| Posted by: Got2Bet at October 29, 2001, 9:04 pm | | Topic: Orbital's dealer can't count Forum: Winner Online |
It is odd, and it is plausible.
However, one has to remember that the client (ie the software on your machine) is responsible for:
1. Interpreting the results of a communication from the casino.
2. Displaying the correct results after receiving that communication.
Assume that somehow, someway, the communication got garbled in between, the client took the wrong information and displayed the wrong card. While not highly likely, it is possible that this could occur under rare circumstances. Such is the nature of communications.
When this happens, though, I would assume firstly that the connection was never good in the first place - and/or at the time this happened, there must have been some sort of a long pause or something as the client attempted to acknowledge the transmission from the server. Upon failing to receive this ACK, as it is called, the client then incorrectly displayed the results - if so then that is a bug that needs to be addressed.
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| Posted by: rj at October 29, 2001, 3:44 pm | | Topic: Orbital's dealer can't count Forum: Winner Online |
Here is the link to the 24 bit bitmap:
http://www.nwcair.com/clug/ok.zip
I'll keep it up for 2 days, since it's a large file and that site has limited bandwidth.
[This message has been edited by rj (edited 10-29-2001).]
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| Posted by: The_CPA at October 27, 2001, 3:22 pm | | Topic: Orbital's dealer can't count Forum: Winner Online |
Your right, that's strange too! Thanks for alidation RJ, at least we know it's not doctored and Jondo gives a plausible explanation as to how it can happen, other than why it paid out.
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| Posted by: rj at October 27, 2001, 11:34 am | | Topic: Orbital's dealer can't count Forum: Winner Online |
It was me that that happened to.
I can upload the 24-bit bitmap that I have from hitting "print screen" and pasting it into MS Paint on Monday. I was playing from work so the file is on my work machine. You all can use whatever graphical analysis programs you have on the bitmap and you'll see it's 100% legit. The reason this one is fuzzy is because it's a jpg.
In the end, winning or losing that one hand does not matter. I just posted that pic because I found it ery odd. Nothing more.
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| Posted by: jondo at October 27, 2001, 11:26 am | | Topic: Orbital's dealer can't count Forum: Winner Online |
A player reported a similar experience while playing VP at the Fiesta in Las Vegas. Dean Zamzow, creator of WinPoker offered this explanation and it might apply here.
This type of problem has occurred in WinPoker and it almost always is just
the card display is bad. Generally, the card image to be displayed fails
for some reason (short on resources or memory). After the failure, the last
image in memory is then displayed giving the appearance of 2 Aces of clubs
for instance. In reality, the actual internal card number (integer) could
be something else so the hand evaluation works fine, but the display is
incorrect. This could have been the case at the Fiesta if the last card was
in fact a deuce, but the display failed and the previous card was displayed
again.
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| Posted by: Dirk_Dangerous at October 26, 2001, 7:51 pm | | Topic: Orbital's dealer can't count Forum: Winner Online |
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LOL - but can you honestly say that you - or anyone - has ever seen that before at any Microgaming casino?
I'm still more inclined to believe that there was a creative hand modifying that picture.
I think you're right. I've looked at the cards, and they look crude compared to the rest of the graphics.
For what it's worth, I've never had a computer glitch at any Microgaming casino.
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| Posted by: Got2Bet at October 26, 2001, 6:59 pm | | Topic: Orbital's dealer can't count Forum: Winner Online |
Vicki -
Simply hit the PrtSc button on your keyboard (which should be above Insert), then go to Paint and select Paste.
Make sure you save the file in the JPG format, otherwise it will be way too large.
Mary -
The cards don't look any smaller on the new tables, at least not to me. The buttons on the VP do, however.
CPA -
Orbital is over a year old. Maybe as old as two years. My copy comes from like April of last year.
Dirk -
LOL - but can you honestly say that you - or anyone - has ever seen that before at any Microgaming casino?
I'm still more inclined to believe that there was a creative hand modifying that picture.
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| Posted by: The_CPA at October 26, 2001, 4:21 pm | | Topic: Orbital's dealer can't count Forum: Winner Online |
Boy, now I'm confused. My ersion is like the top copy. I got it shortly after it came out or I thought I did. Sure does look like you two have a prototype or something. LOL are you guys beta testing casinos!
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| Posted by: The Original Mary at October 26, 2001, 1:20 pm | | Topic: Orbital's dealer can't count Forum: Winner Online |
Just to kvetch, but what kind of design genius shrinks the cards to make room for *beverage holders* in an online casino table?
I mean, never mind the adding of a second deck, dumbing down the dealer so s/he can't add correctly...maybe the programmers are trying to stay employed with weird "upgrades".
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| Posted by: vickinz at October 26, 2001, 1:06 pm | | Topic: Orbital's dealer can't count Forum: Winner Online |
Can someone list all the steps to take a screenshot...simple instructions please else I wont understand them!
For the unlikely win big scenario LOL!
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| Posted by: Got2Bet at October 26, 2001, 9:35 am | | Topic: Orbital's dealer can't count Forum: Winner Online |
Come to think of it, the first picture DOES look like an updated ersion of Orbital - notice the beverage holders. I have the same one that you do, Sirius.
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| Posted by: The_CPA at October 26, 2001, 7:58 am | | Topic: Orbital's dealer can't count Forum: Winner Online |
Orbital,RoyalPlaza and Fortune Room all are the new ersion with the icky little cards! LOL As I recall, I think Mary plays a lot of ideo poker. She likes those cards about the size of a cardbox Flap! I think all of these have the upgraded Cyber Stud Poker as well. I don't play a lot of poker, but I did ok with this. I'd Have to look to see if it's random cards or set up like a slot slot machine. Nice Look and feel to the table though.
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| Posted by: Got2Bet at October 25, 2001, 10:56 pm | | Topic: Orbital's dealer can't count Forum: Winner Online |
Actually, from what I recall, Orbital has not upgraded to the "icky little cards" - this is a unique concept casino which has a space theme and a trackball-type interface which you use to scroll through available games.
Brownie points for uniqueness - but sadly, I had all sorts of trouble using that software on my machine.
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| Posted by: The_CPA at October 25, 2001, 9:23 pm | | Topic: Orbital's dealer can't count Forum: Winner Online |
Ihave played orbital quite a bit, also the Fortune Room and Royal Plaza are the same ersion. Only had one problem, one time with Orbital, I bet 10.00 and lost hand and it deducted 100.00. But,not to worry they made it right, no big deal. I pulled these rules off the help menu inside the casino. The new ersion doesn't offer multi hand......So the 2 Spades is either doctored or something went arie???
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You may receive a total of seven cards (unless you split, in which case you can receive seven cards per hand), as long as the alue of your hand does not exceed 21. If you go over 21 this is called a 'bust' and you automatically lose the hand. If you have not yet exceeded 21 after receiving seven cards you will automatically stay and the dealer will receive another card.
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| Posted by: The Original Mary at October 25, 2001, 8:57 pm | | Topic: Orbital's dealer can't count Forum: Winner Online |
Ooops....
OK, and Orbital is that new icky Microgaming software with the teeny weeny cards and it doesn't work on my computer most of the time?
Well, it's just lame, what can I say?
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| Posted by: Got2Bet at October 25, 2001, 8:37 pm | | Topic: Orbital's dealer can't count Forum: Winner Online |
Mary -
Orbital is Microgaming, trust me
English Harbour, Caribbean Gold, Silver Dollar, ORION and Superslots are Odds On, as are a few others if I am not mistaken. These are just the ones I know.
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| Posted by: Got2Bet at October 25, 2001, 7:16 pm | | Topic: Orbital's dealer can't count Forum: Winner Online |
Having not played blackjack for sometime I certainly would not know about either the 7-card limit or whether or not this was a multi-hand table, although it doesn't look like it.
Anyone else here who plays at Orbital and can ID this table?
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| Posted by: Sirius at October 25, 2001, 7:11 pm | | Topic: Orbital's dealer can't count Forum: Winner Online |
I'm not sure if it's true but I also heard that in the multi-hand blackjack game Microgaming have (which uses multiple decks), the player can't have more than a total of seven cards per hand (the software won't allow it). I thought that was a bit strange too.
The screenshot doesn't look like the single deck game I've got on my ersion of Orbital. So maybe they've got a multi-deck game now in the latest ersion.
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| Posted by: Sirius at October 25, 2001, 6:59 pm | | Topic: Orbital's dealer can't count Forum: Winner Online |
Yep, the player at first said he won the hand with the 15. Later on after it was fixed so he could carry on playing he wasn't so sure because in playcheck it shows a six as the last card.
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| Posted by: Got2Bet at October 25, 2001, 6:57 pm | | Topic: Orbital's dealer can't count Forum: Winner Online |
There's something wrong with that picture, for sure.
Microgaming deals a single-deck game - so how in the world could there be 2 Aces of Spades?
Note that the screen shows that the player was paid $10 also. So either this was a bug which they have to look into or this picture is doctored.
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| Posted by: Sirius at October 25, 2001, 6:42 pm | | Topic: Orbital's dealer can't count Forum: Winner Online |
http://www.nwcair.com/clug/ok.jpg
I found this on another board (I don't know if the pic will stay online for long).
Apparently, the game broke after that and it just paused whenever the player logged in (with the words 'refreshing last state...'). The game state was reset after he phoned support but now in playcheck the last Ace is shown as a 6 for a 21 dealer total!
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