| Posted by: DALLAS3363 at December 26, 2003, 3:22 pm | | Topic: "Seperate bonus accounts" at Microgaming Casinos... Forum: Winner Online |
I agree totally that this separate bonus system is nonsense,and I won't play at any site that uses this ague and ery confusing system.Why would any group institute this type of bonus is beyond me,except to deceive players and especially newcomers to net gambling.
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| Posted by: theguru at December 26, 2003, 3:07 pm | | Topic: "Seperate bonus accounts" at Microgaming Casinos... Forum: Winner Online |
Any casino that uses this set up for their bonuses is merely trying to trick the player into thinking that they are getting free money when in fact your are being scammed. I have tried to talk to Music Hall about how they decide how much money may be transferred from your bonus account and how fast and they were so agued that it was painfully obvious that they are running a scam. The deal is, from what I gathered through my dialogue, that the casino manager will make the money transfer at his/her discretion. So basically if you show a type of bonus hunting behavoir I'm sure they transfer the money much slower then someone who plays slots.
Bottomline these casinos should be ashamed of themselves for the way that they are trying to decieve players with their ague terms and conditions. Avoid any casino that uses this system!!!!!
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| Posted by: caruso at December 26, 2003, 9:22 am | | Topic: "Seperate bonus accounts" at Microgaming Casinos... Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by whopper1
To lose 80k it would take about 16 million of wagering. At the cashback ratio that would be 320,000 profit :P
Nooooooo no no no, the transfer amount is capped. I don't know by how much, but probably 100% of deposit + bonus MAXIMUM. So if it was on say an initial $100 deposit and $100 bonus, the max. transfer is $200.
In other words, hit an 80K royal and your max transfer is $200 in this scenario.
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| Posted by: bart at December 25, 2003, 10:08 pm | | Topic: "Seperate bonus accounts" at Microgaming Casinos... Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by hhcfreebie
Those "bonus amount" are fake money.
They will transfer "some" of the bonus money into real money if they are in the mood. After that, you still have to wager tones of WR in order to cash out.
If I like to play with fake money, I'd play for fun. There is no point whatsoever to spent so much money there when I can play for free.
It's totally worthless.
Spearmaster was looking into this for one player. He got the players money released but the casino never did anything to make clear the bonus terms after that. As everyone noted this is a total scam. There is also a thread at bet2gamble as well as got2bet. I am disappointed that otherwise reputable portals have continued to advertise this group along with the more reputable casinos. They don't really need them.
You might recall that prior to this this same group used to change their bonus terms retroactively and refuse players their cashouts. I b... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: whopper1 at December 25, 2003, 5:33 pm | | Topic: "Seperate bonus accounts" at Microgaming Casinos... Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by Dirk_Dangerous
The seperate "bonus account" feature is a sham. It's stupid, it makes ery little sense, and it's much too hard to figure out. I won't play the casinos that have them, and I tell all my friends to avoid them. This group used to be one of the best Microgaming groups out there. Now they are one of the worst.
Listen up Music Hall, Golden Reef, etc. Change you bonus system! It stinks.
If you did hit an 80k royal in the bonus account it would be worth more because you get a percentage of your wagering back. I hit a 20k royal there a while back and made it up to 48k while continously cashing out the real money. Then they stopped me and only gave me 5k total.
Either way, in those days (august i think) it was 2% of your wagering becomes convertable to real cash. To lose 80k it would take about 16 million of wagering. At the cashback ratio that would be 320,000 profit :P
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| Posted by: Dirk_Dangerous at December 24, 2003, 3:19 pm | | Topic: "Seperate bonus accounts" at Microgaming Casinos... Forum: Winner Online |
The seperate "bonus account" feature is a sham. It's stupid, it makes ery little sense, and it's much too hard to figure out. I won't play the casinos that have them, and I tell all my friends to avoid them. This group used to be one of the best Microgaming groups out there. Now they are one of the worst.
Listen up Music Hall, Golden Reef, etc. Change you bonus system! It stinks.
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| Posted by: hhcfreebie at December 24, 2003, 10:17 am | | Topic: "Seperate bonus accounts" at Microgaming Casinos... Forum: Winner Online |
Those "bonus amount" are fake money.
They will transfer "some" of the bonus money into real money if they are in the mood. After that, you still have to wager tones of WR in order to cash out.
If I like to play with fake money, I'd play for fun. There is no point whatsoever to spent so much money there when I can play for free.
It's totally worthless.
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| Posted by: Bone-Us at December 24, 2003, 10:13 am | | Topic: "Seperate bonus accounts" at Microgaming Casinos... Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by two_card
T&C too complicated.
When I asked for clarification from Music Hall - they replied read the webpage T&C.
I got the same treatment from another one on the list. These casinos should be avoided until they stop this nonsense. As far as I can tell, you build up transferable credits in your separate bonus account by simply playing the games with your bonus credits. The problem is that they say it's based on time playing and not amount played and they refuse to say how the transferable amount is calculated. As far as I can tell, Blackjack play will get you about $4 for every hour played. Video Poker appears to give a little more.
That means that if you have $100 in your bonus account it would take 25+ hours to get the full $100 in transferable credits. However, you stop building up credits as soon as you run out of money. Since, on average, you will lose at greater than $4 per hour, your bonus will be considerably less tha... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Schankwart at December 24, 2003, 4:07 am | | Topic: "Seperate bonus accounts" at Microgaming Casinos... Forum: Winner Online |
A few Microgaming Casinos introduced their new bonus system with seperate bonus accounts a while back.
I do not know the players' benefit of this and my experience with it has been just awful.
Ever since this programm started I avoided the following Casinos which are all running those rip-off promotions now...:
Challenge Casino
Music Hall
UK Casino Club
Aztec Riches
Golden Reef
I actually really enjoyed playing at these Casinos but this makes no sense anymore. Hands down.
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