| Posted by: dominique at December 6, 2003, 3:04 pm | | Topic: FortyPlusCasino Warning Forum: Winner Online |
Ok, I think we don't need two posts going with exactly the identical content, so I won't repeat my question here. I asked it in the other thread.
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| Posted by: acesjackpot2 at December 6, 2003, 1:37 pm | | Topic: FortyPlusCasino Warning Forum: Winner Online |
Just a quick note for any players out there about this thread.
Many people pretend to be your friend so you trust them. Trust is money in the gaming world. If you want to deal with something, either do it as a group of players (the only real power you have) and boycott Odds On or find someone trustworthy with a good track record and I would investigate that person igorously.
As a last note, to my knowledge Odds On owns English Harbour as well as the ones listed below. These are not casinos owned by someone who has licensed the software, they are owned by Odds On.
Silverdollar
CaribbeanGold
Aposte
AllPoker
Superslots
Millionaire
Casinobleublancrouge
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| Posted by: dominique at December 6, 2003, 10:06 am | | Topic: FortyPlusCasino Warning Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by cipher
Dominique, I would seriously advise you that these people at Odds On Software are out of time.
To even think about letting this matter fester until sometime in the second half of the month is absolute lunacy.
Cipher
I know, I am an idiot setting myself up for a major bashing here.
It is why I do not normally olunteer to mediate except for people who went through my own sites.
I am acting my conscience here - I know I have a chance at this and I will pursue it.
The only thing that matters in the end is that injured parties are helped.
Forty plus is dead - there will be no new ictims at forty plus. The current ictims deserve a chance at redress. And if it takes me a month or more, it's the right thing to do.
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| Posted by: cipher at December 6, 2003, 8:18 am | | Topic: FortyPlusCasino Warning Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by dominique
Please, guys, I am trying to negotiate this still.
These posts are NOT helpful to the players awaiting resolution!
Anyone seeking help in this situation - please write to me at dominique@virtualgamingconference.com
The situation does not look rosy, but please don't burn my bridges while I still hold out hope to resolve this.
I am negotiating for both players and affiliates who are hurt by this.
I expect no further news of progress until sometime in the second half of this month.
I will post all progress - please do NOT deluge me with mail, just send me your complaints and check back here for news.
I will contact all injured parties back by mail if and when I need more than the basic information about what happened. So if you see mail from me - it's a good thing.
Cross your fingers!
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| Posted by: Gamblegirl at December 6, 2003, 7:34 am | | Topic: FortyPlusCasino Warning Forum: Winner Online |
That's ery nice and all dominique but are you really best suited to mediate in this instance? You seem to be a little out of touch with things, considering there have been rumblings about this for at least two months:
27/11/03
Quote: Originally Posted by dominique
Sure. The previous owners of blackjack.com figured they could put up a casino under that name and it would take care of itself because of the wonderful search engine traffic that comes with such a name.
Think again! Running a casino requires work and money and dedication regardless of name.
After sitting there for a long time with little to show for it, the owners let themselves be talked into selling it. The new owners are partial to chartwell software.
This doesn't mean oddson isn't good software - you have english harbour, silver dollar, super slots, caribbean gold, all poker, forty plus, millionaire casino, bleu, blanc et rouge, cassino aposte and possibly others. All well establ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: dominique at December 6, 2003, 7:23 am | | Topic: FortyPlusCasino Warning Forum: Winner Online |
Please, guys, I am trying to negotiate this still.
These posts are NOT helpful to the players awaiting resolution!
Anyone seeking help in this situation - please write to me at dominique@virtualgamingconference.com
The situation does not look rosy, but please don't burn my bridges while I still hold out hope to resolve this.
I am negotiating for both players and affiliates who are hurt by this.
I expect no further news of progress until sometime in the second half of this month.
I will post all progress - please do NOT deluge me with mail, just send me your complaints and check back here for news.
I will contact all injured parties back by mail if and when I need more than the basic information about what happened. So if you see mail from me - it's a good thing.
Cross your fingers!
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| Posted by: Gamblegirl at December 5, 2003, 1:50 pm | | Topic: FortyPlusCasino Warning Forum: Winner Online |
Oddly enough (or perhaps not) Englishharbour was here this afternoon (they post in the webmasters forum) and are probably not at all pleased.
And again, remember microgaming had to be pulled into the Tropika mess kicking and screaming by PwC and the OPA into assuming responsibilty for cleaning it up, which they eventually did after initial resistance.
Every software provider makes this claim and then changes their tune once the waves of criticism hit. Patience.
Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose.
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| Posted by: Jetset at December 5, 2003, 1:06 pm | | Topic: FortyPlusCasino Warning Forum: Winner Online |
The Casinomeister and I have had similar responses, and it is clear that Odds On think they can get away with simply washing their hands of the Forty Plus debacle.
At least we now know for certain that these shysters have failed and bugged out in the most unprofessional, uncommunicative and dishonest manner possible as far as their players are concerned.
With strong and reputable operations like English Harbour in their stable, one would have thought that Odds On's head honcho Pierre Gagnon could have at the ery least brokered a bail out of some sort - they must have seen this coming if they monitor their licensees at all.
It is disgraceful that these days a supposedly serious turnkey provider can take this sort of "hands off" position.
I hope that they will have the business sense to reconsider their decision not to get involved, because there could be a significant consumer backlash that might be damaging as news of this spreads.
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| Posted by: hhcfreebie at December 5, 2003, 11:22 am | | Topic: FortyPlusCasino Warning Forum: Winner Online |
It seems odds-on try to mimic RTG's infamous "it's not my business, you are on your own" stance.
If they just sell their software and provide their service to the casino, then it's all fine and dandy. However, most software companies take a share of the profit from casino. Therefore software provider are actually business partner of the casino.
When the casino screw up players, the software provider will take his share of dirty money. When the casino goes out of business, they are on their own. How convenient is that?
Now all oddson casinos should be "guilty unless proven otherwise", so are RTG and playtech casinos.
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| Posted by: jbr at December 5, 2003, 11:01 am | | Topic: FortyPlusCasino Warning Forum: Winner Online |
Not good enough. I shall definetely avoid playing odds on casinos in future. You obviously don't care who you supply your software to. Pathetic.
Quote: Originally Posted by SirSlotsAlot
Peter,
FORTYPLUSCASINO has gone out of business. Unfortunately, we have no
other information to give you about them.
Odds On alues its reputation and endeavours to license it's software to
legitimate operators.
Odds On is not related in any way, shape or form with FORTYPLUSCASINO
except as a supplier of software. We do not provide them any services
nor do we have any access to player information. Therefore we are
unable to provide you with any usefull information as to how to retrieve
monies on deposit with FORTYPLUSCASINO.
FORTYPLUSCASINO was licensed out of Costa Rica. For those interested,
we suggest that you try to contact FORTYPLUSCASINO for more information.
Yours truly,
P Gagnon
Odds On Inc.
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| Posted by: Gamblegirl at December 5, 2003, 10:37 am | | Topic: FortyPlusCasino Warning Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by Jetset
Hope you get a response - myself and others have been trying for the last week or more to get some sort of explanation for Forty Plus failing without telling their players what is going on, but all attempts at communication are being ignored by the casino, the erstwhile manager Alan Roberts and - particularly reprehensible - Odds On as the turnkey provider.
Some movement finally, confirming that they did go under but not much else:
http://casinomeister.com/discus/mes...html?1070640866
Of interest is that FortyPlus was licensed in Costa Rica, while the English Harbour group (EH Ventures) has long been licensed in Antigua. This may not mean a whole lot but generally a Caribbean license is seen as being better than a Central American one (Belize, Costa Rica, Panama,etc). For more information on the subject go here:
http://www.gamblinglicenses.com
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| Posted by: Jetset at December 4, 2003, 2:17 pm | | Topic: FortyPlusCasino Warning Forum: Winner Online |
Hope you get a response - myself and others have been trying for the last week or more to get some sort of explanation for Forty Plus failing without telling their players what is going on, but all attempts at communication are being ignored by the casino, the erstwhile manager Alan Roberts and - particularly reprehensible - Odds On as the turnkey provider.
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| Posted by: theguru at November 28, 2003, 2:16 pm | | Topic: FortyPlusCasino Warning Forum: Winner Online |
I've had a player approach me about 40+, same scenario, deposit, no bonus, no response to emails. I'm currently having a hard time getting through to anyone at 40+ so I'd advise that all players stay far away, this one could be messy!!!
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| Posted by: vd752 at November 27, 2003, 3:03 pm | | Topic: FortyPlusCasino Warning Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by Jydeman
...and of course you still have the casino on your site.
yes, I list all OddsOnc casinos, but I have linked FortyPlusCasino with this Warning
http://pub218.ezboard.com/fchipsfor...picID=137.topic
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| Posted by: vd752 at November 27, 2003, 2:17 pm | | Topic: FortyPlusCasino Warning Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by Gamblegirl
Any particular reason you didn't supply a direct link to www.casinomeister.com?
No. (spend a few min. to find and post it)
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| Posted by: vd752 at November 27, 2003, 1:17 pm | | Topic: FortyPlusCasino Warning Forum: Winner Online |
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Casinomeister's Forum: Casinomeister Warnings
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Posted by admin on Wednesday, November 26, 2003 - 10:36 am:
Fortypluscasino.com has not responded to a number of complaints. How
can they when their emails are bouncing. I am awaiting word from
Oddson to find out what's up with that.
In the meantime, avoid at all costs
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http://casinomeister.com/discus/mes...html?1069839410
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Today I received an e-mail from one of my players:
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Hi there. I ue your site frequently to play many bonuses. I recently
downloaded Forty Plus because it always pops up everywhere and was finally
going to play it. I signed up and deposited and waited forever for my bonus
and it did not come. There was no welcome email, there was nothing. I
wrote them several times asking for my bonus and the was no reply. I just
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