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Posted by: slycin56 at October 4, 2003, 6:10 am
Topic: Good RTG casinos Forum: Winner Online

KX - just a couple of things.

- No, this is not a common rule; at least not with the casinos I work with.

- This is not a hypothetical situation; it happened to one of my players the other day because of a $5 (2%) profit, but I'm not giving out any more details than that.

- I have never had "plenty of scumbag operations" on my sites, only casinos that perhaps some WOL posters didn't agree with; but I have a much larger source of information than public messageboards.

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Posted by: KX at October 4, 2003, 12:25 am
Topic: Good RTG casinos Forum: Winner Online

Slycin; Wow, I think you are really removing ants and eating elephants here In the past you've had plenty of scum bag operations on your list, and now you are going to remove this casino because of this T&C thing? There are plenty of casinos out there with that rule, and I can't see anything wrong with it. If you are ahead and want to wager some more, just bet small.

As long as the rules are not hidden, but rather clearly stated in the T&Cs I really can't see the problem. I don't see them as conflicting rules either, as long as you don't have evidence of them actually locking ppl out for barely meeting wagering requirements (THAT would be a good reason for putting them off the list).
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Posted by: slycin56 at October 3, 2003, 9:46 pm
Topic: Good RTG casinos Forum: Winner Online

I'm going to have to go with MaxFalcon on this one regarding Ruby Dragon.

I put them back on my site a few months ago as a test, but based on information I received and discussions the other day, they're coming back off (soon as I get to work on my site ).

They have 2 conflicting rules in their bonus Terms and Conditions that appear to trap a player in the "no-win" zone, and Ruby Dragon appears to have no interest in changing their rules.

They have the standard "no bonus abusers" rule there, but the "trap" rule states that the player *must* make a profit on their bonus in order to be able to cash out any of it - even if that profit is only $1, per their site.

So the player meets playthrough requirements plus a little and is ahead; then starts going downhill and stops to cashout in accordance with that profit rule. Now the player gets called a bonus abuser and his cashout of the bonus gets denied.

I don't know whether the other c...
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Posted by: Dirk_Dangerous at October 3, 2003, 5:01 pm
Topic: Good RTG casinos Forum: Winner Online

The Casino Online is also a good RTG site. LMAO
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Posted by: hhcfreebie at October 3, 2003, 12:24 pm
Topic: Good RTG casinos Forum: Winner Online


Quote: Originally Posted by maxfalcon:
I have heard from reliable sources that Ruby Dragon has some strange terms & conditions. Withdrawals refused for "bonus abusing", etc... I can provide more info but in private. I can understand that they must protect themselves against real bonus abusers, but I think they are putting almost all players that receive a bonus in the same ship.

Hampton casino is a good choice and their special/exclusive (coupon) bonus is really great.



Now that make me really nervous. I had played their sign up bonus and loose all my bonus. They allowed me to withdraw my deposit after WR is made, which I did.
It took a few days for them to deny my cashin and ask for a fax back form. I hope everything turns out all right...
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Posted by: gamblinboi at October 3, 2003, 12:15 pm
Topic: Good RTG casinos Forum: Winner Online

hampton/portofino are SCAMMERs.

Let me reiterate what happened.

I received an offer when they switched to RTG. Free 10$ and a 100% match. I redeemd the free 10$ and played and lost it all. Then I Tried the 100% match. The coupon in the email didn't work, so I chatted CS and they told me to deposit and they'd give me the bonus manually. I played through and won $170. Fax back form later, and they denied my withdrawal. I called them and they told me that I had abused the bonus by combining the free 10 and the 100% match. BS ! They told me to call back in 2 hours. So I did.. and in those 2 hours, my name appeared on their bonus abuser list (which they don't add to, according to them!). So my winnings were oid. I got my deposit back. I made a stink on the message boards and they paid me 70$ of the $170 I had won there. They STILL owe me $100. If you are thinking of playing with them, keep in mind that ifyou win you might all of a sudden appear on their bonus abuser list and your winnings w...
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Posted by: KX at October 3, 2003, 5:44 am
Topic: Good RTG casinos Forum: Winner Online

Btw smacker, how much effort have u put in to this? Have u called them? Tried to reach ppl at higher levels in the hierarchy?
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Posted by: KX at October 3, 2003, 5:43 am
Topic: Good RTG casinos Forum: Winner Online


Quote: Originally Posted by thesmacker:
Yes infact I do KX because I am one of them. I also know of 4-5 other cases of unpaid players who have not been recommpensated by the new management. If people wish to buy a casino with a tarnished image, either pay back past stolen money or suffer the consequences of a bad reputation. KX if they are so first class, why did they not go back and look into the old unpaid cases as a means of building a positive rep?

OK, that is no good. My guess is that they had no idea of the olumes of debt the new management had aquired. Probably they had no possibilities of paying it all back. Strange that they did it selectively though, I would have guessed they would either pay all or noone.
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Posted by: maxfalcon at October 3, 2003, 5:31 am
Topic: Good RTG casinos Forum: Winner Online


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Portofino / Hampton - decent operations, no recent problems. Hampton didn't make a good start, but seems fine now.

Extreme / Heat / Ruby Dragon. Appalling group for a long time. Under Warren Cloud they stole enough to feed a third world country, and to the best of my knowledge nothing was ever resolved. Currently, they're paying without problems, and quickly. I've had no problems here.

I have heard from reliable sources that Ruby Dragon has some strange terms & conditions. Withdrawals refused for "bonus abusing", etc... I can provide more info but in private. I can understand that they must protect themselves against real bonus abusers, but I think they are putting almost all players that receive a bonus in the same ship.

Hampton casino is a good choice and their special/exclusive (coupon) bonus is really great.

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Posted by: thesmacker at October 3, 2003, 5:25 am
Topic: Good RTG casinos Forum: Winner Online

Yes infact I do KX because I am one of them. I also know of 4-5 other cases of unpaid players who have not been recommpensated by the new management. If people wish to buy a casino with a tarnished image, either pay back past stolen money or suffer the consequences of a bad reputation. KX if they are so first class, why did they not go back and look into the old unpaid cases as a means of building a positive rep?
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Posted by: KX at October 3, 2003, 12:59 am
Topic: Good RTG casinos Forum: Winner Online

I agree with Bone-Us here. NetClub is a high quality casino nowadays. The new management did in fact pay back alot of the money owed by the previous management. They owed me money which was paid promptly when the new management took over.

thesmacker; do u know for a fact that there are players who were owed that did not get paid?
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Posted by: Dirk_Dangerous at October 2, 2003, 8:54 pm
Topic: Good RTG casinos Forum: Winner Online

Merlin Casino. They are the best, LOL
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Posted by: Bone-Us at October 2, 2003, 10:06 am
Topic: Good RTG casinos Forum: Winner Online


Quote: Originally Posted by thesmacker:
Bone-us, playing at net club is bad enough with all the money theyve stolen in the past, but recommending it is just downright mean. They may be under "new" ownership, but untill they pay the thousands previously owed to players they are rogue and should be avoided!!!! If a person wants to buy a craphole casino with a terrible rep then they should face the penalty of having to make good all the outstanding money that has been stolen. Untill they do this NO ONE as players should support them, it is promoting casinos to make hit and runs.

I was not aware that they had these problems in the past. MY experiences have only been positive. That's all I'm saying. I think anyone that was owed money by them should contact them about it now and see what their response is. If there are still outstanding complaints I will rescind anything I've said that could be considered a recommendation.
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Posted by: DavidMalloy at October 2, 2003, 9:26 am
Topic: Good RTG casinos Forum: Winner Online

Firstly please let me introduce myself as David Malloy a representative of Cirrus Casino and I currently help manage their affiliate program.

A poster earlier said they could not withdraw their funds ASAP, and this is because they choose a high bonus, which had play through and withdraw clauses associated with this bonus.

In all casino cases the more competitive the bonus is on offer the more requirements associated with that bonus and that is why Cirrus Casino offers an array of bonuses, so we meet the needs of each and every player.

What are your thoughts on the ideal bonus and play through requirements?

Please feel free to call the CS team on 1.800.480.2498.and we will be more than happy to answer your questions regarding Cirrus Casino.
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Posted by: thesmacker at October 1, 2003, 9:34 am
Topic: Good RTG casinos Forum: Winner Online

Bone-us, playing at net club is bad enough with all the money theyve stolen in the past, but recommending it is just downright mean. They may be under "new" ownership, but untill they pay the thousands previously owed to players they are rogue and should be avoided!!!! If a person wants to buy a craphole casino with a terrible rep then they should face the penalty of having to make good all the outstanding money that has been stolen. Untill they do this NO ONE as players should support them, it is promoting casinos to make hit and runs.
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Posted by: hhcfreebie at October 1, 2003, 9:18 am
Topic: Good RTG casinos Forum: Winner Online

My withdrawl request with ruby dragon has been denied without any reason. I might have to create another thread for this if they don't pay me.

edit: it turns out they need the fax-back form. why didn't they say it in the first place? I hope everything turns out to be all right.

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Posted by: caruso at September 22, 2003, 10:18 am
Topic: Good RTG casinos Forum: Winner Online

?????????????????

You'd be INSANE to play at Gamblers' Lobby - they're flat out of cash. They've been mailing out ridiculous promos for weeks now. I get a $1000 offer once every few days. Also, the boss, Kent Spaulding, has used blackmail tactics in the past for paying players - "post something positive or I won't pay you"; "retract that statement or I won't pay you". Of course, right now he isn't paying anyone at all because he hasn't got any money.

If you deposit here you'll just be funding the retirement clock Spaulding's going to be buying for himself sometime soon.

Here's a list I posted in another thread of decent RTGs:-

iNetBet - seems to be everyone's favourite. My results are a pile of crap there, but I'll go with the majority consensus.

SciFi - ery bad start, but they've entirely cleaned up their act these last two years. Excellent ideo poker at nickels, fast payments and good CS.

Geisha / Grand Aces - new to the stable,...
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Posted by: sarebear at September 21, 2003, 1:09 pm
Topic: Good RTG casinos Forum: Winner Online

hello ..... back in february i recieved 10 free at gamblers lobby for me birthday. i have never deposited there. i was playing max on nickles for the pickem poker game. i won a 4 for a kind for 600 credits($30) kept playing and i hit a royal flush 6000 credits ($300) so i called them and i had played through the money 10x (my bday bonus)
anf i requested a cashout of 250$ . after sending in my info(id) i checked my neteller account in 2 days the money was there!!!!!!!!!!
so i would have to say this is one of the best rtg casinos.
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Posted by: messiah at September 21, 2003, 12:37 pm
Topic: Good RTG casinos Forum: Winner Online

Yep it was in regard to cirrus casino, should read T&C more carefully I guess :-)
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Posted by: ChaChing at September 21, 2003, 12:26 pm
Topic: Good RTG casinos Forum: Winner Online

in regards to Cirrus, Messiah???
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Posted by: messiah at September 21, 2003, 11:30 am
Topic: Good RTG casinos Forum: Winner Online

After emailing why my withdrawal was denied,I got an answer, had asked for a withdrawal smaller then the bonus. Didn't know this at that moment. Seems to be my mistake. Ok everything clear to me now.
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Posted by: messiah at September 21, 2003, 11:00 am
Topic: Good RTG casinos Forum: Winner Online

I know that these have $1 table games :
- delano
- scifi
- geisha lounge
- grand aces
- betmax
- cirrus
- connecto
- palace of chance

Played on a few, never had to be paid out,if I hadn't been greedy I was well up on all I've played. The table games look really fair to me.
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Posted by: DeMango at September 21, 2003, 10:37 am
Topic: Good RTG casinos Forum: Winner Online


Quote: Originally Posted by ciraman:
DeMango,

The 2 RTG's I play with <$5 BJ are iNetBet and Nostalgia. iNetBet offers $1 minimums for all games if you email support and request it. See their promo page to get the exact details. Nostalgia casinos offer $2 21 games, all other games are $5 minimum.

Have never had any problems getting paid from either one. iNetBet is ery fast, always the next day or sooner.

Thanks Ciraman! Will give iNetBet a shot shortly!

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Posted by: ciraman at September 21, 2003, 9:02 am
Topic: Good RTG casinos Forum: Winner Online

DeMango,

The 2 RTG's I play with <$5 BJ are iNetBet and Nostalgia. iNetBet offers $1 minimums for all games if you email support and request it. See their promo page to get the exact details. Nostalgia casinos offer $2 21 games, all other games are $5 minimum.

Have never had any problems getting paid from either one. iNetBet is ery fast, always the next day or sooner.
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Posted by: Bone-Us at September 21, 2003, 8:17 am
Topic: Good RTG casinos Forum: Winner Online

I've had excellent customer service from Net Club casino lately. They really went out of their way to please the customer. They've paid in the 3 to 10 day range in the past.

Note: I've been made aware of previously unpaid customers at Net Club so until that is settled, I wouldn't recommend them.

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Posted by: DeMango at September 21, 2003, 8:09 am
Topic: Good RTG casinos Forum: Winner Online

Gentle people:
Can anyone tell me if there are RTG casinos that accept less than a five dollar wager at BJ ? Or is $5 - $200 the normal spread? Thanks!

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Posted by: slotski at September 21, 2003, 7:54 am
Topic: Good RTG casinos Forum: Winner Online

no, it doesnt mean its sticky even though it is ague.
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Posted by: messiah at September 21, 2003, 7:40 am
Topic: Good RTG casinos Forum: Winner Online

Bonuses will be credited to the Player's Real Account as Casino Credits only, unless otherwise stated.

Doesn't this mean the bonus is sticky, or am I wrong in this case. When I read this I thought the bonus couldn't be withdrawn????

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Posted by: kavaman at September 21, 2003, 7:16 am
Topic: Good RTG casinos Forum: Winner Online

First of all Gl and Ga casino bonuses arent sticky...
Sticky bonus=bonus you cant withdraw at all.
Second of all.
Best rtg at the moment is inetbet. I suggest playing there if you want to play rtg.


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Posted by: messiah at September 21, 2003, 4:58 am
Topic: Good RTG casinos Forum: Winner Online

Any of you know a good RTG that pays in time, I played a few and asked a payout from cirrus, but they denied it, in which I lost my deposit after playing it all through. Played also at Grand aces,Geisha lounge and delano, was up way ahead after meeting wr on all three of them, but you know greed just got in and lost it all.
delano : dep 500 + 500 bonus upto 1250, killed by greed
geisha lounge : dep 100 + 100(sticky) upto 750, idem
grand aces : 100+100(sticky), you know the drill by now.
Has anyone been paid by them or had some problems.
Because I'm planning to play there again, for the software is cool enough to get it up in a fair way.
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