| Posted by: VegasLobby at February 6, 2002, 12:19 am | | Topic: Gambler's Lobby already delaying payments? Forum: Winner Online |
>Copied from another post to clear the air:
Ok, Ladies and Gentleman,
Allow me to introduce myself once again. My name is Joel Bess, I am a compulsive gambler, and overeater and alcoholic.... so during one of my relapses I gave Marty my Login, and told him “post what you want”
You guys are absolutely nuts for blaming RTG still for slow payouts, it is obvious that it is the casinos itself, RTG should not even have a complaint place – does Boss? Unified? Cyrpto? MG?.
So give them a lot of credit for steeping up to the plate and helping you people with the casino operators.
KUDOS for you Marty for Stepping in and adding you two sense…. Oh, and Max, IP Check please to erify that Marty is not the same IP address as where I always post
Let me explain my relationship, so we don’t have a breach or conflict of interest.
I own Vegas Lobby
I own Shockwave Marketing
I am a consultant for SCC Group
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| Posted by: Got2Bet at February 4, 2002, 6:39 am | | Topic: Gambler's Lobby already delaying payments? Forum: Winner Online |
Interesting idea. I would like to hear from someone here (not a new poster, a regular) who has tried this.
Clearly a risk to take a risk - this type of financial model is highly susceptible to abuse.
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| Posted by: CasinoNow at February 4, 2002, 12:15 am | | Topic: Gambler's Lobby already delaying payments? Forum: Winner Online |
Great design. Interesting concept. I wonder if the $25 is on top of the casino bonus? Also seems strange to have such a spike in Geisha Lounge reviews. I'll have to go back later and read them.
Jerry Garner
GamingBroadcast.com
jerry@gamingbroadcast.com
Quote: Originally Posted by The Original Mary:
Charles, thank you for your attention to this board. I know I'm keeping the heat turned up, but, if it does turn out that there is a systemic cash handling problem outside of your usual purvue, player feedback will help you to resolve it.
Could you tell us the relationship between www.paidtogamble.com and Gamblers Lobby Network?
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| Posted by: The Original Mary at February 3, 2002, 9:24 pm | | Topic: Gambler's Lobby already delaying payments? Forum: Winner Online |
Charles, thank you for your attention to this board. I know I'm keeping the heat turned up, but, if it does turn out that there is a systemic cash handling problem outside of your usual purvue, player feedback will help you to resolve it.
Could you tell us the relationship between www.paidtogamble.com and Gamblers Lobby Network?
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| Posted by: CasinoNow at February 2, 2002, 11:02 am | | Topic: Gambler's Lobby already delaying payments? Forum: Winner Online |
All I know is, someone is definitely fibbing, both publicly and privately, to players, and perhaps operators. Is it RTG, the individual casinos, some third party processor, or a combination of each??? I honestly do not know, and do not think anyone who is not on the inside of RTG can claim to at this time, but someone involved in this scenario is a bold faced liar, and they need to be weeded out at all costs.
Jerry Garner
GamingBroadcast.com
jerry@gamingbroadcast.com
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| Posted by: Trader v1.1 at February 2, 2002, 10:31 am | | Topic: Gambler's Lobby already delaying payments? Forum: Winner Online |
I have taken my personal boycott of RTG to a new level. I now respond to each promotional email explaining that I will not deposit at any RTG casino until I see proof that they are paying within their stated terms and that players owed money by the recently closed down operations are paid. I am asking the honest and stable casinos to pressure RTG to see that players are paid.
So far Net Club and The Online Casino have replied to me, politely, but not too happy about it. I do make it clear that I know they are not responsible for the mess, but that they will suffer from the RTG reputation for slow pay--no pay.
On a personal level there is some good news. Vegas Strip Group has now paid the last of my winnings, although it took 10 weeks. Two of my three withdrawals from Main Street Vegas Group have been approved. They have been running about one month for payments. I have received a confirmation of my complaint file at the RTG web site and am awaiting action on it.
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| Posted by: Jetset at February 2, 2002, 6:20 am | | Topic: Gambler's Lobby already delaying payments? Forum: Winner Online |
That earlier posting about an RTG casino being upfront about a shortage of cash would seem to be confirmed by a new complaint at GG regarding INetBet where the complainant was given a similar "reassurance" that he would definitely be paid - just not right now!
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| Posted by: CasinoNow at February 1, 2002, 9:08 pm | | Topic: Gambler's Lobby already delaying payments? Forum: Winner Online |
This is ery interesting, because within the last couple of days this makes a couple of RTG sites that I have seen state they are positive their payments are going out on time, yet people are obviously having problems. Has anyone checked into the processing company? Also, who specifically handles the accounting functions for these casinos? Does each handle their own, especially in terms of approving and sending player payments, or is it done collectively for all RTG sites by a single entity?
Jerry Garner
GamingBroadcast.com
jerry@gamingbroadcast.com
Quote: Originally Posted by Gamblers Lobby Network:
Just got this message thread emailed to me from one of our customer service reps. I am positive that we are not late in payments, Our promise is to pay in 72 hours.
I will come back later with a formal response - after a full investigation of the matter.
May I also add that we are getting a VERY positive response from Players - http://www.paidtogamble.c... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: CasinoNow at February 1, 2002, 9:01 pm | | Topic: Gambler's Lobby already delaying payments? Forum: Winner Online |
He manages the Windows Casino affiliate program, or at least sends out announcements for it.
Jerry Garner
GamingBroadcast.com
jerry@gamingbroadcast.com
Quote: Originally Posted by The Original Mary:
Who the heck is Mark Friedman?
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| Posted by: CasinoNow at February 1, 2002, 8:59 pm | | Topic: Gambler's Lobby already delaying payments? Forum: Winner Online |
No, Mark had stated to me that Tony was no longer involved with the OCMA, and he seemed to have no knowledge that it had recently reopened for a brief period. I had also mentioned that it was a strange coincidence that this happened right after the OPA had disbanded, and he seemed to be shocked (and saddened) to hear that news. He could be faking it, who knows, I don't have enough dealings with him to know either way. I'm just more or less tossing it out there - passing it on.
Jerry Garner
GamingBroadcast.com
jerry@gamingbroadcast.com
Quote: Originally Posted by The_CPA:
Jerry,
Am I following this right? Tony didn't know the OCMA was reopened. How could that be? I thought he had the keys to front door?
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| Posted by: jondo at February 1, 2002, 6:32 pm | | Topic: Gambler's Lobby already delaying payments? Forum: Winner Online |
It will when you download it.
The horrible thing is these guys don't pay anyone and have been a scam for years. A number of software firms have dumped them. So much for RTG and their new licensee screening policy. But, maybe these guys just stole the software?
Pyramid/TNT=Britneyspearscasino
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| Posted by: Felo at February 1, 2002, 4:27 pm | | Topic: Gambler's Lobby already delaying payments? Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by Felo:
Hey Jondo ... i think you are wrong my friend, britneyspearsonlinecasino is not an RTG casino.
Definitely not ...
i just thought would be a good idea to clear that out
I take it back, sorry JONDO ... it definitely its an RTG site ...
oooopsss
Personally i dont take serious a casino that shows a personality picture without their conscent, plus a daily picture of the day showing off some boobs ... nice boobs by the way , but i think this kind of sites just kill the nature of real serious casinos ... call it online or land based.
Open a strip bar as well or a porno site, but dont mix them ... its just not quite appealing.
Just my humble opinion anyways
FELO
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| Posted by: Felo at February 1, 2002, 4:19 pm | | Topic: Gambler's Lobby already delaying payments? Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by jondo:
Talk about stealing someone's good name, how about http://www.britneyspearscasino.com
Is she even old enough to legally enter an online casino? Another RTG casino.
Mr Staw, How solid are these guys?
Hey Jondo ... i think you are wrong my friend, britneyspearsonlinecasino is not an RTG casino.
Definitely not ...
i just thought would be a good idea to clear that out
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| Posted by: Sirius at February 1, 2002, 4:09 pm | | Topic: Gambler's Lobby already delaying payments? Forum: Winner Online |
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/valentine4.gif
There's at least one complaint in gambling grumbles about the casino. They don't seem to pay. They can't have the rights to use her name either!
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| Posted by: The Original Mary at February 1, 2002, 2:46 pm | | Topic: Gambler's Lobby already delaying payments? Forum: Winner Online |
Oh,no. RTG hasn't picked up these guys as a licensee, have they? From a Sting article:
"Aside from Horizon Sports, today's worst example of stealing the name of a good operator would have to be PYRAMID SPORTSBOOK. The only difference between the "good" and the "Bad" Pyramid is the fact that one is .com and the other is .net. http://www.pyramidsportsbook.com are the "good" guys who appear here at the Prescription. Several operators, players, and even Yours Truly wrongly believed the Pyramid Sportsbook appearing at the Prescription site was indeed the "bad" sportsbook which merged with TNT. According to the "good" Pyramid's owner: "This is KILLING my business."
It ain't killing the "bad" Pyramid's business. Hundreds of people have complained about India-born Tej's non-paying establishment. A number of sportsbooks have gone as far as to suggest they issue a formal complaint against eSports, who provide software fo... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: The_CPA at February 1, 2002, 12:43 pm | | Topic: Gambler's Lobby already delaying payments? Forum: Winner Online |
I feel better! Thank you both for jumping in there. I was pushing this one a little bit last month cause RTG told me to keep pedaling in that first thread and he'd take of things! I am trusting you!
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| Posted by: jondo at February 1, 2002, 11:03 am | | Topic: Gambler's Lobby already delaying payments? Forum: Winner Online |
RTG,
posted by sting at the rumor mill
02.01.02 - Pyramidcasino.net and its related companies no longer sending out payouts and they continue to stiff players out of thousands and thousands of dollars.
A ery little bit of checking will show that this group is on everyone's "NOT RECOMMENDED" list
except yours.
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| Posted by: RTG at February 1, 2002, 10:34 am | | Topic: Gambler's Lobby already delaying payments? Forum: Winner Online |
Things are pretty stable at GL and you should not have any problems getting your money (other than this little hump). They are a ery well funded group. We have been working with them to install a payout tracking system to speed up the process. We have been told that payouts will come early next week.
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| Posted by: PlayTheOdds at February 1, 2002, 9:16 am | | Topic: Gambler's Lobby already delaying payments? Forum: Winner Online |
I requested a withdrawal on January 13. My original deposit was returned to PayPal ery quickly. My winnings have not yet been sent. I requested them to PayPal as well, but this method was "Denied" and the casino re-entered my request as an "Overnight Withdrawal" on January 16. It did not occur to me to be worried yet, but I wanted to get more facts out to the boardmembers. Also, I did send a faxback form to the casino on January 13 (although there was no credit card involved - -just PayPal funds).
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| Posted by: Gamblers Lobby Network at February 1, 2002, 7:13 am | | Topic: Gambler's Lobby already delaying payments? Forum: Winner Online |
Just got this message thread emailed to me from one of our customer service reps. I am positive that we are not late in payments, Our promise is to pay in 72 hours.
I will come back later with a formal response - after a full investigation of the matter.
May I also add that we are getting a VERY positive response from Players - http://www.paidtogamble.com/detail_rate.asp?casinoid=20
Mary, thanks for bringing up this issue.
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| Posted by: Jydeman at February 1, 2002, 4:07 am | | Topic: Gambler's Lobby already delaying payments? Forum: Winner Online |
Within the last week or so Gamblers Lobby has added a popup on their site promising 72 hour payout ia Paypal. Total BS - Paypal will take even longer than check.
Edit:
I see it's already mentioned by CPA. The popup wasn't there on the January 24th - which mean they have added it after they started queing the withdrawals.
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| Posted by: caruso at February 1, 2002, 3:54 am | | Topic: Gambler's Lobby already delaying payments? Forum: Winner Online |
This is an RTG casino that is barely two months old, yet already they can't pay players
What time scale are we talking? I got my deposit back swiftly, as per the Twin Aces group norm (in my experience), and I assume I won't see a cheque for a good two months. Since they're only two months old, I wouldn't expect anyone to have been paid yet.
No need to hit the panic button.
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| Posted by: Sirius at February 1, 2002, 3:53 am | | Topic: Gambler's Lobby already delaying payments? Forum: Winner Online |
There's a new complaint about an RTG casino in gambling grumbles at gambling.com.
Quicksilver Casino. I'm still confused as to why RTG closed down certain casinos when most of the others seem as bad.
Can they close casinos down for not playing players anyway, as they say they've done with a few recently? Wouldn't that imply that they have responsibilty in that regard as well? I think RTG are happy as long as they get their monthly fee.
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| Posted by: CasinoNow at January 31, 2002, 11:55 pm | | Topic: Gambler's Lobby already delaying payments? Forum: Winner Online |
Just found it. It was the OCMA that he said Tony has nothing to do with, and seemed to have no knowledge that it had recently opened briefly. I apologize for any confusion that may have caused.
Jerry Garner
GamingBroadcast.com
jerry@gamingbroadcast.com
Quote: Originally Posted by Gamerz:
I had played at Windows casino several days ago. I used an instant match $60 coupon. The confirmation email I received was definitely signed off as Tony Friedman.
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| Posted by: The_CPA at January 31, 2002, 11:45 pm | | Topic: Gambler's Lobby already delaying payments? Forum: Winner Online |
This is all interesting! Has anyone heard anything definative from RTG as to when the money will start flowing back to agrieved players?
This is on the open page of G.L.! Strange they would implement this process if they are having trouble. Brass Balls or there's more to the story on this.
"We now process payouts through PayPal within 72 hours with proper documentation!
Just request your withdrawal with the PayPal withdrawal choice."
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| Posted by: CasinoNow at January 31, 2002, 11:24 pm | | Topic: Gambler's Lobby already delaying payments? Forum: Winner Online |
In a recent reply to their webmaster's newsletter, I told Mark Friedman of Windows Casino that I am not currently willing to promote any RTG sites until I see how well they live up to their word and get this mess straightened out. I also cited a few other problems the current sites seem to be having, including player payments, to which he replied to let me know that they are processing their payments on time.
I may be mistaken on this, I'll have to try to pull the email up to see, but I thought he also told me that Tony is no longer with them. Although, my memory is a bit foggy at this hour, and it could have been that he said Tony no longer has anything to do with the OCMA, which is another item I mentioned.
At this point I would still advise everyone to hold off on playing at any of these sites, as well as notifying them of the reasons why, and also letting them know your play will return once the current issues are straightened out. Things look good for the steps RTG is taking, so I... | | Read Entire Entry |
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