| Posted by: Full Metal Jacket at November 29, 2001, 11:26 pm | | Topic: OPA-approved Las Vegas Casino is ripping people off Forum: Winner Online |
--One more update, i apologize
--They are now not concerned about where my money came from but are trying to say that me and my coworker are the same person and not really two people. Seems like a legitimate complaint as i'm sure abuse is a problem but this is not the case here. I told them up front that i signed up at work and so did a coworker when they locked my account before i even played. It was not a problem then. It is a problem now that i won 3400$
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| Posted by: Full Metal Jacket at November 29, 2001, 11:24 pm | | Topic: OPA-approved Las Vegas Casino is ripping people off Forum: Winner Online |
-Hello again
--I posted at casinomeister.com and my post has not since been approved or made public.
--I just today realized that you said to use that form Mary, and not at the OPA message board. My apologies for not reading correctly.
--Please let me know as soon as there is an update to the situation
-Jamie O
-fmjcasino@hotmail.com
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| Posted by: CasinoNow at November 15, 2001, 10:56 pm | | Topic: OPA-approved Las Vegas Casino is ripping people off Forum: Winner Online |
Very true Jetset. I had missed that reference until you pointed it out. Is this something that has carried over from a previous disagreement?
don_man, wasn't trying to pin it all on you. Hope it wasn't taken that way.
Jerry Garner
http://www.casinonow.net
http://www.gamingbroadcast.com
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| Posted by: Jetset at November 15, 2001, 10:51 pm | | Topic: OPA-approved Las Vegas Casino is ripping people off Forum: Winner Online |
To use a well-worn but true cliche, two wrongs don't make a right and a message board is rarely enhanced by exchanges such as this. But in fairness don_man was (over) reacting to Bonus Mania's post in which there appeared exhortations to stick his head in a toilet and a sprinkling of endearments such as "moron" and "scumbag"
Cool down, guys!
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| Posted by: don_man at November 15, 2001, 12:59 pm | | Topic: OPA-approved Las Vegas Casino is ripping people off Forum: Winner Online |
lol
Mr. Bonus GAYnia, i wish i owned one of these casinos or even worked for one coz i am sure they are making tonnes of money from punk-ass losers like YOU. lol.
get a f-ing life.
i play for fun so even if i lose the measly 200 bucks that i might spend per month, this is not my raass life so i aint gonna be crying like a baby on the message boards every day. you spend so much time posting about losing, maybe you should take the time to go buy a few books of amazon and learn to play ... lol
PUNK!!!
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| Posted by: The Original Mary at November 13, 2001, 12:07 pm | | Topic: OPA-approved Las Vegas Casino is ripping people off Forum: Winner Online |
Hmm, I can see the casino's point here too, looks like they suspect that you might be your co-worker signing up twice (same ip address). Such a scamster could have multiple PayPal accounts for multiple email addresses.
OK, bop on over to http://www.onlineplayersassociation.com/contactUs.asp
and send the OPA an email describing the situation. We'll need your name and explicit permission to get involved in this. Tell 'em Mary sent ya.
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| Posted by: Got2Bet at November 13, 2001, 9:20 am | | Topic: OPA-approved Las Vegas Casino is ripping people off Forum: Winner Online |
Mary -
While I don't disagree with you, I should point out that the OPA should be aware, and consider, ANY information which is made available to them considering an OPA member casino, not just when a complaint is directly addressed to them.
A non-OPA casino, I agree a complaint from a member is required. But for a member casino everything that is in the public domain or registered in a complaint to the OPA must be considered - especially considering that information in the public domain is generally used in determining whether or not to accept a casino as an OPA member.
FMJ, thanks for coming forward, it certainly makes it evident that this issue needs to be resolved and hopefully the casino will reconsider and fix the situation.
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| Posted by: Bonus Mania at November 13, 2001, 12:42 am | | Topic: OPA-approved Las Vegas Casino is ripping people off Forum: Winner Online |
FMJ,
I hope you accept my sincere apologies for posting about this issue without asking your consent. When I read your co-worker's post, I was angered by the direspect shown to you by the casino, and I thought your co-worker meant to make this case public. I was obviously mistaken and I apologize.
Thank you
BM
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| Posted by: Full Metal Jacket at November 13, 2001, 12:02 am | | Topic: OPA-approved Las Vegas Casino is ripping people off Forum: Winner Online |
-I am the so called "complainant". I have not filed any complaints because it is yet early. It's been about 2 weeks since i sent a paypal deposit of 10000.
-I am more into sports betting than card gambling. I personally believe the 20$ bonus deals are a waste of time (no offense intended to anyone) as i'd rather win 1000 or lose 1000 on any given deal. A coworker who i will not name here without his permission but many of you know him from other forums pointed out this offer to me. He signed up to this casino and turned a small profit and was paid in a few days. After seeing him do so well i signed up and made a deposit. They emailed me to ask why i was on the same IP as someone else. I emailed them and stating that i did know why that was the case and if there was a problem with that i could either play at home or they could simply return my deposit if there was problem. I was told "It's fine if you play at work, many people do" I promptly answered and they unlocked my acc... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Jetset at November 12, 2001, 10:39 pm | | Topic: OPA-approved Las Vegas Casino is ripping people off Forum: Winner Online |
Levy's alleged use of the OPA name unfortunately calls for some action in clarifying this "money laundering" (?) statement by his casino imo.
Bonus Mania should provide details of his/her allegations in terms of which message board and who is complaining so that OPA can get to grips with facts and not speculation and hearsay. Either that or persuade the original accuser to come forward so that this troubling issue can be dealt with.
On the basis of the ery sketchy hearsay information on which Bonus Mania has initiated this thread I would say that Jerry's explanation is the most plausible.
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| Posted by: The Original Mary at November 12, 2001, 9:51 pm | | Topic: OPA-approved Las Vegas Casino is ripping people off Forum: Winner Online |
If it is a legit complaint, the OPA can't do *anything* without the permission of the player involved. Because:
a.We don't have enough information to even identify the player.
b.It would be rude. The cavalry leaping in might damage ongoing negotiations. In fact, Bonus Mania should not be posting about other people's complaints from a board that explicity requests that information posted there not be reposted elsewhere.
c.Just asking for some kind of statement or proof of the origin of the money is not the same as accusing the player of money laundering; it's covering the casino's butt and passing on our own dear government's accusation of money laundering. We don't have enough details about this request, or when it was requested (during the deposit process? after wagering and winning? before a withdrawal?)to judge its appropriateness.
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| Posted by: Got2Bet at November 12, 2001, 7:37 pm | | Topic: OPA-approved Las Vegas Casino is ripping people off Forum: Winner Online |
OPA Mary -
While I agree with your reasoning, there is something just not right about that quote, and I really doubt that Bonus Mania or the player would likely have made that up.
Bonus Mania - either post a link to the original post, or have the player file an OPA complaint - or file the complaint with me. I'm sure we all want to determine just how legitimate this complaint is.
But assuming that it is a legit complaint (and I am), I would expect the OPA to take some pretty harsh action. It's like accusing the PLAYER of money laundering.
Then they have to explain THIS statement:
Quote:
"The president of the Online Players Association already knows us for over three years, and we are one of the pioneers in this industry with over two hundred sites live, and five years in business, and an exceptional record of not owing any money to anyone. "
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| Posted by: The_CPA at November 12, 2001, 7:28 pm | | Topic: OPA-approved Las Vegas Casino is ripping people off Forum: Winner Online |
Your on this banking thing Jerry, your right on again. Even a 10k transfer within the states gets tagged and receives special attention from the Feds. My only disagreement is that 10 grand isn't a lot of money. It is to many of us, especially to gamble with!
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| Posted by: CasinoNow at November 12, 2001, 5:22 pm | | Topic: OPA-approved Las Vegas Casino is ripping people off Forum: Winner Online |
Well, without knowing more details than what are made available here, all I can do is speculate, but that seems to go along with the rest of the thread so I'll go ahead and toss my thoughts out there.
The one thing that struck me more than anything was the amount of $10,000 - which got my attention much quicker than the problem being posted. Not that its a great deal of money, but if this is a US Player, it is the exact amount of money that one is allowed to transmit out of the country without having to file extensive tax reports.
Now, there have been a large number of crack downs on banking systems recently due to the "Threat Conditions" (I get so tired of hearing those words), particularly with offshore banks that have a history of laundering funds. Again, this is further speculation, but if Mr. Levy's reputation is true, it wouldn't be too suprising if he were using one of these banks, and it could be entirely possible that any amount of $10,000 or more now requires some t... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Bonus Mania at November 12, 2001, 5:10 pm | | Topic: OPA-approved Las Vegas Casino is ripping people off Forum: Winner Online |
Mary,
I have no problem with the OPA. I wasn't even discussing the OPA. I have a problem with an online casino asking a player the origin of his funds that he used for a PayPal deposit and then denying him his winnings because he wouldn't tell them. Whether this player asks for OPA's help or not, and whether OPA helps him or not, is between him and the OPA. I am just concerned about online casinos using every and any absurd excuse to deny players their winnings. The trend started by Tropika has spread to the whole online casino industry. If you lose, they keep your losses, and if you win, you get your deposit back. WOW! What a baragain!
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| Posted by: The Original Mary at November 12, 2001, 4:08 pm | | Topic: OPA-approved Las Vegas Casino is ripping people off Forum: Winner Online |
"Hey, Claude? Yeah, I hear you have a player you're not paying. His name? I don't know. How I found out about it? Oh, Bonus Mania posted about a post on another board. The other board? I don't know that either."
Yeah, right, c'mon, get real.
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| Posted by: The Original Mary at November 12, 2001, 2:20 pm | | Topic: OPA-approved Las Vegas Casino is ripping people off Forum: Winner Online |
Spear, with all due respect, here is Bonus Mania reposting another players complaint form another board, both unnamed.
I'm not jumping through any hoops on this one when if there is a real player out there with a real complaint that player can file an OPA complaint through our nice complaint process and we will get on Claude Levy's butt then.
Bonus Mania has posted false statements about the OPA before just to start discussion, and life is too short for this level of bs.
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| Posted by: Got2Bet at November 12, 2001, 10:03 am | | Topic: OPA-approved Las Vegas Casino is ripping people off Forum: Winner Online |
Quote:
"If you cannot justify the origin of the funds you have used to make the deposit of $ 10,000, we cannot allow you to operate the account and will reimburse you the original deposit, but nothing else, and the sign up bonus will be cancelled."
What kind of total BULL$#!T is this???
OPA Committee, if this is indeed Claude Levy's group, you better have another think real quick.
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| Posted by: Bonus Mania at November 12, 2001, 7:32 am | | Topic: OPA-approved Las Vegas Casino is ripping people off Forum: Winner Online |
don_man,
Maybe you should find the nearest toilet and stick your head in it.
The only people who would benefit if I stop complaining are the owners of crooked online casinos. So you are either an online-casino-owner, or one one of them sent you here to stop me from exposing the fact that you don't pay your winners.
Maybe you and your employers should pay up your debts to people.
Gambling is my cup of tea. I can handle it. It is morons like you and your employers who buy online casinos that you obviously can't afford, and can't pay your players, who should get out of this business.
I will stop complaining, when you start paying up.
don-man, you little scumbag. Who sent you here? Why do you want players to stop complaining? What do you have to hide? If you had your act together, you wouldn't be so scared of people talking. If your business was straight, you wouldn't be so scraed of the light of day.
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| Posted by: don_man at November 12, 2001, 7:08 am | | Topic: OPA-approved Las Vegas Casino is ripping people off Forum: Winner Online |
why is bonus mania always in a tangle with one casino or another ... whether directly or indirectly. i mean .. complaints are necessary but he's always complaining about caisnos ripping off himself or someone that he knows.
maybe online gambling is not your cup of tea and you should try to find your nearest horseracing or greyhound racing track and see if you get ripped off less.
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| Posted by: Mrracetrack at November 12, 2001, 12:10 am | | Topic: OPA-approved Las Vegas Casino is ripping people off Forum: Winner Online |
Bonus Mania,
I would think there is a lot more to this
than your letting on. It also appears that
you have a personal "beef" with the OPA, and you are trying to discredit them with your
post. There has to be more to this than what
your indicating.
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