| Posted by: Trader v1.1 at September 19, 2002, 7:14 am | | Topic: CON promotion Forum: Winner Online |
This is a good example of how you should carefully read the terms of a promotion, even those that seem simple. I was somehow thinking any black "10" with the ace of spades qualified, not just a black jack.
Thanks to the several posters who noticed my error.
If one of 32 blackjacks qualify, and blackjack occurs every 20.7 hands the alue of this promotion would be about .014% after allowing for the possibility of a push when dealer also has blackjack, roughly 5% of player blackjacks. This also assumes that you bet only the $50 minimum. This is similar to the alue of the "double comp points" offers that are quite common. With this situation occuring once in about $33,100 in wagers, many people will lose their entire deposit before they get that elusive $50.
There is nothing wrong with offering such modest promotions. Let the player beware.
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| Posted by: KM at September 19, 2002, 6:15 am | | Topic: CON promotion Forum: Winner Online |
Caruso the Apologist at work again.
If CON allows people like this to be "in charge" for even a weekend, then there is something ery wrong.
TERMINATING PEOPLE'S ACCOUNTS is something that is not for underlings. I would expect that ALL TERMINATIONS would have to go over the desk of the boss.
Who do you work for Caruso? Who are you?
KM
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| Posted by: DrOakland at September 18, 2002, 10:41 pm | | Topic: CON promotion Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by Clayman:
I don't want to get off the subject but there are 64 ways to get BJ on your first 2 cards and Ace of Spades with a black jack are 2 of them. I guess you mean 1 out of 8 when you already have an Ace of Spades. But 1 out of 32 of all player BJ's. Wouldn't that be right?
Oops, looks like I went brain dead. you're absolutely right.
DrO
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| Posted by: Clayman at September 18, 2002, 3:00 pm | | Topic: CON promotion Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by DrOakland:
No, it's 1 of 8 that qualifies: half of the blackjacks that include the Ace of spades (except when pushed). the payoff is effectively 2 1/2 to 1 on a $50 bet. The promotion is worth 1/4 of a "blackjack pays 2 to 1" deal, so adds maybe 0.6% expectation for the player.
DrO
I don't want to get off the subject but there are 64 ways to get BJ on your first 2 cards and Ace of Spades with a black jack are 2 of them. I guess you mean 1 out of 8 when you already have an Ace of Spades. But 1 out of 32 of all player BJ's. Wouldn't that be right?
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| Posted by: caruso at September 18, 2002, 1:36 pm | | Topic: CON promotion Forum: Winner Online |
It's too early to be passing judgement on those C.O.N incidents. It seems the boss is currently absent, and he's left some massively incompetent underlings in charge - going by his response to the Aceshigh situation.
Since the other poster committed no wrongdoing, I would imagine Vahe will at the ery least unlock his account, even if he doesn't extend him any more promotions.
An explanation as to WHY all this suddenly went pear-shaped with the boss out the office for a few days would be in order, and considering the negative publicity C.O.N. are currently receiving as a result, I dare say Vahe will get onto it as soon as he can.
Watch this space.
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| Posted by: DrOakland at September 18, 2002, 12:50 pm | | Topic: CON promotion Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by Redouble:
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You will have to throw down a lot of $50 chips to expect even one $50 bonus. Only 1 of 8 player blackjacks will qualify, and even that is out if dealer also has blackjack.
It's actually only 1 of 32 player blackjacks that will qualify.
No, it's 1 of 8 that qualifies: half of the blackjacks that include the Ace of spades (except when pushed). the payoff is effectively 2 1/2 to 1 on a $50 bet. The promotion is worth 1/4 of a "blackjack pays 2 to 1" deal, so adds maybe 0.6% expectation for the player.
DrO
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| Posted by: KM at September 18, 2002, 9:57 am | | Topic: CON promotion Forum: Winner Online |
Why would anyone do what CON is asking you to do? After their theft of multiple player's moolah, we should avoid CON like the plague.
KM
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| Posted by: Clayman at September 18, 2002, 9:05 am | | Topic: CON promotion Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by Redouble:
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You will have to throw down a lot of $50 chips to expect even one $50 bonus. Only 1 of 8 player blackjacks will qualify, and even that is out if dealer also has blackjack.
It's actually only 1 of 32 player blackjacks that will qualify.
You're right redouble. And with one BJ every 20.7 hands, you'd have to wager $33,100 over 662 hands before you could expect your $50 bonus.
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| Posted by: Redouble at September 18, 2002, 7:39 am | | Topic: CON promotion Forum: Winner Online |
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You will have to throw down a lot of $50 chips to expect even one $50 bonus. Only 1 of 8 player blackjacks will qualify, and even that is out if dealer also has blackjack.
It's actually only 1 of 32 player blackjacks that will qualify.
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| Posted by: Trader v1.1 at September 18, 2002, 7:03 am | | Topic: CON promotion Forum: Winner Online |
This promotion is pretty hard to abuse and it is not worth ery much, but it is creative and simply described. If it generates more play for CON it will be successful for them.
You will have to throw down a lot of $50 chips to expect even one $50 bonus. Only 1 of 8 player blackjacks will qualify, and even that is out if dealer also has blackjack.
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| Posted by: gamblinboi at September 17, 2002, 9:09 am | | Topic: CON promotion Forum: Winner Online |
hunterman read the other post by aceshigh about what's going on with him before you decide to partake in this promo.........
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| Posted by: Hunterman at September 17, 2002, 9:00 am | | Topic: CON promotion Forum: Winner Online |
I received an email about this promotion. I wonder how many people will play this promotion because the $50 per hand rule will eliminate most people from participating.
Get a BlackJack combination of an Ace of Spades and either a Jack of
Spades or Jack of Clubs, and you'll receive an extra $50 Bonus in addition
to the usual 3-2 payout for BlackJack!
When: September 19, 00:00 - 23:59 CONT.
Simple Rules: Minimum hand wager of $50. $50 Bonus excluded on Split
and Push hands.
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