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Posted by: hhcfreebie at March 1, 2004, 1:03 pm
Topic: suspicions of cheating at music hall Forum: Winner Online

Hmm.. you asked them to lock your account because you thought you might be going back? Why would they do that knowing you will eventually loose the money back to them? In fact they could delay the cashin process on purpose so that you would loose them back. CON for example, make their 7 days payout rule because "lots of players would like to reverse their cashin and play more, it's for the benefit of the players". Yeah, right.
This industry feeds on the weak. If you can't control yourself, you should stay far far away from casinos. I'd say casual players should never deposit more than 10% of their monthly income each month.
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Posted by: sispike at March 1, 2004, 11:52 am
Topic: suspicions of cheating at music hall Forum: Winner Online

I finally managed to cash out a decent sum here - but the behaviour of this casino is absolutly disgusting. I have played in excess of 200,000 hands, recieving about half the 4 deuces expected. However, this is not what concerns me.
I cashed out $700 - and I knew I would be tempted to reverse the cashin. So I emailed them, begged them to make the cashin irreversable - I told them I had a problem and simply wanted to recieve my cashins - they did nothing. I chatted to them on their live chat, begged for them to lock my account, but they said they wouldn't be able to process the cashin of a locked account. So in short, I identified myself as having a problem and they weren't interested. I have been back, lost the $700, but can't believe they wouldn't help me out even once I had identified that weakness to them.
I never seem to have any problems of over depositing, just problems with reversable cashins. However, after this behaviour I wont be playing online anymore...any would advise anyone else ...
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Posted by: bstitt at February 16, 2004, 7:12 am
Topic: suspicions of cheating at music hall Forum: Winner Online


Quote: Originally Posted by nzknight

just when I thought my bankroll was gone I hit a pat 4 dueces. 2 hands later a pat wild royal, then another 10 hands later. cashed out happy.



Pat 4deuces!! That is awesome! If you have a screen shot of it, please post it here. Just attach it to your post. Might want to keep file size under 100kb. Pat 4deuces pays better than royal flush. To me, it is more impressive than a single royal flush (which is why I'd like to see one). Deuces wild is quite a rush!
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Posted by: nzknight at February 16, 2004, 4:32 am
Topic: suspicions of cheating at music hall Forum: Winner Online

I play dueces wild power poker a lot at MG's. ariance is high, but its a rush.
3 weeks ago at 32RED I'd been playin for about 1 1/2 hours, usual roller coaster
ride. the odd wild royal or 5ok keepin me goin.
just when I thought my bankroll was gone I hit a pat 4 dueces. 2 hands later a pat wild royal, then another 10 hands later. cashed out happy.
thats why i love p, you just never know.
long runs without hitting 4 dueces are the norm, but let me tell ya, its sweet when you see 4 of them drawn on the bottom line.
still waitin for the day i can draw a pat rf on power poker. prob never happen, but hey, its possible!

nzknight
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Posted by: bstitt at February 13, 2004, 12:24 pm
Topic: suspicions of cheating at music hall Forum: Winner Online

I have been playing a lot of deuces wild for the past few months at fortunelounge (MG). Deuces Wild has VERY high ariance compared to JorB.

Whether or not you are doing well depends on how many 4deuces and deuces royal flushes you are getting. I had a really bad session about one month ago. Wiped out a little over half of my bankroll playing deuces wild because I didn't hit 4 deuces nor any pat deuces royal flushes.

See my post here:

http://mb.winneronline.com/showthread.html?t=15211

A few months ago, when I first started playing deuces wild, I lost about 3/4 of my bankroll in one week. Seriously, on my last $100, I am dealt 3 deuces. And I draw 2 4deuces for a payout of about $13k. What a ride!

Sometimes I think I should quit playing deuces wild, but it's such a rush when you get 3 deuces or get a pat deuces royal flush. My dream is to get 4deuces pat. I can't even fathom a pat natural royal flush
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Posted by: GrandMaster at February 13, 2004, 11:09 am
Topic: suspicions of cheating at music hall Forum: Winner Online


Quote: Originally Posted by sispike
I have foolishly been playing deuces wild power poker at microgaming casinos and have constantly been below the number of expected 4 deuces. Today I played 23,000 hands at music hall - and recieved just one line of 4 deuces. In total at this casino I have played over 40,000 hands, I have not had the royal but that could just be bad luck. My last session today was of 15,000 hands and I did not hit 4 deuces once - and I have had this at other casinos before. I have NEVER felt so cheated in my whole life. Although obviously a game of high ariance, my results are pretty similar across other microgaming casinos. To me, 15,000 hands without hitting 4 deuces on the back of a session of nearly 9,000 hands with just one seems ery ery wrong..
si


I assume when you write hand, you mean an individual hand, rather than a deal consisting of 4 hands. This is consistent with the remark about royals.

According to the Wizard, the probability of...
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Posted by: eek at February 13, 2004, 8:04 am
Topic: suspicions of cheating at music hall Forum: Winner Online

4 deuces occurs every 4909 hands according to winpoker.

You should get about 9 for every RF.(45,300 hands)
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Posted by: sispike at February 13, 2004, 6:59 am
Topic: suspicions of cheating at music hall Forum: Winner Online

I have foolishly been playing deuces wild power poker at microgaming casinos and have constantly been below the number of expected 4 deuces. Today I played 23,000 hands at music hall - and recieved just one line of 4 deuces. In total at this casino I have played over 40,000 hands, I have not had the royal but that could just be bad luck. My last session today was of 15,000 hands and I did not hit 4 deuces once - and I have had this at other casinos before. I have NEVER felt so cheated in my whole life. Although obviously a game of high ariance, my results are pretty similar across other microgaming casinos. To me, 15,000 hands without hitting 4 deuces on the back of a session of nearly 9,000 hands with just one seems ery ery wrong..
si
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