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Posted by: Bethug at September 22, 2003, 1:39 pm
Topic: New York Casino-The rotten apple Forum: Winner Online

Playtec casinos are like , throwing your money in a ocean.

i am sorry sirrus that u got banned, i like your post
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Posted by: StatMapper at September 21, 2003, 4:23 pm
Topic: New York Casino-The rotten apple Forum: Winner Online

My own results at Playtech Switch are less than stellar, to say the least. I have a net loss of 68 units in 2852 total units bet, over some 1150+ rounds, all played utilizing proper bs and the calculator courtesy of the wizard's site. This translates into a return of only 97.6%. Small sample size, for sure, but given the tedium involved in using the calculator, and the early poor returns, definitely not my cup of tea.
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Posted by: Mrracetrack at September 21, 2003, 2:10 pm
Topic: New York Casino-The rotten apple Forum: Winner Online


Quote: Originally Posted by Sirius:
Well I wasn't until quite recently but when I tried logging in it said account was locked or banned. I created a new one and wrote a message in the MG thread but it was deleted and the account was banned again!

Sirius...

C.M. bans anyone who doesn't agree with him, or presents an opposing iew on a topic.

He tries to run his board like a dictator,
banishing all the dissenters from his fantasy kingdom.

C.M. is completely clueless about most issues.


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Posted by: raje at September 21, 2003, 11:55 am
Topic: New York Casino-The rotten apple Forum: Winner Online

if playtech is called rigged what woud u say a bossmedia is?

demango,i think it's $15 + b

[This message has been edited by raje (edited 09-21-2003).]
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Posted by: DealerBusts at September 21, 2003, 9:16 am
Topic: New York Casino-The rotten apple Forum: Winner Online


Quote: Originally Posted by DeMango:
I have to really question the possibility of the software not being on the up and up if say on BJ Switch the HA is -.05 as the Wiz says and then the casino (ex Kiwi) gives a .10 cashback. Do the math that's a player advantage. No one here bragging about making money at Playtech! Another red flag is some hugh High Roller Bonuses. At least 6 casinos offering $500 for a $2500 deposit. If the math is correct on $30,000 WR you make $150 in addition to the bonus. Haven't heard a peep from anyone making that kind of EV. So back to the question: Will there be a TG report on Playtech BJ and/or BJ Switch?



I hope there is some report regarding BJ Switch because I have a hard time believing the house edge to be as low as the theoretical. It seems almost impossible to get any sort of win with the game and after playing over 3000 rounds and being down 114 units. I plan to keep playing and see whether i've just been unlucky.
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Posted by: Sirius at September 21, 2003, 8:54 am
Topic: New York Casino-The rotten apple Forum: Winner Online


Quote: Originally Posted by Bethug:
Sirus , u block from bet2gamble?


Well I wasn't until quite recently but when I tried logging in it said account was locked or banned. I created a new one and wrote a message in the MG thread but it was deleted and the account was banned again!
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Posted by: DeMango at September 21, 2003, 8:26 am
Topic: New York Casino-The rotten apple Forum: Winner Online

I have to really question the possibility of the software not being on the up and up if say on BJ Switch the HA is -.05 as the Wiz says and then the casino (ex Kiwi) gives a .10 cashback. Do the math that's a player advantage. No one here bragging about making money at Playtech! Another red flag is some hugh High Roller Bonuses. At least 6 casinos offering $500 for a $2500 deposit. If the math is correct on $30,000 WR you make $150 in addition to the bonus. Haven't heard a peep from anyone making that kind of EV. So back to the question: Will there be a TG report on Playtech BJ and/or BJ Switch?

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DeMango
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Posted by: Bethug at September 21, 2003, 7:03 am
Topic: New York Casino-The rotten apple Forum: Winner Online

Sirus , u block from bet2gamble?

about playtec, every real player i know , thinks it rigged, just like u say sting it starts out well then bam the dealer cant be bet.

playtec , boss dont play like rtg or intercasino, no way does it

right now micro is the casino to play at if u want to make money, i guess they unfixed the game now.

anyway dont still trust them they can flip the switch.

playtec is fixed, and i can prove it with this simple question , who has won the slot jack pot, who has won over 5000?? no one

dont play playtec, it is fixed like some boss media casinos.

players dont listen to know portals owners that tell u it not, cause half them dont even play , cause they know it fixed too

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Posted by: Sirius at September 21, 2003, 5:03 am
Topic: New York Casino-The rotten apple Forum: Winner Online

The VP analysis may not have been alid because of the low expected alues and other problems (I posted about it before) but I don't see how you could say it was rigged on the initial deal when it looked advantageous to the player. There was about a 4% chance of one of the 6 tests having a probability as low as that even if all the ideo poker software tested was dealt randomly!

Everyone seems to think it showed Playtech VP was rigged but it's ridiculous to say that.

The first post I made at Bet2Gamble forum was to correct the webmaster there when he said it was unfair by US standards and he must have been swayed by all the other people saying the same thing with no actual evidence.

I also remember when he was saying he knew the owners of 777.com etc. and when my results over several sessions had a probability of around 0.00002 he kept advertising them. I played not believing other reports that it was rigged but it seemed ery likely after my results! By the way, he deleted my pos...
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Posted by: Stingray at September 21, 2003, 4:14 am
Topic: New York Casino-The rotten apple Forum: Winner Online


Quote: Originally Posted by caruso:
If you play at rigged casinos you've only yourself to blame. We haven't seen the OCA Playtech BJ report yet, only VP. VP was horrendous, but "inconclusive" - as most stats are. I stopped playing Playtech after that.

You make your own decisions.

Well as i said i dont want to go around claiming it is rigged just because i and my friend have had bad results,this could be SD,but i have a feeling it is more.
Can you provide alink to the VP report and when is the BJ report coming out?


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Posted by: caruso at September 20, 2003, 5:14 am
Topic: New York Casino-The rotten apple Forum: Winner Online

If you play at rigged casinos you've only yourself to blame. We haven't seen the OCA Playtech BJ report yet, only VP. VP was horrendous, but "inconclusive" - as most stats are. I stopped playing Playtech after that.

You make your own decisions.
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Posted by: Stingray at September 20, 2003, 4:08 am
Topic: New York Casino-The rotten apple Forum: Winner Online

I played a load of playtechs last year with appalling results.I think i only finished above the D+B only twice and not by much.
I played New York casino and wiped out quite fast.
Now a friend of mine who is getting into BH played there yesterday and told me that he has lost the bonus and deposit before even wagering 1300.playing 5$ a hand.Said he did ok at the start but did went into a massive losing streak.Losing 4 of every 5 hands.
I always tried to be reasonable about my results at playtech saying it was standard deviation and the like.
But after seeing posts here and my friends experience I really believe something ery dodgy is going on here.
I think i should warn my friend off playing at playtech anymore or am i being paranoid?
Will the bonus amount be enough to overcome the cheating (if there is cheating) ?

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