| Posted by: chinkybruin at June 4, 2002, 4:53 pm | | Topic: virtual casino trustworthy? Forum: Winner Online |
hey Syd, i know you and everybody else here are just trying to help, thanks. im just saying what i think and you guys happen to have different opinions..it's no big deal.
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| Posted by: Syd at June 4, 2002, 2:55 pm | | Topic: virtual casino trustworthy? Forum: Winner Online |
Chinky: I am in no way defending these people. I was simply stating what my interpretation was when I utilized this bonus.
I still think they are are one sleezy operation and hope that you will pursue every avenue available to get your money - at the ery least the $2500. Your interpretation may be absolutely correct, you have the email as proof - use it.
One of your best arguments here would be that if you weren't entitled to the 3 bonuses - why did they put them in your account?
Best of Luck to You
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| Posted by: chinkybruin at June 4, 2002, 2:48 pm | | Topic: virtual casino trustworthy? Forum: Winner Online |
what you guys are saying are opinions anyways, in no where in the email does it say i'm not allowed to use all 3 coupons. if you read all the lines literally, i did not break any rules and that is the bottom line, i did not have any pending withdraws and that's that, that is ALL it said, i doesnt imply anything else but that. you guys are reading way too much into this, and you know what, it doesnt even matter, even if i'm correct, i still won't get paid, these guys are azzzholes who don't have the funding to pay people. i'm convinced i won't see a penny of my winnings nor deposit money.
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| Posted by: Syd at June 4, 2002, 2:41 pm | | Topic: virtual casino trustworthy? Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by chinkybruin:
it would not be possible to use all 3 coupons.
Chinky: I think that is the point...they never intended for a person to be able to use all 3 coupons....if they won.
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| Posted by: chinkybruin at June 4, 2002, 2:27 pm | | Topic: virtual casino trustworthy? Forum: Winner Online |
i don't think your interpretation is correct becuase look at the time frame, players would have to deposit all 3 coupons between 04/24/02 to 04/27/02, that's 4 days, if i had to use the first coupon, withraw from first coupon, it would take over 4 days alone, it would not be possible to use all 3 coupons. the first time depositor section does not apply to me.
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| Posted by: Syd at June 4, 2002, 1:33 pm | | Topic: virtual casino trustworthy? Forum: Winner Online |
When I played that bonus, my assumption was that if you lost all of the first one...then you could use the 2nd,3rd,etc.
My interpretation was exactly the same as Jydeman's. I cashed out with the first one.
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| Posted by: joeyl at June 4, 2002, 11:51 am | | Topic: virtual casino trustworthy? Forum: Winner Online |
Upon reading my post again,it could be misconstrued.
I trust Jydeman.He has spoken much sense,ever since i got here.
My point was:if he is a shill,then i guess just about everyone could be too.
It was meant as complimentry.A complement.
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| Posted by: Jydeman at June 4, 2002, 11:17 am | | Topic: virtual casino trustworthy? Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by KX:
But you have to admit itīs ery strange since they do offer all three coupons (probably time sensitive ones) but in that case you are not allowed to use them all at once, and itīll take a ery long time to be able to use all.
Sure - unless you lose your first two deposits. Then you can do all three within half an hour.
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| Posted by: KX at June 4, 2002, 11:03 am | | Topic: virtual casino trustworthy? Forum: Winner Online |
Jydeman; Yepp. Iīm afraid your interpretation is the one the casino is using... But you have to admit itīs ery strange since they do offer all three coupons (probably time sensitive ones) but in that case you are not allowed to use them all at once, and itīll take a ery long time to be able to use all.
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| Posted by: Jydeman at June 4, 2002, 10:38 am | | Topic: virtual casino trustworthy? Forum: Winner Online |
Sorry guys. For once I don't have to twist my brain to understand how the casino interpretes a rule.
After you use your first coupon you will fall under the rules of previous depositors
I think it's pretty clear. And anyone who accuses me of being an RTG-shill can go funk themselves - like Damian would have said.
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| Posted by: joeyl at June 4, 2002, 7:51 am | | Topic: virtual casino trustworthy? Forum: Winner Online |
Hi KX.You are speaking from common sense.
Jydeman is speaking from Virtual Casino's interpretation,level of common sense.I think...
Therein lies the difference i guess.
I wish i could understand Casino terms as well as Jydeman.
[This message has been edited by joeyl (edited 06-04-2002).]
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| Posted by: Jydeman at June 4, 2002, 6:39 am | | Topic: virtual casino trustworthy? Forum: Winner Online |
I think I know what a pending payout is
I was specifically thinking of this sentence:
After you use your first coupon you will fall under the rules of previous depositors
I read as if you can use one coupon. Withdraw. Wait for approval. Use another coupon. Withdraw. Wait for approval.......
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| Posted by: KX at June 4, 2002, 6:28 am | | Topic: virtual casino trustworthy? Forum: Winner Online |
Jydeman; A pending payout is when heīs done a withdrawal but not received it. I donīt think he had done any withdrawals before using the coupons, but I might be wrong.
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| Posted by: Jydeman at June 4, 2002, 5:43 am | | Topic: virtual casino trustworthy? Forum: Winner Online |
Isn't this the problem:
You may use all three coupons, if you do not have a payout pending from one of the coupons above. After you use your first coupon you will fall under the rules of previous depositors.
You didn't get paid before using the next coupon.
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| Posted by: chinkybruin at June 3, 2002, 11:52 pm | | Topic: virtual casino trustworthy? Forum: Winner Online |
under their rules section in the website, it states:
"To qualify for the bonus, a player must wager the deposit plus associated bonus amount NINE times (craps, baccarat and roulette wagers are not included). For example, for $100 deposit and associated $50 bonus, the player must wager a total of $1350 (excluding craps, baccarat and roulette wagers), to qualify for the bonus."
keyword "wager", so i believe it is ok to play these games but the wagered amounts doesn't count toward the bonus.
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| Posted by: chinkybruin at June 3, 2002, 11:47 pm | | Topic: virtual casino trustworthy? Forum: Winner Online |
you might be right, but at the casinos i've played at (not RTG sites) the no craps no roulette rule only applies to the wager requirements.
website is www.casinosupportcenter.com
it's a really crappy website
and here is the email....if you read under the previous depositor part, i am suppose to receive 250+500+1000=1750 i believe plus my deposit.
Super promo week from Virtual Casino!
Get over $325.00 FREE! three days only!
So hurry this won't last long!
From 04/24/02 to 04/27/02! http://casinosupportcenter.com
Super promo 1
Deposit $25.00 get $75.00 FREE!
May be used by all customers!
Use coupon code "T4Q6N"
Please read the rules at the end of this e-mail!
Super Promo 2
Deposit $50.00 get $100.00 FREE!
May be used by all customers!
Use coupon code "AM7AH"
Please read the rules at the end of this e-mail!
Super Promo 3
Deposit $100.00 get $150.00 FREE!
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| Posted by: nvaughan3 at June 3, 2002, 11:28 pm | | Topic: virtual casino trustworthy? Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by chinkybruin:
correct me if im wrong, but usually when a casino says no roulette, craps or bacarrat, it means the wagers you place one those games will not count toward the amount needed to filfill the minimum wager requirement to cashout the bonus money, so that doesnt apply to me since i wagered plenty on other games.
most people know which casino im referring to when i say irtual casino. their website is weird, it's not irtualcasino.com, i don't want to give out their website because i don't want to advertise for them.
and if you're on a roll and winning non-stop, would you stop? and besides, what i was thinking was...i was allowed to win 10x the deposit from these bonus coupons, but i also had deposited money before these coupons, and there were no restrictions on those deposits, so i wanted to see how they would handle that. as long as i kept my balance above 2g's i wasn't going to stop winning while i was on a roll.
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| Posted by: chinkybruin at June 3, 2002, 11:19 pm | | Topic: virtual casino trustworthy? Forum: Winner Online |
damn, i had no idea about the crap RTG has been getting, maybe i should read up on the casinos i play instead of just going for the bonuses offered in the emails. i was just reading through the other posts and it doesn't look good for me. i hope i can at least get my deposit back now....SHAAAAAAT
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| Posted by: tedm at June 3, 2002, 9:56 pm | | Topic: virtual casino trustworthy? Forum: Winner Online |
Yeah maybe no-pass WAS the way to go but now that you have exposed it to half the gambling world it won't be the way to go anymore.
Milk it for all it's worth though...while it works
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| Posted by: chinkybruin at June 3, 2002, 9:52 pm | | Topic: virtual casino trustworthy? Forum: Winner Online |
i was wondering, would anybody actually play at a online casino without taking the bonus money? because the bonus restrictions seem to be the problem of everything. i know this topic has probably been brought up plenty of times, but i just dont feel comfortable not taking the bonus money before i start playing since the casino always seem to have an edge to begin with.
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| Posted by: chinkybruin at June 3, 2002, 9:49 pm | | Topic: virtual casino trustworthy? Forum: Winner Online |
i just went to anotehr RTG site and started with $50, now i have it up to $600 and i am relunctant to keep playing and you know why. this sucks, i knwo i can win more. my strategy is working for these RTG sites, the no pass is the way to go, it's still working. i bet this casino wont pay me either after they find out the mess at irtual.
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| Posted by: chinkybruin at June 3, 2002, 9:44 pm | | Topic: virtual casino trustworthy? Forum: Winner Online |
correct me if im wrong, but usually when a casino says no roulette, craps or bacarrat, it means the wagers you place one those games will not count toward the amount needed to filfill the minimum wager requirement to cashout the bonus money, so that doesnt apply to me since i wagered plenty on other games.
most people know which casino im referring to when i say irtual casino. their website is weird, it's not irtualcasino.com, i don't want to give out their website because i don't want to advertise for them.
and if you're on a roll and winning non-stop, would you stop? and besides, what i was thinking was...i was allowed to win 10x the deposit from these bonus coupons, but i also had deposited money before these coupons, and there were no restrictions on those deposits, so i wanted to see how they would handle that. as long as i kept my balance above 2g's i wasn't going to stop winning while i was on a roll.
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| Posted by: nvaughan3 at June 3, 2002, 8:40 pm | | Topic: virtual casino trustworthy? Forum: Winner Online |
A few points:
1. What do their T&C's say about what games are allowed on bonus play? Most casinos exclude craps and roulette which you say you played. If they do disallow those games and you played them during your bonus playthough, its their right to deny you bonus/winnings if you broke their terms.
2. What casino is this exactly? You dont give a URL and a google search on "virtual casino" doesnt help. www.virtualcasino.com doesnt load anything.
3. Again, if their terms clearly stated (as you note) you cant cashout more than 10x deposit, then thats pretty clear. I dont mean to be an ass but why would you keep on playing if you knew this?
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| Posted by: tedm at June 3, 2002, 6:33 pm | | Topic: virtual casino trustworthy? Forum: Winner Online |
The stipulation on cashing in a maximum of 10x the deposit is so ridiculous. Even more so in the case of RTG where almost no one plays slots or keno.
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| Posted by: chinkybruin at June 3, 2002, 12:11 pm | | Topic: virtual casino trustworthy? Forum: Winner Online |
i played pretty much all the games, craps, blackjack, carribean, roulette, 3 card poker, pai gow....pretty much all.
i will email them today, thanks tedm
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| Posted by: tedm at June 3, 2002, 8:10 am | | Topic: virtual casino trustworthy? Forum: Winner Online |
File a complaint with the OPA and give them all the correspondance you have with the casino. Also send an e-mail to disputes@realtimegaming.com
Correct me if I am wrong Mary but these guys are too new for the OPA to have a position, although I know there is some talk about some of the past lives a few of these people have had.
RTG has a number but I don't have it with me at the moment. Mary probably can post it.
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| Posted by: Durham at June 3, 2002, 7:35 am | | Topic: virtual casino trustworthy? Forum: Winner Online |
Did you play anything besides craps when you were qualifying for the bonus?
Quote:
so if you guys want, try betting the no pass line in craps, i think i was getting about 70% no pass after playing for basically 2 whole days, so it wasn't just a streak, i noticed the craps game has a high probability of rolling the 7. hope someone can profit as much as i did and break them.[/B]
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| Posted by: Mrracetrack at June 2, 2002, 11:30 pm | | Topic: virtual casino trustworthy? Forum: Winner Online |
chinkybruin,
You stated;
"i doubt that 10g's can bankrupt a casino"
A lot of the "lesser known" places
out here in "Cyberland" would be
hard pressed to come up with $100.
They are undercapitalized from the start,
dumb enough to think they can make
"millions" owning an on line casino,
and never have any intentions of
actually "paying" someone.
Even the "honest" places are "short"
of cash on many occasions. That's
usually when the "excuses" start.
The lack of an actual "business plan"
creates many of the problems these
on line casino's seem to frequently
have.
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| Posted by: chinkybruin at June 2, 2002, 11:27 pm | | Topic: virtual casino trustworthy? Forum: Winner Online |
by the way, since these guys are screwing me over, i hope they go bankrupt. so if you guys want, try betting the no pass line in craps, i think i was getting about 70% no pass after playing for basically 2 whole days, so it wasn't just a streak, i noticed the craps game has a high probability of rolling the 7. hope someone can profit as much as i did and break them.
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| Posted by: chinkybruin at June 2, 2002, 11:06 pm | | Topic: virtual casino trustworthy? Forum: Winner Online |
i doubt that 10g's can bankrupt a casino considering how casinos come up wtih excuses to not pay the players, and besides, i doubt i'll see a penny of that winning, i'd take even just the 2'g in a heart beat.
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| Posted by: Syd at June 2, 2002, 10:35 pm | | Topic: virtual casino trustworthy? Forum: Winner Online |
Chinky: Yes I did receive the "allocated" winnings which was no more than 10X deposit. Mine was not even in the neighborhood of your numbers...you are going to bankrupt them! Great win by the way...keep pushing for that $2500.
Is Virtual on the OPA's not recommended??
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| Posted by: chinkybruin at June 2, 2002, 10:13 pm | | Topic: virtual casino trustworthy? Forum: Winner Online |
tedm please help me out, i guess you know a bit about these casinos, any suggestions? how do i contact this tom bailey guy? and are there any other options?
and SyD....so did you end up receiving any of your winnings?
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