| Posted by: Clayman at August 8, 2003, 5:14 am | | Topic: William Hill-help Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by bonuslover:
It is impossible to double charge yourself by pressing the 'submit' button twice
Could be - I only offered it as a possibility. I imagine it might be obvious by looking at the bank stmt. I know in many places they tell you explicitly do not hit the button twice, along with don't even hit the "Back" button while you are in a secure area.
Just because it might say "Transaction is in progress" is no guarantee that hitting the button twice won't cause 2 transactions. Sometimes the buffer can fill with keystrokes or mouse clicks and execute them after the first one is completed.
Have you ever actually hit the button twice?
Like you say, he could be just one out-of-control ex-gambler.
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| Posted by: andreww at August 8, 2003, 1:56 am | | Topic: William Hill-help Forum: Winner Online |
It's sickening to watch posters ridiculing a player who has had - to say the least - a ery bad run, possibly got cheated out of a lot of money. I only played once at Willian Hill, and I must say the number of times the dealer won in a row was kind of 'supernatural'. William Hill is certainly not a casino that I would recommend.
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| Posted by: bonuslover at August 8, 2003, 1:41 am | | Topic: William Hill-help Forum: Winner Online |
I am just saying, this guy probably got a serious gambling problem and lost everything. It is more than common to hear people of his kind saying 'did I lose that much?'.
That's why gamblersanonymous was set up.
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| Posted by: jpsartre at August 8, 2003, 12:55 am | | Topic: William Hill-help Forum: Winner Online |
Don't know why I should try it - never even mentioned that could be the problem....
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| Posted by: bonuslover at August 7, 2003, 10:41 pm | | Topic: William Hill-help Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by allCasinosCheat:
Do you really believe WH would overgharge 35k?
Right on the nail.
It is impossible to double charge yourself by pressing the 'submit' button twice. As a new feature of their cashier, the player will get a message saying "transaction in progress please wait" whenever the player initiates a second transaction before the first is done. Try it, jpsartre and Clayman. Hence my attention was drawn to ships1 emphasis on "Sometimes I have had 25 losing hands before a small win".
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| Posted by: Clayman at August 7, 2003, 7:09 am | | Topic: William Hill-help Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by ships1:
When I have gone to deposit money and pressed the deposit button on several occassions it has said transaction already in progress.
Pressing that deposit button a few times can turn a $200 deposit into a $1000 in no time.
Did u ever notice "extra money" in your casino account?
Are the debits on the bank statement alot of the same amount at the same time?
Sounds like a mess - I'd take a screenshot of your bank statement and start sending it to the e-cash guys of the casinos. Your bank statement is proof of what happened. Work backwards from it.
You had the extra 35000 in your bank account? - no NSF notices from the bank during this time? Don't know if that's good (no NSF charges) or bad (you would have been alerted to the situation sooner).
Any activity since the date of your last bank statement?
The fact you don't know exactly how much you intended to deposit bothers me a little.
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| Posted by: eek at August 6, 2003, 12:35 pm | | Topic: William Hill-help Forum: Winner Online |
It sounds like you are using the switch system.
If so, they have a code of practice. http://www.switch.co.uk
If ecash dont help, contact your bank.
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| Posted by: jpsartre at August 6, 2003, 9:44 am | | Topic: William Hill-help Forum: Winner Online |
ships1:
Again, I can only urge you to call E-cash to sort this out. I assume your in the UK in which case the phone-number is 00 800 0874 0274.
Another thing: Don't worry if the statements look funny. I just tried to check my statement at a Crypto casino and I simply cannot figure out their system and how they get the amounts they do.
It does sound strange that WH would overcharge you such a great amount but if the mistake is on their side I'm sure the matter will be resolved.
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| Posted by: bonuslover at August 6, 2003, 8:29 am | | Topic: William Hill-help Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by Mrracetrack:
Bonuslover & AllCasinosCheat...
Frick & Frack of the gambling industry...
Combined knowledge of "gaming issues"...
ZERO....
Mrracetrack
I really don't know what I said wrong in my post. I was just trying to discuss about the topic. I enjoy occasional sacarstic humour but sometimes it is uncalled for. I really don't understand why Max consistently allow you and zrapture and caruso to bash other members who share same rights as you
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| Posted by: ships1 at August 6, 2003, 8:15 am | | Topic: William Hill-help Forum: Winner Online |
In answer to the comments made to my original message.What I am saying is I cannot get the statments online with will hill,only a few dates and those statements are incorrect,they actually show amounts all beit small 60gbp , 80gbp missing. ie:200 in casino acount, then a game code showing a loss of 10 leaving a balance of 110 instead of 190.When I have gone to deposit money and pressed the deposit button on several occassions it has said transaction already in progress. I never deposited a large amount of money into the account, always 100 - 200 gbp at a time.As far as I was concerned in all this totaled approx 15,000 not 50,000. I am fully aware of how to play casino games I have bet many times before but in land based casinos.
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| Posted by: allCasinosCheat at August 6, 2003, 8:10 am | | Topic: William Hill-help Forum: Winner Online |
mrracerack, in every topic there is at least one post of yours where u call me, bl or others stupid.
I would be glad to argue with you however my style of arguing would get me a permanent ban on WOL thats why I have no comment for you.
I also thought that he played a lot more than he wanted, not that he was charged more. Do you really believe WH would overgharge 35k?
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| Posted by: magnate at August 6, 2003, 8:04 am | | Topic: William Hill-help Forum: Winner Online |
Ship1, I am ery sorry to hear of your problems. Your story saddened me. I sure hope some rays of good fortune appear. I also know the sorrow of loses. Fortunately, I have not had the same results with online wagering that you mentioned currenly happening.
Quote: Originally Posted by ships1:
I joined william hill casino 4 weeks ago.In that time I thought I had spent 15,000 gbp.My bank statement arrived and it turns out to be just short of 50,000 gbp. I have never cashed out a penny from the casino.
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| Posted by: jpsartre at August 6, 2003, 7:54 am | | Topic: William Hill-help Forum: Winner Online |
hm... That's not the way I read it. He also says that money have gone missing. I assume that didn't mean they've gone missing because they were lost. Maybe ships1 can enlighten us?
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| Posted by: Mrracetrack at August 6, 2003, 7:52 am | | Topic: William Hill-help Forum: Winner Online |
Bonuslover & AllCasinosCheat...
Frick & Frack of the gambling industry...
Combined knowledge of "gaming issues"...
ZERO....
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| Posted by: jpsartre at August 6, 2003, 7:17 am | | Topic: William Hill-help Forum: Winner Online |
As usual the two posters above me seem to be missing the point. The main problem is that the player deposited £15000 but was charged £50000, not whether he played perfect BJ or was chasing losses.
ships1:
Did you call E-Cash about this? That's the company in charge of the financial transactions of William Hill. You can find the number on their homepage.
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| Posted by: allCasinosCheat at August 6, 2003, 6:47 am | | Topic: William Hill-help Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by ships1:
I joined william hill casino 4 weeks ago.In that time I thought I had spent 15,000 gbp.My bank statement arrived and it turns out to be just short of 50,000 gbp. I have never cashed out a penny from the casino.I tried to download and print off statements but can only get 4 different dates of transactions. On these dates there are mistakes and money seems to have gone missing.The games have just not been allowing me to win.Sometimes I have had 25 losing hands before a small win.I don't know what to do about any of this.I am even more concerned after reading articles about Cryptologic.Can anyone offer me any advise.I was new to online gambling and feel at a dead end with what to do.I am now totally broke.I live in the uk.
Well, you are in big trouble, that's for sure. Żou were ery unreasonable to your money. And now you are broke. Makes me think you were chasing your losses.
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| Posted by: bonuslover at August 6, 2003, 4:25 am | | Topic: William Hill-help Forum: Winner Online |
You are NEW to online gambling and you are broke?
This is news to me. My advise:
1, learn how to play blackjack correctly
2, contact will hill to see if they can do anything about your debt, most casinos are willing to receive some $ instead of none (if you are really broke)
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| Posted by: ships1 at August 6, 2003, 3:40 am | | Topic: William Hill-help Forum: Winner Online |
I joined william hill casino 4 weeks ago.In that time I thought I had spent 15,000 gbp.My bank statement arrived and it turns out to be just short of 50,000 gbp. I have never cashed out a penny from the casino.I tried to download and print off statements but can only get 4 different dates of transactions. On these dates there are mistakes and money seems to have gone missing.The games have just not been allowing me to win.Sometimes I have had 25 losing hands before a small win.I don't know what to do about any of this.I am even more concerned after reading articles about Cryptologic.Can anyone offer me any advise.I was new to online gambling and feel at a dead end with what to do.I am now totally broke.I live in the uk.
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