| Posted by: ohdreampop at January 28, 2003, 3:19 pm | | Topic: Mainstreet Vegas, anyone got paid recently? Forum: Winner Online |
I got paid to Neteller by Twin Aces after about 2 weeks. Not terrible, but not super fast. I'm not complaining because it was off of their no deposit promo.
Edit: I forgot to mention that "George" is the manager/pitboss there. I spoke to him directly regarding my cashout and he was ery helpful. I would just call and ask to speak to him.
[This message has been edited by ohdreampop (edited 01-28-2003).]
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| Posted by: hhcfreebie at January 28, 2003, 12:08 pm | | Topic: Mainstreet Vegas, anyone got paid recently? Forum: Winner Online |
I played on both sites.
They refund my deposit after a week. After that, they keep using excuses not to pay the winning or bonus (no deposit). I've supplied all the documents they need, yet they are still "considering" my withdraw. The sign up match bonus never show up after my first deposit BTW.
avoid them if you can.
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Online Casino Newbie.
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| Posted by: DizzyD at January 16, 2003, 10:30 am | | Topic: Mainstreet Vegas, anyone got paid recently? Forum: Winner Online |
Twin Aces paid neteller dep.+winnings in 4 days
Slots,Sun, and Vegas paid deposits to neteller in 4 days but winnings still waiting approval since 1/4.
Approved 1/10
Winnings back to Neteller 1/13 all three casinos.
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| Posted by: KX at January 15, 2003, 1:44 pm | | Topic: Mainstreet Vegas, anyone got paid recently? Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by hhcfreebie:
Let's back to our topic shall we?
I have $105 with them and I pulled them out without bonus after I see this thread.
Anyone got paid?
Let´s read what´s posted before answering shall we?
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| Posted by: KX at January 15, 2003, 8:37 am | | Topic: Mainstreet Vegas, anyone got paid recently? Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by The Original Mary:
*Yes, a lot of the software providers get a % of casino revenue for their software, instead of just selling it outright.
Do you know any providers that do NOT take a royalty fee? I know Oddson used to be proud of their low royalty (I believe it was 18%), and they should be, why would anyone license their software otherwise? Now they must have a hard time when Playtech offer a much nicer looking game at a royalty of 15(?)%. I wonder what the fact that Playtech is rigged will lead to...
Will operators see a possibility of increasing their profits by running rigged games or will they believe that players will avoid it due to the bad rep? I really hope the latter is the correct answer.
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| Posted by: KX at January 15, 2003, 8:31 am | | Topic: Mainstreet Vegas, anyone got paid recently? Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by caruso:
Meaningful "rumour", KX.
In what way was it not meaningful? You know that I´ve been playing Mainstreet for a long time. I´ve never had to wait even close to this long to get paid... I´m still interested to know the truth behind why the payments were delayed too.
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| Posted by: Clayman at January 15, 2003, 7:33 am | | Topic: Mainstreet Vegas, anyone got paid recently? Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by caruso:
No, naturally I can't share private money matters in public. The "small change" refers to excess amounts beyond weekly withdrawal limits, so I can't see any problem from my end. Things are as they should be.
See - I actually found that helpful.
Anyway you're right - things are as they should be. Yesterday they said 2 weeks, today they paid $2K+ in full.
Seems they pay the "small change" beyond the weekly withdrawal limits every 3 weeks like clockwork.
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| Posted by: caruso at January 15, 2003, 4:21 am | | Topic: Mainstreet Vegas, anyone got paid recently? Forum: Winner Online |
No, naturally I can't share private money matters in public. The "small change" refers to excess amounts beyond weekly withdrawal limits, so I can't see any problem from my end. Things are as they should be.
If you never deposit more than you're comfotable with losing you'll never have this kind of anxiety, and this panic stricken talk about "rumours" can be avoided.
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| Posted by: Clayman at January 14, 2003, 8:48 pm | | Topic: Mainstreet Vegas, anyone got paid recently? Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by The Original Mary:Ah, let me tell you something about inventing casino games. Many of the new card games are invented by regular gaming fools like you and me. Not university trained thinktank human behaviorists with big degrees in psychology and stats.
Along with inventing the game itself, the inventor also invents the analysis of the game. Some will hire a second party (such as the Wiz) to check the numbers. This may involve writing analysis software as well.
I don't know anything about the inventor of Blackjack Switch (except that I applaud his or her knowledge of human nature). Nor do I know anything about the range of rules ariations found in BJ Switch; as you know, that can affect BS too.
Playtech's offering of BJ Switch is unusual in that Playtech has properly licensed it from the inventor. (Good!) This leads me to believe that it is most likely to be fairly dealt as a card game, because if it weren't, the inventor would have legal grounds of all sorts... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: The Original Mary at January 14, 2003, 7:15 pm | | Topic: Mainstreet Vegas, anyone got paid recently? Forum: Winner Online |
On his page discussing BJ Switch, the Wiz does point out that there are siginificant differences between the game as offered by Playtech and as played in Atlantic City, and that his strategy applies only to the Playtech ersion. He also notes that the figure for the house edge is from Karel Janecek, the game's mathematician.
http://www.thewizardofodds.com/game/bj_switch.html
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| Posted by: The Original Mary at January 14, 2003, 6:24 pm | | Topic: Mainstreet Vegas, anyone got paid recently? Forum: Winner Online |
*Yes, a lot of the software providers get a % of casino revenue for their software, instead of just selling it outright.
Ah, let me tell you something about inventing casino games. Many of the new card games are invented by regular gaming fools like you and me. Not university trained thinktank human behaviorists with big degrees in psychology and stats.
Along with inventing the game itself, the inventor also invents the analysis of the game. Some will hire a second party (such as the Wiz) to check the numbers. This may involve writing analysis software as well.
It has happened in the past that the inventor's numbers were wrong. That is why there are some 100%+ payback ideo pokers in Atlantic City.
I don't know anything about the inventor of Blackjack Switch (except that I applaud his or her knowledge of human nature). Nor do I know anything about the range of rules ariations found in BJ Switch; as you know, that can affect BS too.
The online casinos often ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Clayman at January 14, 2003, 6:09 pm | | Topic: Mainstreet Vegas, anyone got paid recently? Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by caruso:
Payments all up to date at my end, give or take small change. If you're going to sweat it, don't bet it. Ah, sagacity in rhyme.
Nice rhyme but is it give or take on the small change?
Should you choose to share any meaningful details of your up-to-date-payments to alleviate any anxiety felt by those as yet unpaid, that might actually be more helpful than poetry.
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| Posted by: Clayman at January 14, 2003, 6:00 pm | | Topic: Mainstreet Vegas, anyone got paid recently? Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by The Original Mary:
*Yes, there are "authoritative" sources for BJ strategy; the Wizard of Odds' site has them;
Thanks Mary for clearing up those first 2 points for me. As to the third, I was looking for sources of Basic Strategy on the new Blackjack Switch game which I abbreviate BJS, not regular BJ BS with which I'm pretty comfortable in all its multiple manifestations. I suspect, without buying it, that the BJSwitch card at custom strategy cards is the same as the Wiz's. And it's the Wiz's BS that I have questions about. It differs in several aspects from other ery knowlegable, but unpublished, sources of the game. But it is the only published strategy I know about for Blackjack Switch in its entirety.
If the Wiz had used his own play/switch strategy based on his EV's in his table, he only would have answered 4 out of 5 questions right in a quiz given by the creators of the game on rge21.com a few months back which is what started my q... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: The Original Mary at January 14, 2003, 3:32 pm | | Topic: Mainstreet Vegas, anyone got paid recently? Forum: Winner Online |
*RTG costs more than Playtech for the casino. My sources say twice as much.
*It was Futurebet that instituted the $5k "insurance", not RTG.
*Yes, there are "authoritative" sources for BJ strategy; the Wizard of Odds' site has them; I think so does www.customstrategycards.com; Their work is dereived from common sources.
Differences in strategies reflect differences in rules or differences in emphasis upon composition dependent hands s ease of memorization; those differences are not going to be significant in terms of return. As some folks say, six of one or a half dozen of the other.
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| Posted by: Clayman at January 14, 2003, 1:10 pm | | Topic: Mainstreet Vegas, anyone got paid recently? Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by KX:
Clayman; Interesting about the Wiz. I slap myself for taking correctness for granted. I agree, the effect of the count can NOT outweight the 5%.
For some masochistic reason I still like BJS. Heck I'll probably blow another $100 on it tonite. Just wish there was one authoritative source for BS of BJS since we all know there is only ONE correct play and ONE correct BS. BTW the plays that differ are 11 s 9 (hit), 12 s 5 & 6 (stand), A,5 s 6 (double), A6, s 5 (double)and 6,6 s 4 (split).
Was just checking my files and getting all choked up seeing how last July I'd have my whole 7K plus profit all back in 7 CALENDER days. Turnaround time allowed me to buy $1000/day every single day from 6/25/02 thru 08/05/02. When i got turn-around time of 39, 31 31 and 26 days I slowed way down.
Just our luck that right after RTG puts in that $5000 insurance (do I have the right group?), they switch to Playtech leaving us back out in the Wild, Wild We... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: KX at January 14, 2003, 11:59 am | | Topic: Mainstreet Vegas, anyone got paid recently? Forum: Winner Online |
Clayman; Interesting about the Wiz. I slap myself for taking correctness for granted. I agree, the effect of the count can NOT outweight the 5%.
I´ve seen a strange reversal too. I had cashed out almost $2k from TA about a week before the software change. The documents were sent and the withdrawal approved. At the same time I cashed out a much smaller amount (maybe $500) from Las Vegas.
I received the $500 on time, but for some reason the larger amount was reversed back to my account with the new software...
Would be interesting to hear their explanation to both you and "Kavaman" regarding why your full deposits have not been returned. They still claim that those payments should be fast...
I also agree about the notifications. It´s a hassle to be forced to login to the Neteller account continuously just to see if the money is there or not.
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| Posted by: kavaman at January 14, 2003, 11:14 am | | Topic: Mainstreet Vegas, anyone got paid recently? Forum: Winner Online |
Well the 9 working days went and more. Now was the 11th working day and over 2 weeks since my withdrawal at lasvegasusa. I havent even received my original deposit back. I emailed them about it and they said. We will pay you within 2 weeks. I was , like, what happened with the 9 working days. Then they got pretty rude, and told me about lack of patience also.
And im only withdrawing 100$ which 50$ is my deposit. So this doesnt seem to good!
-kavaman
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| Posted by: Clayman at January 14, 2003, 11:05 am | | Topic: Mainstreet Vegas, anyone got paid recently? Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by KX:
Clayman; Woooo... I´ve only used the Wiz chart and I´ve assumed that that was the correct strategy. Which situation are you refering to with the 5 percents?
The hand in question is 2,8 & 8,6 s a dealer 6. Or, if switched, 2,6 & 8,8 s 6. The Wiz has the former at 0.1609 and the latter at 0.2094 (4.85%). So he says the correct play is to switch. This was part of a 5 question quiz on rge21.com a few months back. The creator of the game said the correct decision is to not switch, rationalising that the difference between his answer and the Wiz's was essentially due to the infinite deck assumption the Wiz used ersus the sensitivity of a 6 deck shoe to having 2 6's and 2'8s and a 2 missing. Although I believe BJS to be more sensitive than BJ to each change of True Count, i.e. each change in TC gives the player more advantage than it does in BJ, I really don't see how a TC of 0.5 (using Hi-Lo) could overcome a 4.85% edge. In regular BJ, each TC is wor... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: KX at January 14, 2003, 10:31 am | | Topic: Mainstreet Vegas, anyone got paid recently? Forum: Winner Online |
Clayman; Woooo... I´ve only used the Wiz chart and I´ve assumed that that was the correct strategy. Which situation are you refering to with the 5 percents?
Interesting about the new casinos...
I hope that you, just like me, will keep this thread updated!
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| Posted by: Clayman at January 14, 2003, 10:21 am | | Topic: Mainstreet Vegas, anyone got paid recently? Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by KX:
I´m ery surprised though, I thought they were going ery well since they opened so many new casinos...
What I fear the most is that this is a gigantic scam. Starting off a number of new casinos, attracting tons of bonus hunters and then leaving the business w.o. paying any winnings.
I´ve been playing almost only BJ Switch and that game is definetely unfair. Previously I thougt Playtech dealt a fair game so I did choose Switch because it has a good payout and it´s fun to play a different game once in a while. Unfortunately my results in combination with the fact that Playtech VP is now proven to be rigged makes me pretty sure that the Switch game is rigged. I believe the ordinary BJ is less rigged, since it is easier to prove that BJ is rigged than switch.
I talked to them today. It made me even more scared. They used to claim that they pay after 9 business days, now the focus is on AFTER 9 business days. They refused to discuss the problems whith the ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Jetset at January 14, 2003, 10:05 am | | Topic: Mainstreet Vegas, anyone got paid recently? Forum: Winner Online |
"Lacking patience"??? When a legit player thinks that a month is too long to wait for a payout? That's impertinent and doesn't show much customer sensitivity, but maybe it's an inexperienced CSR.
Whatever, I'm with KX that this sort of behaviour in the past has been a blueprint for a casino experiencing cashflow hassles and it is therefore worrying.
Regarding Clayman's remark "Does Playtech guarantee their licensees in any way?" I can't recall them announcing anything specific in that line, so it's a alid question given these circumstances and the anxiety it creates.
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| Posted by: KX at January 14, 2003, 9:02 am | | Topic: Mainstreet Vegas, anyone got paid recently? Forum: Winner Online |
Clayman; It was only based on my own conclusions after having heard that there were more ppl than me not having been paid and also based on their lame excuses.
I´m ery surprised though, I thought they were going ery well since they opened so many new casinos...
What I fear the most is that this is a gigantic scam. Starting off a number of new casinos, attracting tons of bonus hunters and then leaving the business w.o. paying any winnings.
I´ve been playing almost only BJ Switch and that game is definetely unfair. Previously I thougt Playtech dealt a fair game so I did choose Switch because it has a good payout and it´s fun to play a different game once in a while. Unfortunately my results in combination with the fact that Playtech VP is now proven to be rigged makes me pretty sure that the Switch game is rigged. I believe the ordinary BJ is less rigged, since it is easier to prove that BJ is rigged than switch.
It scares me to read about everyones waiting for money, ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Clayman at January 14, 2003, 7:56 am | | Topic: Mainstreet Vegas, anyone got paid recently? Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by KX:
When did you play Twin Aces? Was it recently?
Still waiting on 2300+ since 12/17 cash-out.
What bothers me more is, although I've received $5K of my purchase back, $2K of pending amount is also purchase. Winnings are the $300+. (I played Blackjack Switch for a change but didn't do nearly as well as I usually do playing good old BJ).
Just hope they are not a ictim of "too-good" bonuses.
My latest weekly collection call yielded "within 2 weeks" and they think "it's just a scheduling problem". Geez, the 2 weeks prior it was always the same "next week". Now it seems like the longer you wait the farther away you are.
Is there cash processor in the UK? That could help explain why wires don't clear.
Does Playtech guarantee their licensees in any way?
But, they've paid me over $85K in the past (p+w) so I'm still hopeful.
KX - Where are your "rumors" of financial difficulty com... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: KX at January 13, 2003, 8:48 am | | Topic: Mainstreet Vegas, anyone got paid recently? Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by DizzyD:
Twin Aces paid neteller dep.+winnings in 4 days
Slots,Sun and Vegas paid deposits to neteller in 4 days but winnings still waiting approval since 1/4.
When did you play Twin Aces? Was it recently?
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| Posted by: Wagerthru at January 12, 2003, 11:14 pm | | Topic: Mainstreet Vegas, anyone got paid recently? Forum: Winner Online |
Won $250 on $100 deposit at Twin Aces on 11/7. Got deposit two weeks later. Still waiting for $250. Very creative excuses.
Deposited $100 at Vegas USA, lost $20. Got the $80 back within two weeks.
Ain't holding my breath.
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