| Posted by: goodguy_1 at April 1, 2006, 1:23 pm | | Topic: Bayou goes to 10x... no wait, 7X... no wait, 12x Forum: Bonus Whores | Quote: -We paid 25% off the top to FB----25k
-Then we paid out 50% OF THE GROSS to players in bonus---50k
-Now we are at 25k balance, we pay affiliates 30%(less the 50% bonus)
-Then we pay CC fees which are CRAZY, issue other bonuses and manual comps.
-Another 1000.00 a month for "support" which is pointless
-When its all said and done if we net 7k on 100k rake we are lucky. Then I pay employees. Im left with about 1k a month in my pocket.
very informative ..thanks for posting this stuff.
you need to kick FB to the curb and work directly w/ OnGame or join a diiferent Network ie Prima, VC/GP,Ipoker if possible..good luck | | Static Link |
| Posted by: itsallaboutthemusic at March 31, 2006, 3:11 pm | | Topic: Bayou goes to 10x... no wait, 7X... no wait, 12x Forum: Bonus Whores | | as far as the people saying "i have had a great experience at bayou", i wouldnt disagree with them. i have never had any sort of negative experience with any of this network's skins. however, i have ALWAYS received whatever has been advertised. obvioiusly i dont know the inner workings, and whos specifically to blame, but SOMEONE dropped the ball over there. when a business drops the ball, as this one has, they should expect to bend over backwards for irate customers, not the other way around. i would just think that if someone had deposited a large amt due to this being erroneously advertised, they would be entitled to get their money back out immediately, no questions asked, no hoops to jump through. it seems as if a couple people were running up against a few roadblocks. perhaps im wrong to jump on the "black list" bandwagon, but many of the things i have read make me take a large sigh of releif for NOT having deposited a large portion of my roll (would have been less than 10k$ U... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Timprov at March 30, 2006, 10:06 am | | Topic: Bayou goes to 10x... no wait, 7X... no wait, 12x Forum: Bonus Whores | Quote:
The only alternative is to leave the network and find another.
I'd certainly suggest you look into that at this point. You also may have the size and the growth to negotiate directly with Ongame and cut out the Futurebet middleman. It certainly sounds like you have nearly as much traffic as Holdempoker.
The $2k cashout max is a deal-killer for me, and the $2500 deposit limit somewhat less so. Those are terms I can't imagine agreeing to as a poker site which hopes to grow. Your most valuable potential customers are the ones who are pulling more than $2k out per week playing the higher games. I'm on the cusp of that myself, and I don't want to be caught not being able to get my money out. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: lonestar at March 30, 2006, 9:52 am | | Topic: Bayou goes to 10x... no wait, 7X... no wait, 12x Forum: Bonus Whores | Great post.
I will for sure play at Bayou at 10* compared to similar or worse offers.
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| Posted by: bayoupoker at March 30, 2006, 9:27 am | | Topic: Bayou goes to 10x... no wait, 7X... no wait, 12x Forum: Bonus Whores | simply email admin@bayoupoker.com, thats "Tom" and he will look at the account activity and see where you stand and reply back. Just tell tom you talked to me and want your account reviewed for potential upgrade to VIp.
Thanks
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| Posted by: bayoupoker at March 30, 2006, 8:14 am | | Topic: Bayou goes to 10x... no wait, 7X... no wait, 12x Forum: Bonus Whores | To address a few issues for you guys.... Basicaly the 7x was yanked. There were players who were abusing the 7x non contrib. by simply folding over and over then getting "free money" I figured it would always be a give and take, but when it comes down to brass tacks, the company we license through would never allow any type of "loss" to be accepted. Even at 12x, you can still earn up to 58% which is higher still than the old 50% we used to have. Granted this doesnt apply to all players. We have come up with a solution for some of the players by providing VIP status on a per request/individual review basis. This VIP status has a number of perks. Simply put, the top players get a better release rate (10x vs. 12x).
In regards to a few other issues , I will simply paste in my comments from another board, no need to "reinvent the wheel"."
"The 2k max/rollover etc is stupid, its been from day 1. Its one of those things that we cant "adjust&quo... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Steve565 at March 29, 2006, 10:14 am | | Topic: Bayou goes to 10x... no wait, 7X... no wait, 12x Forum: Bonus Whores | << If there is anything in the future that we can do to have you come back, please let me know >>
They could adjust the bonus for all the 12x folks who feel they got mislead (like me), to say 9x.
I think that would make eveyone pretty happy, and negate a lot of this withdrawing, waiving rollover requirements, and general bad will towards the site.
Just change it to 9s, and I'll play it. If not, I'll be asking for the waive. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: phatlad at March 29, 2006, 4:04 am | | Topic: Bayou goes to 10x... no wait, 7X... no wait, 12x Forum: Bonus Whores | itsallaboutthemusic wrote: Quote: I would not consider that acceptable. In fact, for Bayou to be asking any of its customers for concessions right now seems to be in extremely poor taste.
100% agreement. my "crow" tastes great. i will refrain from attacking a "vet" who (in his own mind) "knows it all". well, i guess too late, i just sais something sarcastic...
anyway, the way this has been handled is totally unacceptable to those who deposited. thank god one of them wasnt me. sorry to those who did. i DO appreciate that guy from bayou posting here. i suppose he is kinda getting hung out to dry by those higher than him in the organization, i dont really know.
this site should be black-listed imho.
Shows how much you know. Keep eating that crow! | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Vicious at March 29, 2006, 3:10 am | | Topic: Bayou goes to 10x... no wait, 7X... no wait, 12x Forum: Bonus Whores | lonestar wrote: briton wrote:
I am another person that has had a great experience with Bayou.
Pretty much same opinion i heard from everyone that has ACTUALLY played at their site.
I hope to see Mike here to explain why they cant waive the rollover without forfeiting winning and bonus cause i dont think it is their call. Talk about blacklisting seems a little far fetched to me. The 12* change wasnt their call and if this rollover isnt either i dont really understand why they should suffer blacklisting.
They finally agree to let me keep my winning, my account, and they process my cashout promptly after rejecting my 2 previous cashout.
"I agree Vicious & have just approved your withdrawal – I apologize for the way it appears but it really was not our intention to mislead anyone. If there is anything in the future that we can do to have you come back, please let me know as I can always provide you with additional free money comp... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: ajk123 at March 28, 2006, 9:43 pm | | Topic: Bayou goes to 10x... no wait, 7X... no wait, 12x Forum: Bonus Whores | They have been treating me pretty well also. Maybe because of the fact that I've been playing a ton there lately. Got $2500 in bonuses at 7x and cleared $1400 already. Unfortunately, while I was waiting for the other $7500 in bonuses to be credited to my account, they changed it to 12x, but I still think it's great for a rainy day and will probably finish the $7500 someday since it never expires. They've waived my cashout limit and I was able to get 2k out today with another 6k on its way in 1-2 business days according to customer service (they had to split it up into 4 $2k withdrawals for some reason).
I've noticed they put your rake paid and also the amount you rolled over in your "My Account" section on their website (not the cashier), if you were curious. It seems like with their accounting, I've paid less in rake than the bonuses, so I can understand them changing it to 12x. $2500 at 7x was the best bonus I ever got at a PokerRoom skin (or maybe even best bonus ever), so I'm no... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Vicious at March 28, 2006, 6:26 pm | | Topic: Bayou goes to 10x... no wait, 7X... no wait, 12x Forum: Bonus Whores | hawkeen wrote: OK so I recieved my $1k cashout in about 35 hours after requesting it. I still have another good size amount in there and I will take it out slowly. With that being said, I don't want to hear about bayou ripping you off or this other BS. Bayou is running a business and they are trying to offer a product while keeping costs down. As long as you meet the requirements and do not try to scam them they will work with you.
So far the service has been very well. Emails answered promptly, live support great and cashouts right on par with other pokerroom skins. It makes me wonder what others are doing to get the wrath of bayou because I think they are being quite nice. I may make them my major base site to play from.
cheers
Hawk
What BS is you think you own this forum and you think your opinion is more validate then then anyone of us opinion is.
cheers | | Static Link |
| Posted by: lonestar at March 28, 2006, 6:12 pm | | Topic: Bayou goes to 10x... no wait, 7X... no wait, 12x Forum: Bonus Whores | briton wrote:
I am another person that has had a great experience with Bayou.
Pretty much same opinion i heard from everyone that has ACTUALLY played at their site.
I hope to see Mike here to explain why they cant waive the rollover without forfeiting winning and bonus cause i dont think it is their call. Talk about blacklisting seems a little far fetched to me. The 12* change wasnt their call and if this rollover isnt either i dont really understand why they should suffer blacklisting.
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| Posted by: lonestar at March 28, 2006, 6:06 pm | | Topic: Bayou goes to 10x... no wait, 7X... no wait, 12x Forum: Bonus Whores | Alphaunit1
You can e-mail Tom at bayou he will waive the cashout limit.
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| Posted by: briton at March 28, 2006, 4:44 pm | | Topic: Bayou goes to 10x... no wait, 7X... no wait, 12x Forum: Bonus Whores | itsallaboutthemusic wrote: Quote: I would not consider that acceptable. In fact, for Bayou to be asking any of its customers for concessions right now seems to be in extremely poor taste.
100% agreement. my "crow" tastes great. i will refrain from attacking a "vet" who (in his own mind) "knows it all". well, i guess too late, i just sais something sarcastic...
anyway, the way this has been handled is totally unacceptable to those who deposited. thank god one of them wasnt me. sorry to those who did. i DO appreciate that guy from bayou posting here. i suppose he is kinda getting hung out to dry by those higher than him in the organization, i dont really know.
this site should be black-listed imho.
Why the hell would you come on here and say Bayou has done nothing to you, but they should be black listed?
I am another person that has had a great experience with Bayou. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: itsallaboutthemusic at March 28, 2006, 4:12 pm | | Topic: Bayou goes to 10x... no wait, 7X... no wait, 12x Forum: Bonus Whores | Quote: I would not consider that acceptable. In fact, for Bayou to be asking any of its customers for concessions right now seems to be in extremely poor taste.
100% agreement. my "crow" tastes great. i will refrain from attacking a "vet" who (in his own mind) "knows it all". well, i guess too late, i just sais something sarcastic...
anyway, the way this has been handled is totally unacceptable to those who deposited. thank god one of them wasnt me. sorry to those who did. i DO appreciate that guy from bayou posting here. i suppose he is kinda getting hung out to dry by those higher than him in the organization, i dont really know.
this site should be black-listed imho. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Alphaunit1 at March 28, 2006, 3:47 pm | | Topic: Bayou goes to 10x... no wait, 7X... no wait, 12x Forum: Bonus Whores | hawkeen wrote: OK so I recieved my $1k cashout in about 35 hours after requesting it. I still have another good size amount in there and I will take it out slowly. With that being said, I don't want to hear about bayou ripping you off or this other BS. Bayou is running a business and they are trying to offer a product while keeping costs down. As long as you meet the requirements and do not try to scam them they will work with you.
You're right. I'm an asshole. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: hawkeen at March 28, 2006, 3:10 pm | | Topic: Bayou goes to 10x... no wait, 7X... no wait, 12x Forum: Bonus Whores | OK so I recieved my $1k cashout in about 35 hours after requesting it. I still have another good size amount in there and I will take it out slowly. With that being said, I don't want to hear about bayou ripping you off or this other BS. Bayou is running a business and they are trying to offer a product while keeping costs down. As long as you meet the requirements and do not try to scam them they will work with you.
So far the service has been very well. Emails answered promptly, live support great and cashouts right on par with other pokerroom skins. It makes me wonder what others are doing to get the wrath of bayou because I think they are being quite nice. I may make them my major base site to play from.
cheers
Hawk | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Alphaunit1 at March 28, 2006, 8:57 am | | Topic: Bayou goes to 10x... no wait, 7X... no wait, 12x Forum: Bonus Whores | 700 points = $1000 in table rake.
I honestly can't tell you if that is normal or not for 1/2NL. Does he use PokerTracker? He could check the total rake generated for those 1800 hands there.
ninguno: Excellent point. Again, I don't think this is really Bayou's call at all - I think they had this shoved down their throat. It still doesn't make me exactly pleased with them, obviously, but I've reserved my personal cashout frustrations to be split between FutureBet (their licensor/backend support) and myself for not reading the T&C more closely.
Still not thrilled with them, of course - and I have to say that their complete silence in this thread is doing nothing for them. Frankly, I'd be happy to have them come on and simply say "Look, there isn't crap we can do about it. They jammed the terms down our throat, we have no control over it, we're as pissed as you. And the waiving of the rollover requirements is also their call.... that's the only way we can do... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: ruestm at March 28, 2006, 7:05 am | | Topic: Bayou goes to 10x... no wait, 7X... no wait, 12x Forum: Bonus Whores | I`m posting this for a buddy,
He deposited 600$ under the 12x terms, he has 7200 pts to clear the bonus, he played 3 tables at 1/2 NL, he has wagered 1800. Do you guys think he would of cleared close to the bonus yet?
He says his total pts are like at 700. Are the pts droping down as remaining, or they are going up.
He feels he played alot for only getting 700 pts.... on the other hand 700 pts would be like he played 1000 where the pot went to $10....
Thanks for any input | | Static Link |
| Posted by: ninguno at March 28, 2006, 1:31 am | | Topic: Bayou goes to 10x... no wait, 7X... no wait, 12x Forum: Bonus Whores | They're taking a serious hit on all the transactions. When you're a big site like party you can afford it. But they had everyone deposit under the terms that they'd have to wager 1x before withdrawing, and waiving that literally takes the associated rake out of their pockets.
They have a very casino mentality to their business, which is mostly inconvenient for bonus whores. They offered some free money, it turned out not to be quite as free as we expected, and we have to jump through some hoops to get back our investment. It's something you just have to deal with in the life of a whore. Don't feel so personally affronted. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: ramblingalb at March 27, 2006, 10:21 pm | | Topic: Bayou goes to 10x... no wait, 7X... no wait, 12x Forum: Bonus Whores | The astounding thing about how badly this has been handled is that a week ago, we were all singing this new site's praises. They have lost all that goodwill, and are now slow on cashouts and making up silly rules in order to {sigh} get the money back that you deposited...money that reputable sites like Stars will have back in your account instantaneously.
Why, you ask? Because they tried to add traffic by offering a bonus that is, for all intents and purposes, just 100% rakeback.
I didn't know short-sighted 12 year-olds could start a poker site. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Timprov at March 27, 2006, 8:53 pm | | Topic: Bayou goes to 10x... no wait, 7X... no wait, 12x Forum: Bonus Whores | Vicious wrote: I finally have an reply from bayou after 3 emails. Tom from bayou will waiver my rollover but under 2 conditions. 1st condition is forfeit my account immediately and 2rd is to forfeit my wins also.
I would not consider that acceptable. In fact, for Bayou to be asking any of its customers for concessions right now seems to be in extremely poor taste.
Remind them that you're withdrawing because they've reneged on an advertised promotion. Whether it's their fault or Futurebet's, holding their customers' money in this circumstance is not appropriate, confiscating winnings doubly so. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Leh at March 27, 2006, 4:09 pm | | Topic: Bayou goes to 10x... no wait, 7X... no wait, 12x Forum: Bonus Whores | Yeah ive had similar issues with Bayou and feel the same uncertain feeling as expressed by previous poster. Think Im going to pull my last 800 out soon.
How does the Cash club work? Is it just for casino comps or is it a straight trade for cash into your poker account? I couldnt get a response from them on it nor could i login to the "cash club"???
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| Posted by: Vicious at March 27, 2006, 3:28 pm | | Topic: Bayou goes to 10x... no wait, 7X... no wait, 12x Forum: Bonus Whores | mtxed wrote: Vicious wrote: I finally have an reply from bayou after 3 emails. Tom from bayou will waiver my rollover but under 2 conditions. 1st condition is forfeit my account immediately and 2rd is to forfeit my wins also.
hmmm I wonder if I have lost instead of win, would they cover my losts?
I am geting very uncomfortable with this poker site, and I have play many poker site, this is the most unpleasnat experience I ever have with a poker site.
Should I forfeit my win and say fuck it?
I say if you won less than 50, forget about it
Will I won close to $80 so I don't really want to give that up because I won it fair and square but on the other hand Bayou is tied up most of my bankroll ($2500). Is there a indicator at Bayou to find out how much more I have to wager in order to withdraw my fund? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: mtxed at March 27, 2006, 3:12 pm | | Topic: Bayou goes to 10x... no wait, 7X... no wait, 12x Forum: Bonus Whores | Vicious wrote: I finally have an reply from bayou after 3 emails. Tom from bayou will waiver my rollover but under 2 conditions. 1st condition is forfeit my account immediately and 2rd is to forfeit my wins also.
hmmm I wonder if I have lost instead of win, would they cover my losts?
I am geting very uncomfortable with this poker site, and I have play many poker site, this is the most unpleasnat experience I ever have with a poker site.
Should I forfeit my win and say fuck it?
I say if you won less than 50, forget about it | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Vicious at March 27, 2006, 3:09 pm | | Topic: Bayou goes to 10x... no wait, 7X... no wait, 12x Forum: Bonus Whores | I finally have an reply from bayou after 3 emails. Tom from bayou will waiver my rollover but under 2 conditions. 1st condition is forfeit my account immediately and 2rd is to forfeit my wins also.
hmmm I wonder if I have lost instead of winning, would they cover my losts?
I am geting very uncomfortable with this poker site, and I have play many poker site, this is the most unpleasnat experience I ever have with a poker site. This is the first site I regret depositing my money into, other becareful.
Should I forfeit my win and say fuck it? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Alphaunit1 at March 27, 2006, 1:52 pm | | Topic: Bayou goes to 10x... no wait, 7X... no wait, 12x Forum: Bonus Whores | mtxed wrote: Did they waive the rollover requirement?
No, I cleared the rollover. Playing $5/$10, it isn't that hard to do, and I had enough pending bonus to be worth my while.
Of course, now that I know about this "rule", I really wish that I had asked Tom to help waive the requirements, so I could have gotten the clock started earlier. Over half my working (liquid) bankroll is tied up at the site right now, and I'm none too pleased about it. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: mtxed at March 27, 2006, 1:48 pm | | Topic: Bayou goes to 10x... no wait, 7X... no wait, 12x Forum: Bonus Whores | Alphaunit1 wrote: I initiated my cashout on Sunday, and got it today, so that was fairly quick.
Sadly, I missed the part in the T&C that said they only transfer $2k maximum per week, and now I'm stuck waiting another 2 weeks to get my remaining funds out. (And I'm not even doing a full withdrawal, as I'm still playing there!) You want to talk about BS, that is one lousy way of handling customer's money. I really wish I had seen that in their T&C, it would have definitely influenced my decision to deposit so much there.
Did they waive the rollover requirement?
Cause I initiated a withdrawal twice and it's been rejected twice. Tom (site admin) said he'd help me get it waived. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Alphaunit1 at March 27, 2006, 1:35 pm | | Topic: Bayou goes to 10x... no wait, 7X... no wait, 12x Forum: Bonus Whores | I initiated my cashout on Sunday, and got it today, so that was fairly quick.
Sadly, I missed the part in the T&C that said they only transfer $2k maximum per week, and now I'm stuck waiting another 2 weeks to get my remaining funds out. (And I'm not even doing a full withdrawal, as I'm still playing there!) You want to talk about BS, that is one lousy way of handling customer's money. I really wish I had seen that in their T&C, it would have definitely influenced my decision to deposit so much there. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: rsigley at March 27, 2006, 10:36 am | | Topic: Bayou goes to 10x... no wait, 7X... no wait, 12x Forum: Bonus Whores | | Does anyone know if you can use the poker points you get from Bayou to enter tournaments (like on Hollywood poker)? I usually do the Hollywood Poker 15x one every month and use the points tournaments which makes it worth more to me, but if I can get 12x here and use the points to enter tournaments too I'd be switching over to Bayou | | Static Link |
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