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Posted by: KX at April 11, 2002, 3:11 am
Topic: Grand Virtual casis still giving $20 monthly bonus? Forum: Winner Online

ricky; Cool. When I think about it I recall that you see them shuffling once in a while. If itīs at the end of two decks it should give players a big advantage at the end of the game!
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Posted by: ricky at April 10, 2002, 9:08 pm
Topic: Grand Virtual casis still giving $20 monthly bonus? Forum: Winner Online

KX, they shuffle after playing both decks and not after each round as most of the casino's.
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Posted by: The_CPA at April 10, 2002, 4:10 pm
Topic: Grand Virtual casis still giving $20 monthly bonus? Forum: Winner Online

Most Cryptos,multiplayer mode only, shuffle at approximately the 1/3 point of an 8 deck shoe. When you see the dealer shuffle that is a real shuffle.

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Posted by: Woody0 at April 10, 2002, 3:56 pm
Topic: Grand Virtual casis still giving $20 monthly bonus? Forum: Winner Online

Doesn't Cryptologic show card shuffling?

Of course I think its just part of the touch and feel the simulation.
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Posted by: vickinz at April 10, 2002, 2:48 pm
Topic: Grand Virtual casis still giving $20 monthly bonus? Forum: Winner Online

That's interesting. Only software that shows ya when cards are shuffled, come to think of it. Other casinos, play is continuous.
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Posted by: KX at April 10, 2002, 2:36 pm
Topic: Grand Virtual casis still giving $20 monthly bonus? Forum: Winner Online

ickinz; Iīm pretty sure youīre right. The bonuses are far too good and have been far too good for too long...

ricky; I still donīt see what you mean. Doesnīt GV casinos shuffle after each round just like almost any other online casino?? If they do, your program wonīt do much good.
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Posted by: ricky at April 10, 2002, 1:42 pm
Topic: Grand Virtual casis still giving $20 monthly bonus? Forum: Winner Online

kx, have you ever heard of the computerprogram BJ2021? its a program that you can run beside your casino. you can set the program with the number of decks the casino is playing with and other rules like when you are allowed to split and dubbel etc.
when the dealer draws his cards you can mark them and the program calculates if the remaining cards are positive for the dealer or for the player. it also shows wich cards are left in the deck. a high number of cards below 7 is positve for the dealer and a lot of cards a above seven is positive for the player. ofcourse this only possible when de dealer shuffels after the last card and the bj is fair. and with these casinos i can predict what the last cards are and therefore they have an honest bj. (unless ofcourse the casino is set to give the good cards to the dealer).


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Posted by: vickinz at April 10, 2002, 1:20 pm
Topic: Grand Virtual casis still giving $20 monthly bonus? Forum: Winner Online

Many of these casinos are under the umbrella of Star Alliance Group now. I'm not surprised that they are cracking down on such generosity.

Strange thing was I sometimes won on the $1 for $20 bonuses; but whenever I deposited large, I lost straight LOL! Hence I found it to be bad luck to deposit more than $10-20; but usually just the $1, due to fear of losing my bet disappearing whenever game cut out.

I've often wondered whether these bonuses came through funds from money laundering. A nice person who owned one of these casinos said it didn't cost her anything to own it nor did she have to do anything to run it, when she emailed me privately. She just applied for a casino when she saw it advertised!

Over the past two years, some of these casinos have come and gone, and others have name changes; that's probably the reason why.

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Posted by: KX at April 10, 2002, 10:54 am
Topic: Grand Virtual casis still giving $20 monthly bonus? Forum: Winner Online

jeroenp; Strange... As I said, I only deposit $1 on each every month and Iīve NEVER had a problem with either bonus or payouts.
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Posted by: jeroenp at April 10, 2002, 9:56 am
Topic: Grand Virtual casis still giving $20 monthly bonus? Forum: Winner Online

yeah i also haven't received a $20 bonus
this is what they replied!!

You must be a regular player and deposit at least $50 each month to get the $20 bonus


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Posted by: KX at April 9, 2002, 12:47 pm
Topic: Grand Virtual casis still giving $20 monthly bonus? Forum: Winner Online

Ricky; Iīm not sure if I understand what you mean. Are u saying you are counting cards with help from your computer and therefor now what cards are left in the shoe? Donīt they shuffle after every hand?
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Posted by: ricky at April 9, 2002, 12:36 pm
Topic: Grand Virtual casis still giving $20 monthly bonus? Forum: Winner Online

correction on the above i mend, they use a two deck game
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Posted by: ricky at April 9, 2002, 12:29 pm
Topic: Grand Virtual casis still giving $20 monthly bonus? Forum: Winner Online

i usually deposit 10 dollars on the six casinos and win about 60 dollars on three or four of them. mostly i play let it ride.
the casinos that are on my pc and from wich i receive twenty dollars each month are:

casino treasure
imperial casino
casino lux
golden international
8casinos
casino fantasy

i have checked the honesty of its blach jack game with a card counting program. they use one deck and with the the program i know what the last cards are without seeing them,
ofcourse i dont know of it is programmed to give the dealer all the good cards.
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Posted by: KX at April 9, 2002, 1:05 am
Topic: Grand Virtual casis still giving $20 monthly bonus? Forum: Winner Online

V;
Casino Best
Casino Elegance
Casino Fantasy
Casino Glamour
Casino Treasure
Imperial Casino

I believe itīs a 3* playthrough, but this has never been a problem since I only deposit $1 and never cash less than $60. I would guess I play 4-5* on average when winning.
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Posted by: vickinz at April 8, 2002, 2:34 pm
Topic: Grand Virtual casis still giving $20 monthly bonus? Forum: Winner Online

KX: What are the 6 you have on your pc at same time please?

What is the least amount of wagering you have done and been paid? I always did lots cos I was worried they might stop giving me the bonuses.

Looks like they have even with all that wagering, so may as well do the least LOL!


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Posted by: KX at April 8, 2002, 1:54 pm
Topic: Grand Virtual casis still giving $20 monthly bonus? Forum: Winner Online

ickinz; Iīm a true casino abuser at those places. I donīt trust the software at all and Iīve got no intention of wagering anything more than to get my bonus.

I play $1 at all six every month and Iīve done this for almost two years. I even cash in the $1 if I fall back to $1 =)

I cash in at around $60 and I usually receive 1 winning a month, sometimes 0 and sometimes 2.
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Posted by: vickinz at April 8, 2002, 1:30 pm
Topic: Grand Virtual casis still giving $20 monthly bonus? Forum: Winner Online

Ricky: It took me a while to wise up to what you also found. Five that I could have installed simultaneously were:
Fantasy
Treasure
Imperial
Beehive
Lambada
But this month no bonuses when depositing at 3 of them.

I would support these casinos more by depositing more often, but frequently I have a good bet out and the game or isp cuts out and the bet is never returned. I'm a long way away and do have hassles re entering/cut outs at other casinos also, especially GP and affiliates.

Because of the low deposit and good bonuses, I never complain. Nor do I complain when often I deposit small and get no bonus.
I see it ery much as a "give and take" situation LOL! They have always paid when a win so I don't wish to upset them. What's more, they even offered a $100 bonus at Christmas time.

Queries:
1. Do other players have have game cutoffs and lose their bets often?
2. What do you usually deposit?
3. How many times do you wager as ...
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Posted by: Jydeman at April 8, 2002, 10:57 am
Topic: Grand Virtual casis still giving $20 monthly bonus? Forum: Winner Online

Elegance is a mother.
Harrods is zapcasino.com (never saw a zap-clone before)

If you have trouble finding out if there's a mother and who it might be, you can check the support emailaddresses. They are usually the same as the mothers. (support@casinoanswer.com, support@casinorequest.com, support@casinoquestion etc. etc.)

A few persons supports all mothers and clones.

Harrods had their own emailaddress though.
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Posted by: The_CPA at April 8, 2002, 10:40 am
Topic: Grand Virtual casis still giving $20 monthly bonus? Forum: Winner Online

Good Deal! Looks like a opportunity for me to update my information. Please go here: http://www.casinoplayersadvocate.co...ualCasinos.html

These are the one that I beleive are The "Mother Ships" as stated above. I don't want to add a bunch of clones, it causes too much trouble.

So, if you would, refine the Mother Ships Only.
I thought Elegance was a clone???

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Posted by: ricky at April 8, 2002, 9:11 am
Topic: Grand Virtual casis still giving $20 monthly bonus? Forum: Winner Online

harrods is another clone from one of the casinos mentioned above
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Posted by: KX at April 8, 2002, 9:07 am
Topic: Grand Virtual casis still giving $20 monthly bonus? Forum: Winner Online

Ricky; Whats the URL of Casino Golden International?

Another site using GV is incredybly enough www.harrods.com...
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Posted by: ricky at April 8, 2002, 8:49 am
Topic: Grand Virtual casis still giving $20 monthly bonus? Forum: Winner Online

sorry but casino best is a clone of casino lux.
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Posted by: KX at April 8, 2002, 8:40 am
Topic: Grand Virtual casis still giving $20 monthly bonus? Forum: Winner Online

Great. I have some for you and you gave me some =)

Those also give $20:

Casino Best
Casino Elegance

I didnīt know about lux and casino golden int

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Posted by: ricky at April 8, 2002, 7:45 am
Topic: Grand Virtual casis still giving $20 monthly bonus? Forum: Winner Online

there are about ten "mother casinos" with a lot of clones. you can only have, or the mother or a clone on your computer. But you can have al different "mothers" or one clone from each mother. six of them give the monthly 20 dollar bonus.i have marked the casinos that give you a monthly 20 dollar bonus with a *. the ten casino's are:

casino treasure*
zap casino
royal dynasty
casino pearl (transformed to egasusa)
european gaming (transformed to egasusa)
casino egasusa (transformed to egasusa)
casino fantasie*
casino lux*
imperial casino*
casino glamour*
casino golden international*

if anyone has an addition to my list please let me know
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Posted by: vickinz at April 8, 2002, 1:35 am
Topic: Grand Virtual casis still giving $20 monthly bonus? Forum: Winner Online

How many do you have on your pc at one time?
How many do you play each month?
What do you usually deposit?

I have had problems having more than 3-4 on. And when I redownload new ones, they come up as the previous casinos.

Thanks.


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Posted by: ricky at April 7, 2002, 9:20 pm
Topic: Grand Virtual casis still giving $20 monthly bonus? Forum: Winner Online

They still give away the monthly bonus and still pay within one month.

I play all of them every month!!


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Posted by: vickinz at April 7, 2002, 8:24 pm
Topic: Grand Virtual casis still giving $20 monthly bonus? Forum: Winner Online

Those $30 for $1 signup casinos used to give $20 monthly bonuses...have they stopped?

For the record, all payments made and received within a month.

New one called Calico; but I find those links copied and pasted often don't work; so go to The Pig Post where it's posted if you want to try it.
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