| Posted by: slycin56 at December 28, 2003, 9:14 am | | Topic: RTG Casino's that pay out Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by Gamblegirl
Also, there is the guilt-by-association factor. When a new casino opens -especially a RTG casino- it's necessary to find out who they're alligned with to gauge their relative trustworthiness. This is due to RTG as a whole having an overabundance of crooked bastards running their establishments.
Sazy's mentions Inetbet, Sci-Fi, and Breakaway. Inetbet are not affiliated with anyone else and seem to have a good record. Breakaway opened earlier this year and are affiliated with Sci-Fi. Sci-Fi has had a checkered past (non-payment of winnings, changing bonus terms,etc) but seems to be behaving themselves lately. I couldn't find any information on Rainfall's assertion about Warren Cloud's involvement with Vegas Magic --which would be the kiss-of-death. But they are directly involved with Slot Fever and related in some way to BetMax, Blast21, Club Player, Palace of Chance, and Betnetclub. Betmax and Blast21, because of their involvement with the Extre... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Gamblegirl at December 28, 2003, 6:51 am | | Topic: RTG Casino's that pay out Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by Jetset
Backing up a little to Sazy's post, I think the software in use is in fact a useful indicator when making your selection.
This is not just from the obvious perspective of the rigged-not rigged argument, the stability of the operator or even the number of features in the gambling software or Support facilities but in case you get into trouble and need to open a dialogue with the software provider (which should be policing its licensees).
Some providers are more responsive (and I'm not just talking about answering an email) than others.
Also, there is the guilt-by-association factor. When a new casino opens -especially a RTG casino- it's necessary to find out who they're alligned with to gauge their relative trustworthiness. This is due to RTG as a whole having an overabundance of crooked bastards running their establishments.
Sazy's mentions Inetbet, Sci-Fi, and Breakaway. Inetbet are not affiliated with anyone else and s... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: dominique at December 28, 2003, 6:43 am | | Topic: RTG Casino's that pay out Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by slycin56
If you're any kind of producer for that casino, the casino certainly does listen.
True, but the majority of portal owners don't make enough money to be listened to. Not even communally.
Quote: Originally Posted by jetset
Backing up a little to Sazy's post, I think the software in use is in fact a useful indicator when making your selection.
This is not just from the obvious perspective of the rigged-not rigged argument, the stability of the operator or even the number of features in the gambling software or Support facilities but in case you get into trouble and need to open a dialogue with the software provider (which should be policing its licensees)
Some providers are more responsive (and I'm not just talking about answering an email) than others
True. When you play software that is not backed by the provider, you are playing at your own risk. The software may be fair and nothi... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Jetset at December 27, 2003, 10:13 pm | | Topic: RTG Casino's that pay out Forum: Winner Online |
Backing up a little to Sazy's post, I think the software in use is in fact a useful indicator when making your selection.
This is not just from the obvious perspective of the rigged-not rigged argument, the stability of the operator or even the number of features in the gambling software or Support facilities but in case you get into trouble and need to open a dialogue with the software provider (which should be policing its licensees)
Some providers are more responsive (and I'm not just talking about answering an email) than others.
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| Posted by: slycin56 at December 27, 2003, 6:39 pm | | Topic: RTG Casino's that pay out Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by dominique
Most portal owners who do mediate only do it for people who use their sites. That is a lot more in tune with your asessment of the Meister. And you are still wrong, because no portal owner has to do it. It is not profitable.
Many never even think of it. Many you don't even have a way to reach. Many could care less. I am quite sure the majority of sites advertising casinos not only would not do it, they have no way to do it. The casinos don't listen to them anymore than they do to you.
I'm sorry, I have to disagree with a lot of that. MOST portal owners I know will mediate for their players, and many will even do it for someone's else's player; and even other affiliates. If you're any kind of producer for that casino, the casino certainly does listen.
That post would have been more appropriate in the thread about portal owners in "The Right Answer".
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| Posted by: dominique at December 27, 2003, 5:14 pm | | Topic: RTG Casino's that pay out Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by RainFall
So it's a necessity for him to help players so that he stays in business. The logic implied here is that he is not a player advocate by choice but by need.
Well, I disagree. His site is a well working one, he provides a great list of casinos to play and to avoid. That is all it takes for him, he already has a web presence. Another reason I don't agree is because I have seen him trying to educate affiliates and operators alike at conferences. He believes in what he does, I have no doubt.
He will go to bat for anyone, whether they use his site or not. I will rarely do that - it is too much of a real pain to mediate, operators are often anything but cooperative, and if you are not successfull, sometimes you get players slamming you too.
It is an ungrateful job, and I usually only do it for players who play from my links. Most portal owners who do mediate only do it for people who use their sites. That is a lot more ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: joeyl at December 27, 2003, 5:03 pm | | Topic: RTG Casino's that pay out Forum: Winner Online |
Ya i guess you lot are right - RTG is the dogs bolox and gives away money.
Rainfall - good list. Unusually over provocative posting style imo but a good list. I think the provocative style is okay and have used it at times, just not all the time eh or you dilute your own arguement i feel. Civility is not a weakness.
Happy xmas.
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| Posted by: slycin56 at December 27, 2003, 1:34 pm | | Topic: RTG Casino's that pay out Forum: Winner Online |
Thank you, Sazy - you're right on the money with that point of iew!
Quote: Originally Posted by RainFall
Yes he his. Directly or indirectly.
Vegas Magic ripped off several users. I've heard that several users came to you for help with egas magic and you ignored them. Good job cynthia. You are no worse than those thieves.
Rainfall - you're totally full of crap & just trying to stir up chit. I don't know who you are, but unless you can identify yourself and back up what you're saying, I won't be paying any more attention to you. Hopefully no one else will, either.
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| Posted by: Sazy at December 27, 2003, 9:38 am | | Topic: RTG Casino's that pay out Forum: Winner Online |
I disagree with people saying to watch out for RTG Casinos. I would say watch out for Any casino that has alot of negative feedback. I play at Sci-Fi, Breakaway, and INetBet Casinos. I have won at all 3 casinos. I had won at Breakaway on their $40 free bonus chip that was sent to me. After meeting the cash out requirements, I than cashed out at $1,800. Win or loose these casinos have good customer service. I beleive and read the posts on feedback. I have played Non RTG casinos and had fun but the only one so far I played and won that was non RTG was Arthurian. I won $400 and it was sent to me in 24 as well. I dont play RTG only because the rest are crooks but simply because I like the games and graphics better. So, the casinos one should play at is any casino that has good feedback on customer service and quick payouts. It shouldnt matter what type, only the honesty.
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| Posted by: RainFall at December 27, 2003, 4:20 am | | Topic: RTG Casino's that pay out Forum: Winner Online |
Yes he his. Directly or indirectly.
Vegas Magic ripped off several users. I've heard that several users came to you for help with egas magic and you ignored them. Good job cynthia. You are no worse than those thieves.
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| Posted by: RainFall at December 24, 2003, 1:58 am | | Topic: RTG Casino's that pay out Forum: Winner Online |
While it is true that his site has expanded into a site that generates interest now it was always based out of advocacy. Winneronline has in the past been sufficiently interesting and gets much less posts because only the posters like yourself and others actually seek out and help people without getting a dime. Which i give my most humble thanks too. You've helped many people and are real heroes of this world.
Yes i said hero. A man who does something because he wants to not because he has to or is inadvertantly paid too.
Back to the advocacy matter...
The facts are clear however. If a guy inadvertantly plays the wrong game and it happens to be a banned game the bonus is all that should ever be taken from a player. The fact that any "advocate" could see otherwise shows where his true loyalties lie. An advocate by nature should be playing leaning but have a decent sense of the casinos perspective. Instead generally it is the other way around.
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| Posted by: Jetset at December 24, 2003, 1:26 am | | Topic: RTG Casino's that pay out Forum: Winner Online |
You know, just about everything Rainfall posts IS negative and that's a helluva way to go through life....but he's right on the money when it comes to his observations on the list above imo. And he has been right on others, too.
However, Rainfall I believe you are wrong about Bryan Bailey. His site is sufficiently interesting and innovative to get by without the advocacy attraction, which I think he has largely taken on because there are just so few genuine mediators out there.
And what the hell anyway...his priority is always to get the legitimate players paid.
And generally speaking he does just that. For nothing.
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| Posted by: RainFall at December 23, 2003, 10:09 pm | | Topic: RTG Casino's that pay out Forum: Winner Online |
Bryan Bailey is a much greater devil than I. He is masquerading as a player advocate(don't get me wrong he does sometimes advocate) only to turn a buck off the players somehow. Without his "player advocate" side he doesn't have a business. So it's a necessity for him to help players so that he stays in business. The logic implied here is that he is not a player advocate by choice but by need.
I on the other hand don't masquerade as a player advociate, i don't try to help players with complaints but my heart is ALWAYS on the side of the player and don't care about any financial reprocussions.
You may not like what i have to say but it's the truth. If you don't like the truth then go watch sesame street this is not for you.
If you want players playing at stiff joints then you are the criminal. Because i post that this guy is a joke and posting WELL KNOWN STIFF CASINOS to play at i am a negative person?
I am a positive person and i want people to play a... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: casinodude at September 26, 2003, 11:01 am | | Topic: RTG Casino's that pay out Forum: Winner Online |
Cool. We are either both equally clever or both equally foolish.I'm going with the clever.
My advice to everyone who likes the RTG software is to take advantage of the new player bonuses and stick to Double Double Bonus Poker. I have had 6 royal flushes to date playing this and none playing every other ideo poker game. Make sure you always bet 5 coins.
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| Posted by: casinodude at September 26, 2003, 7:33 am | | Topic: RTG Casino's that pay out Forum: Winner Online |
Doh, forgot i gave a few of the playtech casinos off bonusrating.com a go because they had $200 sticky bonuses. But apart from getting lucky on the slots and power poker i prefer to stick with ideo poker at the rtg's.
But Fortune Towers and Riviera Gold are RTG, i play double double bonus poker on these sites. Anyway i like this forum and i just wanted to say stay away from powerbet.
Can i start again and change the subject to 'Casino's that pay out'.
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| Posted by: gamblinboi at September 26, 2003, 5:34 am | | Topic: RTG Casino's that pay out Forum: Winner Online |
yea. and 3 posts outa nowhere.. if he's a spammer he's smarter than others.
casinodude, congrats on your good luck but be careful with ALL RTG casinos. If they decide not to pay you, you'd be S O L (as you can see with PowerBet).
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| Posted by: YuraK at September 26, 2003, 5:28 am | | Topic: RTG Casino's that pay out Forum: Winner Online |
Strange post. More than half of the casinos ain't RTG (Aspinals, Grand online, Flamingo - PlayTech, All Slots, Fortune Towers, Riviera Gold - Micro)
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| Posted by: casinodude at September 26, 2003, 2:27 am | | Topic: RTG Casino's that pay out Forum: Winner Online |
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Grand online
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Fortune Towers
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