| Posted by: vegascasinomaster at January 14, 2002, 2:50 pm | | Topic: Holy Grail. Forum: Winner Online |
[I am talking about any numbers hitting exactly 34 times. no one has gotten past 7 of 38 yet, so i think this is a safe bet. 1 online tester is 3/4 of the way thru the zuma tester book, and flatbetting is up over 1200 units. The only way to fail is for the numbers to hit evenly, and be spread out ALL THE TIME. no repeats, none of the same numbers on the scoreboard, or every number hitting at least once in 50 spins, ALL THE TIME. Please e mail me. thks hughQUOTE]Originally posted by babe:
Vegascasinomesiter, I am writing this not to degrade you but to help you.
I have seen a lot of people though the years come and go (they always end up going)with systems that they think are the holy grail. What you have found is a system that will win more short run sessions that lose, but in the long run, the loses will be bigger than the wins. I say this without even seeing your system. This is because all these systems that come and go have similiar results. Before you risk another dime playing, I recomm... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: The Original Mary at January 14, 2002, 10:36 am | | Topic: Holy Grail. Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by joeyl:
Hugh.
Instead of wasteing your time with emails 30 minutes long..
Go join Ladbrokes or someone and make your Username Aristonandonandon.Let us know when you've done it...
When you slap thier arses hard enough to get your name on their big-winners list.Come post the URL and we can all have a looky see.
Hey, after I see this, then I'll read whatsisface's system posts.
We can argue maths all day long; and mechanical wheels wearing out doesn't apply to cyberspace. joeyl's right, it's easy enough to prove one's system to scoffers with documented wins.
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| Posted by: babe at January 14, 2002, 9:49 am | | Topic: Holy Grail. Forum: Winner Online |
Vegascasinomesiter, I am writing this not to degrade you but to help you.
I have seen a lot of people though the years come and go (they always end up going)with systems that they think are the holy grail. What you have found is a system that will win more short run sessions that lose, but in the long run, the loses will be bigger than the wins. I say this without even seeing your system. This is because all these systems that come and go have similiar results. Before you risk another dime playing, I recommend that you have your system analysed by some well known gaming mathematicians such as Stanford Wong. If after doing so and you are still not convinced and you want to play your system for a living, come back here in a couple of years and let us know how your are doing.
Roulette does follow the odds. If each number shows up once in 38 spins, then the wheel has defied the odds as the chances of this happening are astronomical, 2 quadrilion to 1. If you want to bet that any 10 number... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: HKGambler at January 13, 2002, 7:57 pm | | Topic: Holy Grail. Forum: Winner Online |
I should thank egascasinomaster, without whose post, it would not give rise to the more aluable posts about roulette by Dave R and HKPlayer.
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| Posted by: vegascasinomaster at January 13, 2002, 5:31 pm | | Topic: Holy Grail. Forum: Winner Online |
Babe, i need your e mail to be able to e mail you.......
mine is egascasinomaster@hotmail.com. Hugh.
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| Posted by: Dave R at January 13, 2002, 1:54 pm | | Topic: Holy Grail. Forum: Winner Online |
Anyone who seriously wants to beat the game of roulette, professionally, should read "Beating The Wheel" by Russel T Barnhart.
Barnhart is a well respected authority on probability and statistics, and Edward Thorp's book "The Mathematics of Gambling"
gives Barnhart credit for this.
Barnhart's method is to locate biased roulette wheels. His book was copyright 1992.
Ten years have gone by, and roulette wheel manufacturers, most notably John Huxley Ltd, claim they have gone out of thier way to eliminate any possible bias.
NOTHING COULD BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH.
Think about this for a second: If Huxley designs a perfect roulette wheel (a wheel that doesn't wear out), than Huxley won't be able to sell its wheels to that casino in the future. Companies like Huxley secretly want thier wheels to wear out eventually. The success of thier business actually depends on this. After all, after 5 years, they will contact the casino AGAIN to sell more.
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| Posted by: Trader at January 13, 2002, 12:06 pm | | Topic: Holy Grail. Forum: Winner Online |
I am not looking to insult anyone here because I am religious myself, but arguing about someone's favorite gambling system is no more productive than arguing religion with a radical fundamentalist. Nothing is going to change a closed mind. Mathematical precision and logic are wasted on these people.
On a similar unhappy note, my winning streak apparently ended on the stroke of the new year. I had been winning, not just every month, but at every casino every time I played. Sometimes I had to make additional deposits and play some high stakes hands to catch up, but all through October, November, and December I just kept winning. I was winning more than the bonus every time. Now I have to pay taxes on an extra $40,000 from last year.
I lost at Sands of the Caribbean, although I did win enough at William Hill and Omni to make up for it. I just had to make so many deposits that I ran up against the Cryptologic weekly limit of $3500, so there was no great comeback at the Sands. I also got cl... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: HKPlayer at January 13, 2002, 10:20 am | | Topic: Holy Grail. Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by egascasinomaster:
.....Roulette never follows the odds stupid.......if it did then once in a while all the numbers would hit once in every 38 spins, JUST LIKE THE ODDS SAY THEY WILL. BUT THAT NEVER HAPPENS. GO AHEAD AND TRY. Record 1292 spins as example, each number according to the ODDS should hit 34 times. I BET YOU CAN NOT EVEN GET 10 OF THE NUMBERS TO HIT 34 TIMES..........
Sorry egascasinomaster, but it seems that "YOU" are the real idiot:
1) The casino never allow anyone to play their games on their tables if one has the ability to earn money from them in long term. For example, many casino does not allow card-counting players. In this case, does anyone know if there is any system prohibited in Roulette in casino? I don't think there is one. So it means if you have a system - yes, you may be able to earn moeny in short term, but losing in long term.
2) You said ".....Roulette never follows the odds stupid.......if it ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: joeyl at January 13, 2002, 8:24 am | | Topic: Holy Grail. Forum: Winner Online |
Hugh.
Instead of wasteing your time with emails 30 minutes long..
Go join Ladbrokes or someone and make your Username Aristonandonandon.Let us know when you've done it...
When you slap thier arses hard enough to get your name on their big-winners list.Come post the URL and we can all have a looky see.
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| Posted by: vegascasinomaster at January 13, 2002, 8:09 am | | Topic: Holy Grail. Forum: Winner Online |
OK, I AGREE...HUGH. E MAIL ME.
Quote: Originally Posted by babe:
How about win or give 3x the lost back?
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| Posted by: vegascasinomaster at January 13, 2002, 8:07 am | | Topic: Holy Grail. Forum: Winner Online |
You are an idiot. thats why i live in egas and make a living gambling AND YOU DO NOT, AHhahahahahahahahahaha. Roulette never follows the odds stupid.......if it did then once in a while all the numbers would hit once in every 38 spins, JUST LIKE THE ODDS SAY THEY WILL. BUT THAT NEVER HAPPENS. GO AHEAD AND TRY. Record 1292 spins as example, each number according to the ODDS should hit 34 times. I BET YOU CAN NOT EVEN GET 10 OF THE NUMBERS TO HIT 34 TIMES.........HEY WHATS WRONG???? WHAT HAPPENED TO THOSE ODDS OF YOURS??? There is no memory in roulette, so the numbers do not know the odds. That 5 that just hit 3 times in a row broke the odds. the 34 that has gone 145 spins in a row without hitting once just broke the odds. WHY? I have 7 testers from the letstalkwinning board testing thousands of spins on this, and myself, and 1 using the zuma testing book. ARE WE ALL WRONG? WELL IF I AM WINNING, AND EVERYONE WHO PLAYS THIS METHOD IS WINNING, THEN BEING WRONG IS GOOD.
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| Posted by: HKGambler at January 12, 2002, 11:01 pm | | Topic: Holy Grail. Forum: Winner Online |
Nobody, with sufficient mathematical background and gambling knowledge would listen a single word you said, egascasinomaster. Why do I bother to criticize you? Because you are shamefully manupulating some false phenomena to cheat & to freak people out of their ignorance.
Everyone knows that roulette's outcomes are independent events, unless on biased wheels. And you shamelessly claim to make judgements & claim to win, based on previous outcomes. And you shamelessly ask people to western union you.
As far as casino gambling, no betting system will dare to defeat the odds in the long run. Smarters will be able to lose less & gain much fun. Players by large will be destined to lose the % predetermined by the mathematical odds. Some fewer players may win sometimes, but they are to be counteracted by the losses of some more others at the same time. Just as Traders found it hard to lose, to be offset by Dirk Dangerous found it uneasy to win in the previous year. LOL.
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| Posted by: vegascasinomaster at January 12, 2002, 6:29 pm | | Topic: Holy Grail. Forum: Winner Online |
Here is an e mail from 1 of the system testers from the letstalkwinning board.http://vegascasinomaster.tripod.com Hello, I have found some errors in my programming. I have corrected the
errors and come up with new correct results. I was shooting for 300 sessions
total and ran these results through a second time to erify. I also manually
played some random sessions by hand to double check them (which I should
have done in the beginning). I set it up to play 40 spins after reading the
first 25. I was unable to program in the wait for a paper win before
betting. So out of 12000 hands or spins bet. Lost 4929 Won 7071 or a
58.92% win rate. I am still experimenting with a progression that will
insure a profit and end of session with just a few hits. Since it is nearly
a certainty that the hits will come. I read on the boards that you have come
up with some changes or tweaks for your system? Can you explain what they
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| Posted by: eek at January 12, 2002, 3:15 pm | | Topic: Holy Grail. Forum: Winner Online |
Why don't you keep it a secret and gamble yourself up to couple of $million?
Then you can come back here and take the mickey out of us all....for a second time.
I reckon you're more Monty Python than Indiana Jones with this one.
[This message has been edited by eek (edited 01-13-2002).]
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| Posted by: vegascasinomaster at January 12, 2002, 2:04 pm | | Topic: Holy Grail. Forum: Winner Online |
I HAVE THE HOLY GRAIL OF ROULETTE. SO as long as the online casino pays you will win, or its free. http://vegascasinomaster.tripod.com
This has been tested by board members from all over the world. You win %61 of al bets on 1/2 of the board, and win %87 of all sessions played. A session is 75 spins. My e mail is egascasinomaster@hotmail.com . western union me in lasvegas and have the system today. Win or it is free.
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