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Posted by: k2djay at September 19, 2003, 7:19 am
Topic: help grand banks and black widow are trying to steal my money Forum: Winner Online

Just received my cashin from 06-02-03. I know that's a long time but don't give up!
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Posted by: magnek at September 19, 2003, 6:53 am
Topic: help grand banks and black widow are trying to steal my money Forum: Winner Online

so much business...so little money...ho hum
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Posted by: Devast at September 19, 2003, 6:47 am
Topic: help grand banks and black widow are trying to steal my money Forum: Winner Online

Well, I'm now into week 7 of waiting for my cashout. Seems to me that if you have so much business that you are 7 weeks behind on your cashouts you are probably making enough money to hire someone to help process those cashouts.

Do they even think about how absurd it sounds when they tell you that they have a seven week backlog of cashouts? How many thousands of checks could you hand write, hand address, stamp and mail in 7 weeks?? Probably one for every person in the state of Montana. Idiotic.

De
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Posted by: kavaman at September 18, 2003, 12:50 pm
Topic: help grand banks and black widow are trying to steal my money Forum: Winner Online

Same old Backlog excuse
It was there a year ago when i played

-kavaman


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Posted by: coulthard at September 18, 2003, 12:44 pm
Topic: help grand banks and black widow are trying to steal my money Forum: Winner Online

Withdrawals seemt to normally take about 6 weeks.
Sometimes they do pay fast, but not ery often in my experience.
At the momment they say they have a backlog of withdrawals so it is taking longer.
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Posted by: Devast at August 28, 2003, 3:03 pm
Topic: help grand banks and black widow are trying to steal my money Forum: Winner Online

Slow pay is obvious. I've been waiting about a month for a small cash-out (under $500). Do these guys ever pay, or am I just sol?

Devast
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Posted by: Jetset at August 24, 2003, 12:35 am
Topic: help grand banks and black widow are trying to steal my money Forum: Winner Online

Just to refresh your memory on that conversation CM had with an exec from Grand Banks / Black Widow / Sterlinghouse casinos, he revealed that every time you take one of their bonuses you are deliberately paid slower and slower.

These guys have a long history of slow pay.


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Posted by: k2djay at August 23, 2003, 3:23 pm
Topic: help grand banks and black widow are trying to steal my money Forum: Winner Online

Don't expect anything honest out of Grandbanks. They owe me over $1100 since cashin of June 2. The difference is I played their $50 no deposit promo. Tried Gamling grumbles at Gambling.com and was totally ignored. Really not surprised after reading about their manager at Casinomeister. My emails to Grandbanks have always been answered with "sorry about the delay but we will pay"
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Posted by: bruce bautch at August 23, 2003, 3:14 pm
Topic: help grand banks and black widow are trying to steal my money Forum: Winner Online

well i have abit more information on the case after talking to neteller yesterday.

they told me grand banks thought i and another person (whom i do no), where linked together because we played bj the exact same way.

the above statmentis somewhat correct, we play the exact same way basically. its basically a robotic kinda way, where you have outlines on your bets, and somewhat change it yourself by the feel of the game, but not alot. basically you just follow the guidlines of the system.

this system of course still doesn't beat a negatively expected game, but with a bonus, of course it makes money.

its funny because he hasn't played there in along time, as they stopped offering him bonuses.

but they have bumped me up twice for ip. and have been sending me bonus offers every week for ahwile now.

i am just wondering, is this a big thing playing like another person? the same computers where never used, all the adress information is of course different, ...
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Posted by: Jydeman at August 23, 2003, 2:50 pm
Topic: help grand banks and black widow are trying to steal my money Forum: Winner Online

Bruce - Casinomeister may be willing to give it a try. Fill out the form on his site http://www.casinomeister.com/problems.html

Don't expect to hear from him until early next week.
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Posted by: Woody00 at August 23, 2003, 8:17 am
Topic: help grand banks and black widow are trying to steal my money Forum: Winner Online

NETeller is perhaps overly cautious in protecting their clients by locking their accounts. I'm not aware of anyone having a serious problem as their account will be reopened following contact and erification.

Its good to know that suspicious activity could lead to locking your account, since if a third party gets your ital information they would have to do something suspicious to raid your account.
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Posted by: basic at August 23, 2003, 8:02 am
Topic: help grand banks and black widow are trying to steal my money Forum: Winner Online

All online casinos Suck. We should all ban all online casinos until every casino pays all the legit winnings to all of their players since online gaming started.

Hows that!
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Posted by: jpsartre at August 23, 2003, 5:05 am
Topic: help grand banks and black widow are trying to steal my money Forum: Winner Online

Neteller closes accounts as often as normal people change their underwear.
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Posted by: richardadc at August 23, 2003, 4:46 am
Topic: help grand banks and black widow are trying to steal my money Forum: Winner Online

What i don't understand is how could Neteller close your account on the word of a third party without evidence. Fair enough they opened it again, but what would happen if a casino made up some evidence - would Neteller just close it.

Doesn't seem right to me. Especially when the majority of us keep a lot of money in our Neteller accounts.
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Posted by: caruso at August 23, 2003, 1:59 am
Topic: help grand banks and black widow are trying to steal my money Forum: Winner Online

GB carried a clause in their T & C a year or so ago barring the use of betting progressions, as they considered them "advantageous". It was pointed out and ridiculed at WOL, and the clause anished within the hour! From your post, it would seem they remain committed "closet progressionists", however. Many clueless players and casinos DO believe that negative progressions work, particularly when the player has a long run with "average" results and keeps winning.

Anyway, aside from that, GB were established crooks a long time ago. I'm afraid it wasn't too smart to rack up a big balance here - you should have done more research.

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Posted by: bruce bautch at August 22, 2003, 11:53 pm
Topic: help grand banks and black widow are trying to steal my money Forum: Winner Online

Grand Banks Casino is fully licensed under the laws and jurisdiction of the Dutch Antilles. Grand Banks complies fully with all requirements put forward by government regulations regarding online gaming.

do you think the above can help me. can i contact these people and see if the goverment can help me.

i have no idea why grand banks is pulling this, neteller unlock my account because they no i am legit.( still a low blow from grand banks to do this)

i can't believe they are doing all this because of similar game style. i do play an exact system of increasing and decreasing bets, found this alot better than playing by emotions.

so perhaps someone does play like i do, i have been accused by irtual of using a robot, asking me how i can be so good at blackjack.

of course i don't use a robot, or would even no where to get one.

not sure if maybe grand banks is believing i am doing something i am not suppose too. i just use a strict betting pattern system,...
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Posted by: allCasinosCheat at August 22, 2003, 11:33 pm
Topic: help grand banks and black widow are trying to steal my money Forum: Winner Online

yeas black widow and grand banks are 'not so good' casinos.
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Posted by: bruce bautch at August 22, 2003, 4:10 pm
Topic: help grand banks and black widow are trying to steal my money Forum: Winner Online

they kept sending me bonuses and saying what a alubale player i was. plus i thought playtech casinos were as safe as them come.

are these two casinos the exception or something? thanks to anyone that replies to this thread
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Posted by: kavaman at August 22, 2003, 3:53 pm
Topic: help grand banks and black widow are trying to steal my money Forum: Winner Online

That much money on them? weird.
How did you get so much money in them?
That kind of behaviour, locking neteller account is really bad behaviour, hope you can get them pay your money.

-kavaman


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Posted by: bruce bautch at August 22, 2003, 3:24 pm
Topic: help grand banks and black widow are trying to steal my money Forum: Winner Online

just got an e-mail from grand banks saying they are closing my account because there is similar game play on another account.

i don't understand this at all? what do they mean that another player plays exactly like me so they are shutting down my account?

i was moved up twice for a ip player, and have $18,247 combined in grand banks and blackwidow.

grand banks also called neteller telling them to close my account. neteller did this just to be on the safe side. i called up neteller today and got everything straightned out with them and got my account with neteller re-opened, with the top of the secuirty department saying she would call grand banks and tell them i am completly legit and see where it goes from there.

i asked her what grand banks told them, and she said there were ery ague, and that neteller only closed my account than, so that i would call and straigthen it out.

so what are your guys experinences with grand banks and black widow, am i ever going...
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