| Posted by: eek at January 16, 2002, 11:00 am | | Topic: A Player's Experience After 2 Months Forum: Winner Online |
Dave,
Are you positive that they they dont get bank statements to reconcile the logs to?
Otherwise the entire exercise would be pointless.
It would be like PWC proving the number of sheep a farmer has, by looking at a photograph of a flock of sheep the farmer had sent them each quarter.
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| Posted by: Dave R at January 16, 2002, 10:09 am | | Topic: A Player's Experience After 2 Months Forum: Winner Online |
8 out of the 15 emails I sent to PWC were concerning the Tropika family of casinos, and John Ashbee.
Its in this regard that PWC deserves enormous credit, since I believe Microgaming had
NO INTENTIONS of paying these players, and that PWC persuaded MGS to do so.
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| Posted by: Dave R at January 16, 2002, 10:04 am | | Topic: A Player's Experience After 2 Months Forum: Winner Online |
Doug said:
Remember the auditing is a result of OVERALL payouts. There are tricks involved
(in my opinion) with the Microgaming software. [Endquote]
I am extremely suspicious of Microgaming software, and have contact PWC on over 15 occasions (Hantie Bouer in Johannesburg) asking her to terminate thier relationship.
PWC refuses to listen to me.
PWC believes the logs are on the up and up.
I explained to PWC that its possible that the logs are being MANUFACTURED or MANIPULATED before they are given to PWC.
PWC simply determines the payout ratio.
HOWEVER, they use Microgaming's own logs to do so. Therefore, IF Microgaming were a dishonest outfit, and rigged its audit trail/gaming logs, PWC would have no way of knowing. PWC has no proof. They are simply taking Microgaming's word for it.
PWC should conduct ongoing, random audits in realtime. This would prove who's telling the truth. Otherwise they shouldn't get involved at all in this industry.... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Jetset at January 15, 2002, 9:40 pm | | Topic: A Player's Experience After 2 Months Forum: Winner Online |
And not perpetuating the offensive behaviour of course....
Lesson learned nicky - now's a good time to lurk and learn and contribute. If that is not your agenda and you are merely trying to ingratiate yourself for another spam run then try Casino Billboard - that's what that section is for.
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| Posted by: HKGambler at January 15, 2002, 9:12 pm | | Topic: A Player's Experience After 2 Months Forum: Winner Online |
I felt your sincerity. Certainly I'll be showing a warm smile to your future posts. I know many others in this board would be feeling the same.
Confucius said, "Nothing is greater than confessing a mistake and to correct it."
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| Posted by: nickyboot8 at January 15, 2002, 10:25 am | | Topic: A Player's Experience After 2 Months Forum: Winner Online |
I am afraid that I have to confess to that too. A rather desperate attempt at damage limitation. There you have it, all my secrets out. I was honestly only trying my best to make an impression in a new job. You have my word that I won't be trying it again because quite frankly I am not ery good at playing the game. Sorry again! Can we all just be friends?
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| Posted by: HKGambler at January 15, 2002, 10:12 am | | Topic: A Player's Experience After 2 Months Forum: Winner Online |
"My fingers were burned and when I saw people mocking me"
I could sense that you had that feeling. Sympathy for you.
But will you confess also that redrouge7 was another you?
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| Posted by: nickyboot8 at January 15, 2002, 2:11 am | | Topic: A Player's Experience After 2 Months Forum: Winner Online |
Probably you will all miss this because its been a while but I would just like to apologize if I offended anybody with my inept spamming. I should have done this in the first place but I didn't. The truth is, I have just started a job here and was trying to make an impression. It was probably the most ridiculous thing I have ever done in the last twelve months and can quite categorically state I won't be doing it again. My fingers were burned and when I saw people mocking me I wanted to mock back. So please, let this not be a slight on myself, yourself or my company...I AM SORRY. And I won't be doing it again....I promise.
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| Posted by: DougCain at January 11, 2002, 10:34 am | | Topic: A Player's Experience After 2 Months Forum: Winner Online |
I understand your position. This is where I was caught. I am an addict.
Here's what I do now. I primarily play BJ using the standard method for optimal chances. This keeps me pretty even and occasionally I get ahead. When ahead I jump to a few of my favorite slots and try my luck there (get rich quick scheme). If this works and I do hit then I may go back to BJ to see if it is still playing fair. If not I cashout and head for another casino. If I don't get rich quick, I return to BJ and keep playing. If I run dry, I go to another casino and start over.
Scarfing on the bonuses as posted in another article works well too with many casinos but is time consuming.
Quote: Originally Posted by AmateurSleuth:
My ideal in gambling is to minimize my losses. And occasionally cash out nicely.
That means, cashing out the $25, $50, or $100, and not reversing it. It also means using bonuses wisely, and seldom. Most often, it means making deposits w/o bonuses, eliminatin... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: DougCain at January 11, 2002, 10:20 am | | Topic: A Player's Experience After 2 Months Forum: Winner Online |
I don't understand this comment. Why the attack on my reply? What makes you so smug? You base your opinion on a short note I make? Tell me wise one, what is the basis of your opinion here?
Quote: Originally Posted by luckystrike:
Doug, you must still not be learing the tricks... You will never emerge as a winner with gambling.
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| Posted by: AmateurSleuth at January 11, 2002, 9:59 am | | Topic: A Player's Experience After 2 Months Forum: Winner Online |
My ideal in gambling is to minimize my losses. And occasionally cash out nicely.
That means, cashing out the $25, $50, or $100, and not reversing it. It also means using bonuses wisely, and seldom. Most often, it means making deposits w/o bonuses, eliminating the "wager through" requirements. If I have a "nice win", then cash out, and make another deposit, if I want to continue playing.
My number one obstacle, is not "knowing when to quit". I know that already. It is logging off, and getting up from the computer. Shutting down. If anyone finds a "magic formula" for that, I'll buy.
On the other hand, if the idea is to play as long as possible, taking any bonuses (except those where you must "earn" the bonus) is the best possible method. If I simply want to play a while, w/o expecting to be paid if I win, then any bonus from any casino will do (just about, there are some minimum standards).
AS
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| Posted by: DougCain at January 11, 2002, 7:15 am | | Topic: A Player's Experience After 2 Months Forum: Winner Online |
I totally agree with this observation. The Microgaming has misleading promotions and irritating hidden rules. I too question their BJ dealer when the stakes get higher. I also find that my odds are better when I have no money in transition to be cashed out.
Remember the auditing is a result of OVERALL payouts. There are tricks involved (in my opinion) with the Microgaming software.
Casino-On-Net is far best for odds but limited games. I still have the same experience with odds when pending cashins exist.
I gamble online A LOT. I lost a lot in the begining but am learning the tricks.
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| Posted by: Jetset at January 10, 2002, 9:17 pm | | Topic: A Player's Experience After 2 Months Forum: Winner Online |
All ery amusing, and I've enjoyed the laughs on this inept spammer, but don't overlook the "less than honest marketing efforts" which he/she now seeks to shrug off as a big joke.
I would have expected better from the upper echelon casinos involved.
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| Posted by: Dirk_Dangerous at January 10, 2002, 2:18 pm | | Topic: A Player's Experience After 2 Months Forum: Winner Online |
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And dirk_dangerous, I'd bet my mortgage that I ain't as dumb as you.
Sure, and with the use of words such as “ain’t”, it’s easy to see you have a astly superior intellect.
As the wise man said, "actions speak louder than words."
And, of course, I'm not the one wearing egg on my face.
Care for salt, pepper or maybe a little ketchup?
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| Posted by: redrouge7 at January 10, 2002, 11:07 am | | Topic: A Player's Experience After 2 Months Forum: Winner Online |
No, the correct use of pukka would be to say, "this forum is PUKKA" meaning it is excellent. For example, Nicky may have said that one of his casinos is pukka, but unfortunately the young lad has had his fingers nobbled in his attempts to impress the boss. Unfortunately for the young whipper snapper, he will not be hearing the end of it around the office for some time. I can only apologise for his ineptitude but he is only young and will learn given time.
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| Posted by: The Original Mary at January 10, 2002, 10:31 am | | Topic: A Player's Experience After 2 Months Forum: Winner Online |
Actually, they're perfectly fine Microgaming sites. Vegas Country (formerly Grand Opry) added several Power Pokers and slots.
Their typical "winner gets it sticky bonus" of 20% works out to 10%.
They have the Microgaming loyalty program, the Playcheck and Cashcheck.
So they're good enough casinos, I'm disappointed to see such ham-handed and less than honest marketing efforts.
Nicky and RedRouge, as the two of you seem quite...pukka? is that right? Can you tell me what "dosh" means?
Best wishes from the Colonies....
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| Posted by: redrouge7 at January 10, 2002, 10:13 am | | Topic: A Player's Experience After 2 Months Forum: Winner Online |
cheer up nicky pal, worse things happen at sea daft lad. Good to see you got the stiff upper lip and your spirits up an keeping the flag flying high...try an be a bit brighter next time and don't give the Americans easy bait. By the way, you sites are absolute garbage
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| Posted by: nickyboot8 at January 10, 2002, 8:05 am | | Topic: A Player's Experience After 2 Months Forum: Winner Online |
"Thanks Boot for providing such a gag. BTW, Boot, what a strange surname! "
No problems HK, I am sure I will be providing plenty of giggles in the future too....as incompetent as I am. Just wish my boss had seen the funny side!!!! Still, as I tried to explain to him, notoriety breeds familiarity! And for your information, I come from a long and proud line of Boots dating back to biblical times...how we have lasted as long as this I do not know. And if anyone wants to know what I REALLY think about this email me on nickyboot8@hotmail.com and we'll have another laugh at my expense. Laters people.
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| Posted by: nickyboot8 at January 10, 2002, 7:26 am | | Topic: A Player's Experience After 2 Months Forum: Winner Online |
Glad I could be of service gentlemen and provide you all with a good laugh. Never let it be said that an Englishmen cannot laugh at himself. By the way, did I ever tell you about *********.com? Out of this world I tell you! And dirk_dangerous, I'd bet my mortgage that I ain't as dumb as you.
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| Posted by: Got2Bet at January 9, 2002, 8:13 pm | | Topic: A Player's Experience After 2 Months Forum: Winner Online |
LMFAO - Laughing My (any word with F, like Fat) Ass Off...
ROTFLMAO - Rolling On The Floor Laughing My Ass Off
Whaddya - a commonly used corruption of "What do you"
OMW - On My Way - as in I'm on my way to Hong Kong
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| Posted by: HKGambler at January 9, 2002, 8:02 pm | | Topic: A Player's Experience After 2 Months Forum: Winner Online |
Oh guys & gals, I can't find the meanings of: LMFAO, rotflmao, whaddya..., after looking thru 3 dictionaries!
Thanks Boot for providing such a gag. BTW, Boot, what a strange surname!
Mr, how much do I owe you?
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| Posted by: The_CPA at January 9, 2002, 1:19 pm | | Topic: A Player's Experience After 2 Months Forum: Winner Online |
Roflmao, My stomach Hurts!
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| Posted by: grantt at January 9, 2002, 1:08 pm | | Topic: A Player's Experience After 2 Months Forum: Winner Online |
I'm guessing most people lose 8 or 9 times out of ten when they go to landbased casinos and chalk it up to fun and the price of the entertainment they had. When these same people lose at online casino they suddenly become rigged, fixed and unbelievable loses.
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