| Posted by: Got2Bet at September 22, 2001, 11:27 pm | | Topic: Luckynugget? Forum: Winner Online |
Some of those are a bit old
Proc Cyber is not the most efficient company on earth - that's for sure. They really need to get their act together.
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| Posted by: Mrracetrack at September 22, 2001, 11:24 pm | | Topic: Luckynugget? Forum: Winner Online |
38 Special, in response to your statement of
"Proc handles a lot of MG casinos. I would think if it were really a problem, the OPA would take these guys on and we'd be hearing from a lot more people than this."
Well, they have. Go to www.casinomeister.com
( the board used for the OPA)and do a "search" for "Proc Cyber". You will be quite surprised with the olume of posts about this "great" processing company, and the morons whom they employ.
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| Posted by: Got2Bet at September 22, 2001, 11:17 pm | | Topic: Luckynugget? Forum: Winner Online |
There are a lot of casinos using Proc Cyber. I cannot name them because I don't have a full list but the ones mentioned in here already are certainly using Proc Cyber.
As for problems? I have not heard of any serious problems lately, and payments seem to be reasonably timely.
However, I would like to hear of anyone who is having any problems now.
BTW, Proc-Cyber actually USES Firecash as the processor. They are not sister companies to the best of my knowledge.
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| Posted by: 38Special at September 22, 2001, 10:38 pm | | Topic: Luckynugget? Forum: Winner Online |
Well,I can only speak from my own experience.Proc handles a lot of MG casinos. I would think if it were really a problem, the OPA would take these guys on and we'd be hearing from a lot more people than this. I've had no problem, Trader is OVERPAID, Colly says, fine but slow and you and Jen had a problem. The thing I see in this thread though is that for some reason there was a problem or questions asked that apparently bothered the casino. Maybe the casinos are getting to the point where if they think someone is going to do chargeback, they'd rather not have to potential business. They are all saying that from the casino's side of the fence, chargebacks are killing them. I hate to say it, Orbital is one of them that paid me in about two weeks. Nugget was 3 or 4. Don't know why it was longer but it was. I never had to make a call, badger anyone. They just showed up in a couple weeks. LIKE THEY ALL SHOULD! Of course they all don't though. The impression I got from your earlier post was that you apparentl... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Mrracetrack at September 22, 2001, 7:50 pm | | Topic: Luckynugget? Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by 38Special:
Absolutely NO Problems here at all. Definately OK. They are part of the group that has Riverbelle,Gaming Club and Orbital.
I won some at Orbital and Lucky Nugget, Lost a little at the other two. Paid ery timely. 2, 3 weeks tops.
38 Special, perhaps you want to "re evaluate"
your statement of "Absolutely NO Problems here" after reviewing some of the posts in this thread??
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| Posted by: scaven at September 22, 2001, 11:32 am | | Topic: Luckynugget? Forum: Winner Online |
I was also locked out of proccyber casinos because I QUESTIONED a charge. Never once mentioned a charge back. i dont know what their problem is. who cares, they wont last long with these shady business practices. besides, their blackjack game has an unfair advantage (why cant you see the dealers hand on a bust?)
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| Posted by: sergio99 at September 22, 2001, 2:10 am | | Topic: Luckynugget? Forum: Winner Online |
Next time you should go to yahoo and type in "luckynugget.com review" that's what I always do when I come to a casino that I have never heard of, which there aren't many of
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| Posted by: Sevastou at September 20, 2001, 11:30 am | | Topic: Luckynugget? Forum: Winner Online |
"Imao"--what language is that? Must be the know-it-all-language... And I didn't say I don't play Cryptologic casinos, I said "I don't have anything to do with Cryptologic"--and within a context intent on denying your neat little "pigeon-hole philosophy" when it comes to classifying everybody and everything on this message board.And what's so bad about MG anyway?--beats your "pals" who want us all in their box; conspiring , thieving middlemen here to take over and run the industry...out of business...and ofcourse 38 supports them:ignorance, indeed, has no bounds!
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| Posted by: 38Special at September 20, 2001, 5:51 am | | Topic: Luckynugget? Forum: Winner Online |
Forgot to ask Hot Shot, Just what are the casinos you play that are not participating in great processor conspiracy? If you don't play Cryptos and you don't play casinos that take Firepay or Pal, That pretty much leaves MS Gaming Zone!
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| Posted by: 38Special at September 20, 2001, 5:30 am | | Topic: Luckynugget? Forum: Winner Online |
"Everytime you buy something from anyone on a credit card, the bank, a processor, sometimes both, somebody is getting a piece of it."( The part that "may change" is that we will have to pay cash advance fees on every dollar, where we pay none now}
If your going to post a repsonse, at least read what your responding to. Once again, your ignorance has preceeded you. I think everyone over the the age 10 knows that all merchants from all businesses pay 1 to 5 % for each transaction made to them ia a credit card. At a department store it's built into the price, we get all of ours in cash and in many cases now, a bonus to use Paypal and Firepay. Geez, if your that parinoid, use western union. You'll love their fees! lmao Your probably one of those people who think banks like people NOT to pay their credit card bill in full each month so they can charge BIG interest. You'd be wrong on that too!
Here's a good site for you. http://www.nypl.org/branch/kids/gloria.html
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| Posted by: Sevastou at September 20, 2001, 4:45 am | | Topic: Luckynugget? Forum: Winner Online |
"That may change..." What brilliant foresight! Do you think all your"pals" out there in processor-for-no-price-land are just hanging around for a hand-out? Watch what happens when they corner the market and make THEIR WAY mandatory:then, big shot(excuse the pun,38)nostalgia for the fair-play, old-pay methods will have all the using middleman scratching their...Watch the changes--online gaming, you should know, pro,has competitors some say in a desert across the seas--and the lobby behind them. BTW I have nothing to do with Cryptologic.
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| Posted by: 38Special at September 19, 2001, 5:06 pm | | Topic: Luckynugget? Forum: Winner Online |
Proc is just a Processor.There is an obvious connection between arious casinos and different processors that in many cases might even be owned by the server. I wonder about that all the time. The arious processors are rather important if you like gambling on line. With the downfall of credit cards, we would all be relegated to sending checks and using western union. I think that would kill the industry. We're not paying any unreasonable fees. That may change, but so far I personally haven't had to pay any fees.
At any rate, It seems to me that the more money they can keep in their house the better. Does it really matter to you WHO gets the merchant fee. It's not coming out of your pocket. Everytime you buy something from anyone on a credit card, the bank, a processor, sometimes both, somebody is getting a piece of it. We've been pretty lucky so far. We can deposit,get cash and rarely pay cash advance or any other fees or charges if you use the ery processors your putting down. In one swoop you elimi... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Sevastou at September 19, 2001, 3:23 pm | | Topic: Luckynugget? Forum: Winner Online |
Incurable optimist? Pyramids need passwords like "proccyber", or "middleman": they all guarantee you entrance into the Tomb of Unbound Wealth...BTW ironical a chain-letter con-man enters just at the moment we were all waiting for 38 Special to reply...proc-what?ha, ha, ha,hobby, no way 38, but what about the proc lobby?
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| Posted by: dalzilla at September 19, 2001, 2:51 pm | | Topic: Luckynugget? Forum: Winner Online |
Why in the heck would someone put something like this on this message board? I can't believe this ersion of a chain letter is still around. Ok, maybe I am just an incurable optimist :-)
Julia
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| Posted by: laxcp at September 19, 2001, 2:40 pm | | Topic: Luckynugget? Forum: Winner Online |
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| Posted by: laxcp at September 19, 2001, 2:38 pm | | Topic: Luckynugget? Forum: Winner Online |
TURN SIX DOLLARS INTO $6000 EASY AND HONESTLY!!!
READING THIS MESSAGE WILL CHANGE UR LIFE FOREVER
I found this on a bulletin board and decided to try it. A little while back, I was browsing through newsgroups, just like you are now, and came across an article similar to this that said you could make thousands of dollars within weeks with only an initial investment of $6.00! So I thought, "Yeah right, this must be a scam", but like most of us, I was curious, so I kept reading. Anyway, it said that you send $1.00 to each of the 6 names and address stated in the article. You then place your own name and address in the bottom of the list at #6, and post the article in at least 200 newsgroups. (There are thousands) No catch, that was it. So after thinking it over, and talking to a few people first, I thought about trying it. I figured: "what have I got to lose except 6 stamps and $6.00, right?" Then I invested the measly $6.00. Well GUESS WHAT!?... within 7 days, I sta... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Sevastou at September 19, 2001, 2:00 pm | | Topic: Luckynugget? Forum: Winner Online |
One should never get on the wrong side of a 38, who indeed has been around a long time as WOL's archives testify to. But for the record, 38, can you tell me why if I have a question about my p.p. account the URL is admin@proccyber.com?
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| Posted by: 38Special at September 19, 2001, 1:28 pm | | Topic: Luckynugget? Forum: Winner Online |
It's always interesting how 2 people who just signed up on this board in the last weeks, coincidently seem to support each other's extreme attacks on a given subject.
Let's see if I've got this right boys, Proccyber is connected with Firecash. Firecash is owned by Surefire which in turn owns Firepay as well, and then they're all in cahoots with Paypal to rip off the gambling public.
Well, the way it's going with credit cards and gambling and the simple fact that just about all the reputable casinos use Paypal,Firepay, Firecash or some affiliated sister. I'd say you probably ought to find a new hobby!
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| Posted by: Trader at September 19, 2001, 1:00 pm | | Topic: Luckynugget? Forum: Winner Online |
I have to agree that Proc Cyber makes a lot of mistakes, but some of them are in the player's favor. I have gotten several "honesty bonuses" for reporting overpayments.
My favorite was with a casino that no longer uses Proc Cyber. They sent me duplicate checks for $225 in the same envelope after shorting me $50 on the bonus. Then they refused to answer my emails about the overpayment. After a month I deposited the second check and it cleared. They can still have the extra money back if they will just answer me about how they want to fix this.
Another of their casinos credited more than $300 extra by ACH to my account and their records were so screwed up they could not figure it out so they told me to just keep it. On most Microgaming sites the "cashcheck" feature does not work correctly.
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| Posted by: Sevastou at September 19, 2001, 10:45 am | | Topic: Luckynugget? Forum: Winner Online |
Advice to luckystrike:stay away from Proc. Cyber as Mrracetrack and Jen have evidently(as in "evidence") made clear. Indeed, not only are Proc. Cyber and Firecash sister companies, but also Proc. Cyber and, guess who?--Paypal!-- are in cahoots(i.e., one in the same:what I like to call "the invisible rip technicians"). Compounded interest? These new age loan sharks are just, literally, beginning: and the reason for their existence is a hoax--an online conspiracy to add another middleman to the middle...Compounded interest? Do yourself a favor, lucky, pay with your credit card, and if they say you can't, FORGET THAT PARTICULAR CASINO! Any p.p.- only- casino is part of the conspiracy to fleece you left,right, and center--and then, tell me, what the hell does the house edge, odds, or basic strategy have to do with the final tally? Ho! K.I.S.S.(Keep It Simple Stupid):Pay- with- your- card- casinos and out with the Proc.Cyber conspiracy!
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| Posted by: Sevastou at September 19, 2001, 10:42 am | | Topic: Luckynugget? Forum: Winner Online |
Advice to luckystrike:stay away from Proc. Cyber as Mrracetrack and Jen have evidently(as in "evidence") made clear. Indeed, not only are Proc. Cyber and Firecash sister companies, but also Proc. Cyber and, guess who?--Paypal!-- are in cahoots(i.e., one in the same:what I like to call "the invisible rip technicians"). Compounded interest? These new age loan sharks are just, literally, beginning: and the reason for their existence is a hoax--an online conspiracy to add another middleman to the middle...Compounded interest? Do yourself a favor, lucky, pay with your credit card, and if they say you can't, FORGET THAT PARTICULAR CASINO! Any p.p.- only- casino is part of the conspiracy to fleece you left,right, and center--and then, tell me, what the hell does the house edge, odds, or basic strategy have to do with the final tally? Ho! K.I.S.S.(Keep It Simple Stupid):Pay- with- your- card- casinos and out with the Proc.Cyber conspiracy!
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| Posted by: jen at September 19, 2001, 4:32 am | | Topic: Luckynugget? Forum: Winner Online |
I have ceased to have any problems with Proc Cyber casinos only after I had quit them in disgust and started to boycott them a year ago.
Proc Cyber is good for nothing.
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| Posted by: colly at September 19, 2001, 1:28 am | | Topic: Luckynugget? Forum: Winner Online |
The casino's are fine but I have to concur with the proccyber comments-You will always get paid in the end through these guys but sometimes the incompetence and delays are truly trying.Not always, but for me enough times to be offputting. I have posted more than a few times on this board about Proccyber and you will find others by using the search facility.
The exception I would make is that in my experience they have always been ery polite-just somewhat random in their professionalism. At least they have the advantage that you can nearly always free call a proc cyber casino even from Oz.
Best of luck
regards
Colly
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| Posted by: Mrracetrack at September 19, 2001, 12:57 am | | Topic: Luckynugget? Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by 38Special:
No offense, but I KNOW you are way off the track MR. I been cashed thru Procyber lots of times and with almost all of the casinos they handle. I'm sure they had their share of problems, but certainly Not fair at all to blackball a healthy percentage of MG casinos. And as you all know, I'm not a big fan of MG.
20 out 22 negative comments.....
That isn't surprising at all, people don't generally post to say how great a service was, but you hear ALL the negatives.
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My comments about Proc Cyber are based on my personal experiences with them. I was locked out of all Proc Cyber casino's because I questioned an "unusual" charge on my credit card. I did NOT do a chargeback. The casino (RiverBelle) was not supportive to me at all in this matter, and said that Proc Cyber's decision was acceptable to them.
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| Posted by: 38Special at September 19, 2001, 12:22 am | | Topic: Luckynugget? Forum: Winner Online |
No offense, but I KNOW you are way off the track MR. I been cashed thru Procyber lots of times and with almost all of the casinos they handle. I'm sure they had their share of problems, but certainly Not fair at all to blackball a healthy percentage of MG casinos. And as you all know, I'm not a big fan of MG.
20 out 22 negative comments.....
That isn't surprising at all, people don't generally post to say how great a service was, but you hear ALL the negatives.
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| Posted by: luckystrike at September 18, 2001, 11:04 pm | | Topic: Luckynugget? Forum: Winner Online |
Perhaps it's better if i don't play at Lucky Nugget for now... Thanks for the feedback pals.
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| Posted by: Mrracetrack at September 18, 2001, 8:37 pm | | Topic: Luckynugget? Forum: Winner Online |
Proc Cyber is a poorly operated processing company, staffed by incompetent and clueless reps. Many, many complaints about them posted on numerous forums. Check out [URL=http://www.mycasinopinions.com,]and do a search for Proc Cyber; 20 of 22 comments report negative experiences.Do a search here, and the results speak for themselves. Firecash and Proc Cyber are "sister" company"s. Both are notorious for having extremely poor handling of customer complaints and inquiries. Question anything regarding a credit card charge, and you will be "locked out" of ALL casino's using Proc Cyber as their e-cash processor, and they will not even bother to respond to your e-mails after they lock you out. I would not play at any on line casino that uses Proc Cyber.
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| Posted by: 38Special at September 18, 2001, 6:05 pm | | Topic: Luckynugget? Forum: Winner Online |
Absolutely NO Problems here at all. Definately OK. They are part of the group that has Riverbelle,Gaming Club and Orbital.
I won some at Orbital and Lucky Nugget, Lost a little at the other two. Paid ery timely. 2, 3 weeks tops.
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| Posted by: luckystrike at September 18, 2001, 2:16 am | | Topic: Luckynugget? Forum: Winner Online |
Hi Pals,
I come to this one; Luckynugget and noticed that it is administered by Proc Cyber. Are they reliable? Do they pay? I have a policy; that of always checking a casino out before trying it..
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