous at September 2, 2001, 1:53 pm | | Topic: Why Should I Trust Any Online Software to Be Fair and Random? Forum: Winner Online |
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But always remember. There's no regulation.
This is a ery important point. There is no regulation. There are no "gaming commissions” doing checks of software to insure that card/video poker games are being dealt randomly. We are supposed to trust Microgaming, RTG or Boss simply because they say there games are random? $1000 bucks says the group that has the backend shown on Gamemaster also said their software was random.
Given how PWC is handling the Tropika problem, I don’t have any trust in them either, so their seal of approval means nothing.
Yes you can win playing online, but playing without a bonus would be ery foolish in my opinion. To do otherwise is just throwing money down the drain.
When playing online, always demand a bonus or don’t play. It is the only way to protect yourself.
Dirk
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| Posted by: Dave R at September 2, 2001, 1:32 pm | | Topic: Why Should I Trust Any Online Software to Be Fair and Random? Forum: Winner Online |
To make you even more suspicious, I reprint the following message from the P4K gambling forum:
HOW CAN ONE PERSON BE SO LUCKY?
I just got this in my email from one of the SunnyGroup Casinos. Can you believe someone can be this lucky!!
You noticed they don't how much she spent to hit those jackpots!!!
Jean G hits Lotsaloot for the 8th time!
She's done it again!
This time the lucky lady won $65,075.75 on her favorite game Lotsaloot!
After her last win, Jean said: "If I win again I will get a tattoo with the Lotsaloot logo on it!!!"
Did you do it yet, Jean???
Jean's Amazing Wins
2001
Aug 28
$65,075.75
Jan 25 $17,353.64
2000
Dec 2 $13,355.87
No 4 $68,562.14
Sept 21 $64,731.32
Aug 30 $39,629.53
Aug 23 $87, 710.80
Aug 14 $27,476.30
[End quote]
Ever wonder if Jean G. is a shill for Microgaming? I'm not making any accusati... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Dirk_Dangerous at September 2, 2001, 1:18 pm | | Topic: Why Should I Trust Any Online Software to Be Fair and Random? Forum: Winner Online |
The Gamemaster has a screen shot of the backend features of an active software provider that clearly proves this software provider can set the frequencies of payouts for arious ideo poker hands. In other words, the software cheats (go to www.gamemasteronline.com and then from the left hand menu, click on the “video poker” link.
For example, this company can set the Royal to hit every 100,000 hands. In a fair and randomly dealt game, a Royal will hit roughly every 40,000 hands. This is a big difference
I do not know who the software provider is, but I have a pretty good idea.
This only confirms my suspicions that all software providers have gaffed games. Some groups are a little more clever about it than others, but I no longer trust any software provider to offer a random and fair game. And they simply aren’t doing enough to prove to players that their games are fair and random.
It would be foolish to trust any of the current SW providers. Be a smart player and only p... | | Read Entire Entry |
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