| Posted by: Jetset at January 17, 2002, 4:28 am | | Topic: The Casino Online Forum: Winner Online |
Mea culpa on the check - I made the common mistake on the url. I note that the announcement that they are closed is dated 16 January btw.
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| Posted by: Jydeman at January 17, 2002, 12:34 am | | Topic: The Casino Online Forum: Winner Online |
TCO is down for good. Yesterday in chat at Gonegambling - Larry from TCO explained what happened. RTG closed them down for not paying royalties. The reason why they got in trouble was (of course) because of massive chargebacks.
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| Posted by: AmateurSleuth at January 16, 2002, 11:45 pm | | Topic: The Casino Online Forum: Winner Online |
I still can't get TCO to come up. I typed in the url and couldn't get it, then I used the WOL link, and it didn't come up then either.
What url did you use Jetser?
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| Posted by: Jetset at January 16, 2002, 10:33 pm | | Topic: The Casino Online Forum: Winner Online |
My goodness Grantt you are not difficult to block in your ridiculous and continuous attempts to attack me on this board.
First off you are quoting way out of date and context with the present situation - and what makes it worse is that you know it and are doing it deliberately. That destroys any credibility YOU might have had.
Secondly - note early in this thread the use of the word "temporary" in regard to thecasinoonline closure. In fact the site was operating again when I checked a couple of hours back. I am not defending this casino but let's get the facts right and not cloud a serious issue with dumb personal attacks like yours.
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| Posted by: The_CPA at January 16, 2002, 8:30 pm | | Topic: The Casino Online Forum: Winner Online |
I agree with all of the above with one addition.
There are simply too many. The player base cannot support this many casinos successfully regardless of how good the management is. They should put a moritorium on new casinos until the player base catches up. Needless to, many of these problems would go away if all the casinos had appropriate customer bases.
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| Posted by: joeyl at January 16, 2002, 8:21 pm | | Topic: The Casino Online Forum: Winner Online |
So an individual can buy software without having to prove they have the funding to do the software provider justice?
If thats the case,then they (rtg) deserve all they get..(in my opinion)
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| Posted by: AmateurSleuth at January 16, 2002, 8:08 pm | | Topic: The Casino Online Forum: Winner Online |
All of that is true. But the ONLY reason the casino is taken off-line is because they are not paying license fees. They can be the biggest bums in the world to their players, but as long as the license fees are paid, they can continue to operate.
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| Posted by: The Original Mary at January 16, 2002, 7:55 pm | | Topic: The Casino Online Forum: Winner Online |
Add some math errors--like taking action too big to pay off-- you can get some big winners on Blackjack at $500 a hand. Then throw 20%, 30%, 50% bonuses at players...
The house started gambling, and chasing its losses, and lost.
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| Posted by: Mrracetrack at January 16, 2002, 7:16 pm | | Topic: The Casino Online Forum: Winner Online |
Joeyl,
Jondo pretty much summed it up correctly.
Add to that, the loss of a big part of
the revenue that came from credit cards,
which are getting much harder to use,
especially in the USA. This, combined with
"poor management decisions" on many of the
"bonus offers", have created the current
situation.
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| Posted by: jondo at January 16, 2002, 5:28 pm | | Topic: The Casino Online Forum: Winner Online |
Great software, great games, good bonus,slow pay. They aren't making money with that combination so they change the odds on the games, losing some business and still are losing money and still slow pay. They tighten the rules on bonuses, lose more business. Some casinos are financially strapped from lost business stiff or hassle some winners. Complaints are ignored, rumors start. Players don't sign up others cashout causing a run on the bank. Crash!
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| Posted by: Mrracetrack at January 16, 2002, 5:17 pm | | Topic: The Casino Online Forum: Winner Online |
Joeyl,
you posted; "Can someone give me a quick rundown of how casinos from a certain software group go out of business?
I ask this believing that RTG casinos seem to be in the melting pot at the moment(judging by posts).
What is it?
The software not doing its job?
More like "Management" not doing it's job.
Running an on line casino is NOT the
"get rich quick" scheme that many of the
"owners" thought it would be.
Many went into this enture under capitalized, thinking there was "no way"
that they would need extra cash reserves
once the money started "rolling in".
Looks like they were wrong.
Operating an on line casino is not the "goose that laid the
golden egg" like they imagined.
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| Posted by: joeyl at January 16, 2002, 5:04 pm | | Topic: The Casino Online Forum: Winner Online |
Can someone give me a quick rundown of how casinos from a certain software group go out of business?
I ask this believing that RTG casinos seem to be in the melting pot at the moment(judging by posts).
What is it?
The software not doing its job?
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| Posted by: tonyd at January 16, 2002, 4:43 pm | | Topic: The Casino Online Forum: Winner Online |
I just received the following email from Worldplay. Looks like they are going to make good on their promise.
Dear *****
Great news from WorldPlay Casino!
As you may know, WorldPlay Casino is no longer in operation. Eventhough
the casino is not in operation, we still keep our promise of service
toward our customers. That is why your Paypal withdrawal will be approved
by the casino management.
Since we can no longer process withdrawals through Paypal, a check will be
sent to the address we have on file.
Please accept our apologies for any inconviniences this delay may have
caused you. Though it usually takes no more than 3 days for the check to
reach its final destination, please allow 5-7 business for this check to
arrive.
We send our many thanks for all the time you spent here with us at
WorldPlay Casino!!!
Goodbye, and thanks a lot for your patience.
Sincerely,
WorldPlay Casino
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| Posted by: grantt at January 16, 2002, 4:02 pm | | Topic: The Casino Online Forum: Winner Online |
Jetset wrote "www.thecasinoonline.com offering bonuses up to 20 percent, $15 download bonus and getaway hotel prizes. Haven't had time to go in and study the rules yet - this is up on the site." and "I spend a fair amount of time on the net and it's no sweat to tell fellow board members about good promos out there." Nice going Jetset. If my calculations are correct your batting 100%
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| Posted by: AmateurSleuth at January 16, 2002, 3:48 pm | | Topic: The Casino Online Forum: Winner Online |
Yes, The Casino Online is a member of Safebet.
Here is the list of Safebet members:
PLATINUM MEMBERS
1 America's Online Casino
2 At The Tables Casino
3 Big Caesars (Carib Sports)
4 Black Widow Casino
5 Casino Extreme
6 Cleopatra's Casino
7 Club Mardi Gras Casino
8 Club Regal Casino
9 Cyberbetz Casino
10 eBets Casino
11 888 Lucky Casino
12 eWorld Casino
13 Five Roses Casino
14 GameDay Casino & Sportsbooks
15 Golden Comps Casino
16 Grand Banks Casino
17 INetBet Casino
18 NetClubCasino.com
19 PowerBet Casino
20 Quicksilver Casino
21 Sci Fi Casino
22 Silver Sands Casino
23 The Casino Online
GOLD MEMBERS
24 Magic Oasis Casino
25 Windows Casino
SILVER MEMBERS
26 Lotto4Good.com
27 The Vegas Strip Sportsbook
I wonder who will be next, and when it will be. Anyone want to take bets on that?
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| Posted by: caruso at January 16, 2002, 3:28 pm | | Topic: The Casino Online Forum: Winner Online |
Talk about swift demise. I posted a positive comment about a swift payment from these folks only about 10 days ago. Hope this is not the thin end of the wedge. Pigs might fly.
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| Posted by: PlayTheOdds at January 16, 2002, 2:47 pm | | Topic: The Casino Online Forum: Winner Online |
The Casino Online was offering a 35% bonus just this past weekend. I deposited $500 to the casino on January 12 (4 days ago). My cashout request was for $600.
Is anyone sure this is another Casino Merlin situation? Sometimes casinos really do have technical difficulties. But with both the web site and casino down, things look ery bad. Also, the customer support phone line is inoperative. I've got almost $800 at risk (lost?) with Merlin and now $600 with Casino Online. Is Casino Online a Safebet casino (not that that would be a lot of help)?
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| Posted by: tonyd at January 16, 2002, 2:13 pm | | Topic: The Casino Online Forum: Winner Online |
To my knowledge, Worldplay wasn't a sister to any other casinos. I had played extensively here for over a year. Even when some other RTG casinos started slow pay/no pay; Worldplay still paid me in a timely fashion.
Now the good news, I just received an email from Worldplay stating that even though they have shut down; they are going to pay what they owe. I have to send some documents but at least they haven't run away like The Casino Online.
I'll post when and if I get paid.
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| Posted by: zrapture at January 16, 2002, 1:25 pm | | Topic: The Casino Online Forum: Winner Online |
Maybe nobody wanted to be the first. They all held some dilusion that things would turn around. No they realize it's not going to happen.
Maybe the ecash processors who they been having problems with them for long time decided to stop accepting deposits from players realizing that the casinos weren't/couldn't pay the players back their deposits, let alone winnings. I get the feeling that if it we're the casinos option they would just keep accepting those deposits even after they closed shop.
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| Posted by: tonyd at January 16, 2002, 1:10 pm | | Topic: The Casino Online Forum: Winner Online |
I know of 3 RTG casinos that closed recently:
Casino Merlin
The Casino Online
Worldplay
Don't know what's going on, but something smells at RTG.
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| Posted by: The_CPA at January 16, 2002, 11:57 am | | Topic: The Casino Online Forum: Winner Online |
This is Too much. This is getting entirely to Global for RTG. Everyweek there is another major development. Any chance Merlin and the Casino Online are connected and does anyone know if there are any other sisters to this one. There must be since multibles are common at RTG.
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| Posted by: nvaughan3 at January 16, 2002, 10:36 am | | Topic: The Casino Online Forum: Winner Online |
From all accounts it appears they are down and out for the count. Sorry.
If this isnt the case, then be joyous, but the consensus this morning is that they are gone.
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| Posted by: dan at January 16, 2002, 5:28 am | | Topic: The Casino Online Forum: Winner Online |
Does someone contact this casino recently?
The casino was temporarily down when I tried to login. Their website (www.thecasinoonline.com) is down also. Another Casino Merlin? They owe me over $3000 deposit!!!
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| Posted by: brian at November 2, 2000, 10:08 am | | Topic: The Casino Online Forum: Winner Online |
Theres still no reason why they dont pay you the money you won. If you proved you're you, I dont see what their problem is. I guess they figure you'll just go away and be happy with the fact that they were nice enough to give you the credit back.
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| Posted by: Velveeta at November 2, 2000, 9:51 am | | Topic: The Casino Online Forum: Winner Online |
Today I officially heard back from Safebet. It seems that I was locked out because they locked out my cousin and they think I am the same person.
His middle name is my first name.
Ryan Ray- My cousin
Christopher Ray- My father
Ray Michael- Me
My grandfathers middle name was Ray and he named all of his sons with "Ray" somewhere in their name. When they had children, they continued the tradition as a respectful thing in my family to do. I will do the same when I have children.
I faxed them my ID to prove myself and they did not believe the evidence in front of their eyes. However, they must have been a little skeptical about their firm stance because they credited back my credit card all of the way. I am at least happy with that.
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| Posted by: Velveeta at November 1, 2000, 10:04 pm | | Topic: The Casino Online Forum: Winner Online |
Larry Thom,
I have played and won at your casino three weeks ago. After I won $350, I was locked out and told to send the fax back form and ID.
I sent the proper forms immediately. After I sent them, I was told to resend them as my photo was too dark. I know this was a stall tactic, but complied anyway. After I sent two more shades of my ID, my account (username "guru") was not reopened.
I called and emailed endlessly. I was ALWAYS givin an excuse, and never a straight answer. Finally, here is the email I received from Lou in your customer service.
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Thanks for contacting us again here at Customer Service, as well as for your
patience.
I really want to apologize for not answering you as soon as I promised.
I'm really sorry to inform you that our fraud control department has decided
that your account had strange activity, and therefore your account will not
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| Posted by: prosperity9035 at October 30, 2000, 8:33 am | | Topic: The Casino Online Forum: Winner Online |
I JUST RECEIVED THE CHECK FOR $480! I AM SOOOO HAPPY!
that was the best spammer talk i could do.
Seriously, thank you Larry for getting it all straightened out. And thanks to everyone else.
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| Posted by: prosperity9035 at October 27, 2000, 7:56 am | | Topic: The Casino Online Forum: Winner Online |
This is the latest installment in emails.
I just emailed you your tracking status from UPS. Your check is in transit. I have no idea why it was not showing up on there system last night when you checked.
Our computers went off line to install an upgrade and possibly when you called that is the time that they were. I can do some more investigation to find out the exact times if this is the information that you require?
If there are any other questions or concerns please feel free to email me.
Best Regards,
Larry Thom
Marketing Manager
The Casino Online
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| Posted by: Kyla at October 27, 2000, 7:45 am | | Topic: The Casino Online Forum: Winner Online |
be careful mary. he is a scorpio. you have been warned.
{wonder if he remembered the code word in the emails FVCK...}
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| Posted by: prosperity9035 at October 27, 2000, 7:31 am | | Topic: The Casino Online Forum: Winner Online |
Thanks Mary. If you ever find you are bored, email me and I will show you the stream of emails back and forth between myself and Atlantic Inter Bets. In addition to the 3 full pages of online help we went through. No I still haven't received my check from them but I am hopefull. my email is prosperity9035@earthlink.net
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| Posted by: Mary (aka The Original Mary) at October 26, 2000, 10:11 pm | | Topic: The Casino Online Forum: Winner Online |
Prosperity,
hey, it's an excellent example of what really happens in the wonderful world of online gambling. About 30% of the time there's some kind of screwup, and a gambler has to learn the gentle art of The Polite Email and the polite Phone Call to nudge the check/transfer/bonus on its way out the door.
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| Posted by: prosperity9035 at October 26, 2000, 9:30 pm | | Topic: The Casino Online Forum: Winner Online |
I am now feeling a little weird having to come here and update all the time.
Before anyone gets the wrong idea I ask you to look at my first post. I was basically telling Mr. Wolfe that I had played here and had success.
I fully expected to have a check from express mail at my door and come back all happy and post the good news. By the way this would have been my first check from a casino. I have just started on line.
Well now I find myself having to come back and post so I am fair in reporting all the effort Mr. Thom is putting in.
Just wanted to get that off my chest.
[This message has been edited by prosperity9035 (edited 10-26-2000).]
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| Posted by: prosperity9035 at October 26, 2000, 9:26 pm | | Topic: The Casino Online Forum: Winner Online |
Email from Larry
Hi,
The accounting dept. told me it went out on the courier last night and sent me the UPS tracking number in my previous email . I am currently trying to find out why this number is not showing up on there data base.. It is late at night so I am having a difficult time trying to get an answer for you right away. As soon as I do I will forward the information on to you.
Regards,
Larry Thom
The Casino Online
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| Posted by: prosperity9035 at October 26, 2000, 9:08 pm | | Topic: The Casino Online Forum: Winner Online |
This is what UPS says.
"
Unable to track shipment "W604 7754 283 ".
We could not find information for this tracking number. Make sure the tracking number is correct and try again.
Message received:
TRACKING NUMBER NOT FOUND IN UPS DATABASE.
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