| Posted by: superius at June 11, 2006, 9:10 am | | Topic: Betting Champs 100% to $200 10x - ongame Forum: Bonus Whores | | PS - You know what I hate about our society? Everyone thinks that just because they have an opinion that it is somehow valid, worthwhile or even worse...correct. I remember many times in various classes (running from say grade 7 to early years university) where people complained about a mark on a test because they were asked to give an opinion, gave a stupid one and then received a poor mark. "But they asked for my opinion, I gave it I should get 100%" they protested. My point is that an uninformed or incorrect opinion is still uninformed and incorrect...and worthless as a result. Hiding behind the shield of "opinion" makes you look stupid. Just because you think something is correct doesn't make it so. The original poster was correct with what he said. Saying you are only expressing an opinion doesn't make the OP incorrect, it just makes you sound stupid, childish and immature for continuing to argue. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: MyTurn2Raise at June 10, 2006, 8:20 pm | | Topic: Betting Champs 100% to $200 10x - ongame Forum: Bonus Whores | hawkeen wrote: I don't think I would touch this one. The bettingchamps casino is on SRB's avoid list. This is also cashier backend of futurebet. Stay away.
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especially with all the more solid ongame sites offering bonus after bonus
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| Posted by: ajk123 at June 10, 2006, 11:45 am | | Topic: Betting Champs 100% to $200 10x - ongame Forum: Bonus Whores | you weren't really being attacked for "having an opinion". the reason you were being attacked was because you wrote something that was obviously wrong (saying that it was a 15x bonus, that 10x wasn't standard, and that the bonus was crap because of these facts) and were being extremely cocky about it. pretty much, here was this guy (you) who didn't know how Ongame bonuses worked, calling another guy (who was posting a legitimate bonus), stupid.
why would someone show you respect when you were the one not showing respect in the first place? even if it wasn't your intentions, that is how you came off in your first 2 posts and people responded accordingly. plus your next couple of posts after that didn't help matters at all. haha..
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| Posted by: Jayson745 at June 10, 2006, 10:43 am | | Topic: Betting Champs 100% to $200 10x - ongame Forum: Bonus Whores | OK I'm back. And have calmed down.
Colorado if you look at my 1st 2 posts in this thread you will notice a gap in time. I thought my 1st post sounded rude. So I went back and added no affence bud, I just call em as I see em. I was not being sarcastic or cocky (so my bad if thats how it came off). I was actually trying to be nice.
The reason I went off is mostly because of the next post saying my parents were brother and sister. All the riciduling responces got me furrious and I felt like I was being attacked for an opinion.
I usually show people respect but when none is givin to me all bets are off. The fact that I was drinking didn't help either but would have never been an issue if I wasn't jumped on (I'm usually a happy drunk). So in my sober opinion this whole thing was alot of our faults, I think I had the right to be pissed about the responces to my 1st 2 posts, but on the other hand my reaction was overboard.
So I apologize for my portion of the blam... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: TheJourneyman at June 7, 2006, 3:47 pm | | Topic: Betting Champs 100% to $200 10x - ongame Forum: Bonus Whores | Alphaunit1 wrote: Crack AA Ho wrote: Thinking about it, what I am taking he meant to say in a roundabout kind of way was that for every dollar in bonus money you would need 14.3 hands @ $1 raked pot with a 10x bonus on the ongame network.
He did a damn poor job of communicating it, then. Going off on veteran posters, telling them they are morons (basically) is not going to get anybody listening to you. He really alienated a ton of people immediately with his attitude. Really, if you read his posts, he was "in a roundabout way" telling ColoradoHoldem that he was posting a shitty bonus.
and you are right. for some it might be a 14x or worse bonus depending on what limit you play but for others its a lot better than that (talking raked hands) He did do a poor job communicating it but to say flat out its a 14 or 15x raked hand bonus is incorrect since, just like in a lot of aspects of poker, it depends. this just happens to depend on what stakes... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Crack AA Ho at June 7, 2006, 4:06 am | | Topic: Betting Champs 100% to $200 10x - ongame Forum: Bonus Whores | Alphaunit1 wrote: He did a damn poor job of communicating it, then. Going off on veteran posters, telling them they are morons (basically) is not going to get anybody listening to you. He really alienated a ton of people immediately with his attitude. Really, if you read his posts, he was "in a roundabout way" telling ColoradoHoldem that he was posting a shitty bonus.
Yeah, he certainly fell flat on just about every other angle of the argument, not shitty just a standard bonus on the network no two ways about it, still worth a pop if you've run dry.
Quote: Your assumptions are wrong on that one, unfortunately. Once the pot reaches €0.31 raked or higher, you get one VIP point. And that's it, no matter how big the pot gets. So this bonus peaks where the pots get above $10 regularly (limit) and $7 (no limit).
Thought that originally but looked at the hourly rate which swayed me, looking at it again you could be right. Only done a couple here, ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Alphaunit1 at June 6, 2006, 9:21 pm | | Topic: Betting Champs 100% to $200 10x - ongame Forum: Bonus Whores | Crack AA Ho wrote: Thinking about it, what I am taking he meant to say in a roundabout kind of way was that for every dollar in bonus money you would need 14.3 hands @ $1 raked pot with a 10x bonus on the ongame network.
He did a damn poor job of communicating it, then. Going off on veteran posters, telling them they are morons (basically) is not going to get anybody listening to you. He really alienated a ton of people immediately with his attitude. Really, if you read his posts, he was "in a roundabout way" telling ColoradoHoldem that he was posting a shitty bonus.
Quote: So for the ongame network, for every $1 in bonus you would need
Indeed, this is the heart of it. If you play low limits, only the lowest x factor bonuses (5x) are going to be even moderately worthwhile doing. If you play higher limits ($3/$6+, though $5/$10+ is where the real sweet spot is), then nearly all these bonuses are quite worthwhile pursuing. 4-tabling, I can easil... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Crack AA Ho at June 6, 2006, 6:46 pm | | Topic: Betting Champs 100% to $200 10x - ongame Forum: Bonus Whores | Maybe I don't want you playing at my table after all.
I'm about to stand up in Jaysons defence here...
Thinking about it, what I am taking he meant to say in a roundabout kind of way was that for every dollar in bonus money you would need 14.3 hands @ $1 raked pot with a 10x bonus on the ongame network.
So for the ongame network, for every $1 in bonus you would need
(10x) 28.6 hands @ $0.5 raked / 14.3 hands @ $1 raked / 7.1 hands @ $2 raked / 4.7 hands @ $3 raked
(9x) 25.7 hands @ $0.5 raked / 12.9 hands @ $1 raked / 6.4 hands @ $2 raked / 4.3 hands @ $3 raked
(8x) 22.9 hands @ $0.5 raked / 11.4 hands @ $1 raked / 5.7 hands @ $2 raked / 3.8 hands @ $3 raked
(7x) 20.0 hands @ $0.5 raked / 10.0 hands @ $1 raked / 5.0 hands @ $2 raked / 3.3 hands @ $3 raked
(5x) 14.3 hands @ $0.5 raked / 07.1 hands @ $1 raked / 3.6 hands @ $2 raked / 2.4 hands @ $3 raked
Fulltilt 33.3 hands @ $0.5 raked / 16.67 hands @ $1 raked / 8.3 hands @... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Cry Me A River at June 6, 2006, 9:37 am | | Topic: Betting Champs 100% to $200 10x - ongame Forum: Bonus Whores | Betting Champs seems to be a new room (at least it's not on any previous Ongame lists). Does anyone know if it's a Futurebet site? Given all the problems with Bayou and Carnival lately:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=5908014&an=0&page=0&gonew=1#UNREAD
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| Posted by: MrHanso at June 6, 2006, 6:39 am | | Topic: Betting Champs 100% to $200 10x - ongame Forum: Bonus Whores | Definitely funniest post in a while. I was in a bad mood until reading this ... now I can't get the smile off of my face.
Jayson745, did you graduate middle-school? I'm thinking online poker isn't a good hobby for someone of your intellect ... bonuses or no-bonuses. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: RobDoral at June 6, 2006, 5:30 am | | Topic: Betting Champs 100% to $200 10x - ongame Forum: Bonus Whores | coloradoholdem wrote: Rob - does the low NL stop raking at $.50? I know the 1/2 LHE goes to $1
I had to take another look at the tables before I got this one right (and take "right" with some skepticism).
The max rake at the NL games described as .25/.25 is .50 according the the table info in the lobby, so at best, .35 pts per hand. .5/.5 is capped at $1 (I think I was getting this one wrong earlier), .7 pts per hand max. 1-1 is $2 and 2-2 and up is $3. The PL games seemed the same. The one exception I saw is the heads up games are 1/2 the rake of whatever level they're on, so .5/.5 heads up is capped at .50.
I'm not certain at which point the max rake kicks in. On 2/4 LHE tables I seem to remember the max rake kicks in when the pots hits $24, but I don't know about NL.
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| Posted by: ajk123 at June 6, 2006, 4:27 am | | Topic: Betting Champs 100% to $200 10x - ongame Forum: Bonus Whores | ajk123 wrote: Jayson745 wrote: .o7 per .10rake is not standard, it is .7 point per dollar and with 10x is crap. 15x is what it amounts to.
uh oh. i hear the floodgates opening...
just a suggestion.. before calling someone out with 4000 more posts than you, do some research.
haha, i guess i was right.
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| Posted by: TheJourneyman at June 5, 2006, 9:29 pm | | Topic: Betting Champs 100% to $200 10x - ongame Forum: Bonus Whores | Hawkeye_V wrote: Jayson745 wrote:
This is the most rediculous thread I've ever seen. I'm gonna print it and show it to everyone so we can laugh at you.
Oh, there will be laughing alright, but they won't be laughing with you....
that one made me chuckle. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: TheJourneyman at June 5, 2006, 9:28 pm | | Topic: Betting Champs 100% to $200 10x - ongame Forum: Bonus Whores | Alphaunit1 wrote: Wow, never seen a thread degenerate that quickly. Somebody needs to learn how OnGame network bonuses work before they go all ballistic on veteran posters. Heh.
Thanks for the heads-up, Colorado. I'm at near saturation with these bonuses lately, so I'll probably let this one stay on the back-burner for a bit, 10x is just "another bonus" anymore on this network. (Esp. with HoldemPoker giving out reloads like candy lately.)
yeah there are a lot of these bonuses out there but its always nice to have a backup if and its a big if you ever catch up on ALL the bonuses on this network. but hey that's just my opinion.
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| Posted by: Alphaunit1 at June 5, 2006, 9:13 pm | | Topic: Betting Champs 100% to $200 10x - ongame Forum: Bonus Whores | Wow, never seen a thread degenerate that quickly. Somebody needs to learn how OnGame network bonuses work before they go all ballistic on veteran posters. Heh.
Thanks for the heads-up, Colorado. I'm at near saturation with these bonuses lately, so I'll probably let this one stay on the back-burner for a bit, 10x is just "another bonus" anymore on this network. (Esp. with HoldemPoker giving out reloads like candy lately.) | | Static Link |
| Posted by: EZ at June 5, 2006, 8:56 pm | | Topic: Betting Champs 100% to $200 10x - ongame Forum: Bonus Whores | hey jas, why post your oppinion though is this section?? prob cause this one doesn't fit into your table limits.
i'm a lower limit whore than you jas, so i'm reading this thread knowing this bonus isn't great for me either.
so with that in mind please dont take it the wrong way when i call it like i see it and say "you are looking like an idiot"
when you print it, black out the names and my guess is 9/10 of your Boys will say the man who made the 2nd post was a moron.
what's your take on absolute jas??
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| Posted by: Hawkeye_V at June 5, 2006, 8:45 pm | | Topic: Betting Champs 100% to $200 10x - ongame Forum: Bonus Whores | Jayson745 wrote:
This is the most rediculous thread I've ever seen. I'm gonna print it and show it to everyone so we can laugh at you.
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| Posted by: Jayson745 at June 5, 2006, 8:34 pm | | Topic: Betting Champs 100% to $200 10x - ongame Forum: Bonus Whores | Nice knowing you around here, go back to fourth grade instead of trying to bonuswhore, it will get you further in life........ ?????????????????????????????
Someone gave you that kinda pull? You can just end me? You spend your whole life on a forum talking to people you dont know. Do you get a little BW badge for that? You dont run shit and the more you talk the funnier this thread gets | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Jayson745 at June 5, 2006, 8:31 pm | | Topic: Betting Champs 100% to $200 10x - ongame Forum: Bonus Whores | I'm not just talking to you. Everything I said was to someone, hard to defend against a bunch of retards at the same time(kinda like poker sometimes). So stop quoting me until you learn how to read the whole thread.
This is the most rediculous thread I've ever seen. I'm gonna print it and show it to everyone so we can laugh at you. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: PokerBonusWhore at June 5, 2006, 8:27 pm | | Topic: Betting Champs 100% to $200 10x - ongame Forum: Bonus Whores | Jayson745 wrote: dont play all nice guy. you jump on me just like the the rest. I made a responce to a thread without ever looking at your post number, and now I know I would have done the same. Look at every post I've ever made here, Ive never been rude until tonight so your full of shit. I'm furrious that I would be bashed over an oppinion on a bonus that regardless of what you all say isn't that great.
And I usually play $1/2 or $2/4 so that isn't the issue. I've never played that site or anyother on that network and just made an OPINION. Wanna bash me? fine. Wanna play me? fine. Wanna treat me like some streat slut because I expressed an oppinion that was against a member with alotta posts? Kiss my ass!
Never had a problem at BW before but if I'm getting in trouble for stating my oppinion then defending myself when a bunch of assholes jump me then I dont wanna be here.
And I play $1/2 or $2/4 limit so I dont think my limits are the problem. Mabey... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: TheJourneyman at June 5, 2006, 8:09 pm | | Topic: Betting Champs 100% to $200 10x - ongame Forum: Bonus Whores | Jayson745 wrote: dont play all nice guy. you jump on me just like the the rest. umm you need to learn math and sarcasm
Quote: I made a responce to a thread without ever looking at your post number, and now I know I would have done the same.
still trying to figure out where I said anything about a post count mattering
Quote: Look at every post I've ever made here, Ive never been rude until tonight so your full of shit. I'm furrious that I would be bashed over an oppinion on a bonus that regardless of what you all say isn't that great.
A - i must have missed where someone called you rude
B - nonoe said it was a great bonus
now you are just putting words in people's mouths to try and make yourself look better and its not working.
Quote: And I usually play $1/2 or $2/4 so that isn't the issue. I've never played that site or anyother on that network and just made an OPINION. Wanna bash me? fine. Wanna pla... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Jayson745 at June 5, 2006, 7:57 pm | | Topic: Betting Champs 100% to $200 10x - ongame Forum: Bonus Whores | dont play all nice guy. you jump on me just like the the rest. I made a responce to a thread without ever looking at your post number, and now I know I would have done the same. Look at every post I've ever made here, Ive never been rude until tonight so your full of shit. I'm furrious that I would be bashed over an oppinion on a bonus that regardless of what you all say isn't that great.
And I usually play $1/2 or $2/4 so that isn't the issue. I've never played that site or anyother on that network and just made an OPINION. Wanna bash me? fine. Wanna play me? fine. Wanna treat me like some streat slut because I expressed an oppinion that was against a member with alotta posts? Kiss my ass!
Never had a problem at BW before but if I'm getting in trouble for stating my oppinion then defending myself when a bunch of assholes jump me then I dont wanna be here.
And I play $1/2 or $2/4 limit so I dont think my limits are the problem. Mabey the little pots add up f... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: TheJourneyman at June 5, 2006, 7:48 pm | | Topic: Betting Champs 100% to $200 10x - ongame Forum: Bonus Whores | Jayson745 wrote: 1ST OF ALL I DONT GIVE A FUCK HOW MANY POST YOU HAVE. WATCH YOUR FILTHY FUCKY MOUTHS WHEN YOU TALK TO ME.
2nd of all I made a responce to a post I still see no problem with. Move the decimal where ever you want to. read the post before you jump to the verterans defence. .07 per .10 rake is .7 per dollar which is 14X(excuse me) and shit as far as I'm conserned. Baby pots will drive it down a little so if you want 12X go for it.
3rd I'm Jayson745 everywhere and I dont care if you bitches wanna play, my only regret is my bankroll not being big enough to really hurt you
and finally if you wanna jump on my ass for posting my thoughts I will keep them to myself sense I'm to stupid to do math on .07 10x
dude you need to chill or should I say bud
1st - you called me out trying to make me look like a dumbass when I wasn't wrong
2nd - as someone pointed out you get points even if it is raked less than $1 and... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: RobDoral at June 5, 2006, 7:35 pm | | Topic: Betting Champs 100% to $200 10x - ongame Forum: Bonus Whores | Jayson, not everyone here plays the microlimits. It's well known that the bonuses on the ongame network aren't as good a deal for players who play under 2/4 LHE or NL limits where the rake is capped at .50. The bonuses ARE pretty good when you play at 2/4 and are VERY good 3/6 and up.
I'd agree that one's number of posts don't matter that much but you've shown a remarkable lack of respect for some of the otherwise helpful regulars here in the few contributions you've made.
I've hit the notify mod button [edit: oops, nevermind, someone beat me to it] on your reply above so that they can direct you to the thread explaining the appropriate ettiquette here. We all have bad days now and then (my personal shame is the monkey art thread, don't ask ) and I hope you'll make a substantive contribution to these forums in the future.
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| Posted by: Jayson745 at June 5, 2006, 7:27 pm | | Topic: Betting Champs 100% to $200 10x - ongame Forum: Bonus Whores | 1ST OF ALL I DONT GIVE A FUCK HOW MANY POST YOU HAVE. WATCH YOUR FILTHY FUCKY MOUTHS WHEN YOU TALK TO ME.
2nd of all I made a responce to a post I still see no problem with. Move the decimal where ever you want to. read the post before you jump to the verterans defence. .07 per .10 rake is .7 per dollar which is 14X(excuse me) and shit as far as I'm conserned. Baby pots will drive it down a little so if you want 12X go for it.
3rd I'm Jayson745 everywhere and I dont care if you bitches wanna play, my only regret is my bankroll not being big enough to really hurt you
and finally if you wanna jump on my ass for posting my thoughts I will keep them to myself sense I'm to stupid to do math on .07 10x | | Static Link |
| Posted by: TheJourneyman at June 5, 2006, 5:09 pm | | Topic: Betting Champs 100% to $200 10x - ongame Forum: Bonus Whores | Hawkeye_V wrote: Jayson745 wrote: .o7 per .10rake is not standard, it is .7 point per dollar and with 10x is crap. 15x is what it amounts to.
OK Jayson, let's go slow here. If you move the decimal point (that dot thingy in front of the 7 in .7) one position to the left in both .7 and 1 you get .07 and .1, right? So, .07 points for 10 cents (.10 dollars) is the same as .7 points for 1 dollar.
However, at the Ongame Network, the rake does not need to reach 1 dollar for points to be awarded, the rake only needs to reach 10 cents (.10 dollars, 1 dime) So .7 points per dollar is NOT standard, as that is not how they word it in their own rake schedule.
Sometimes it is better to keep your mouth shut and let people assume your ignorance, than it is to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
It is people like you who give people with post counts like mine a bad name.
No offense though bud, just calling it like I see it.
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| Posted by: Hawkeye_V at June 5, 2006, 5:07 pm | | Topic: Betting Champs 100% to $200 10x - ongame Forum: Bonus Whores | Jayson745 wrote: .o7 per .10rake is not standard, it is .7 point per dollar and with 10x is crap. 15x is what it amounts to.
OK Jayson, let's go slow here. If you move the decimal point (that dot thingy in front of the 7 in .7) one position to the left in both .7 and 1 you get .07 and .1, right? So, .07 points for 10 cents (.10 dollars) is the same as .7 points for 1 dollar.
However, at the Ongame Network, the rake does not need to reach 1 dollar for points to be awarded, the rake only needs to reach 10 cents (.10 dollars, 1 dime) So .7 points per dollar is NOT standard, as that is not how they word it in their own rake schedule.
Sometimes it is better to keep your mouth shut and let people assume your ignorance, than it is to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
It is people like you who give people with post counts like mine a bad name.
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| Posted by: ajk123 at June 5, 2006, 4:28 pm | | Topic: Betting Champs 100% to $200 10x - ongame Forum: Bonus Whores | Jayson745 wrote: .o7 per .10rake is not standard, it is .7 point per dollar and with 10x is crap. 15x is what it amounts to.
uh oh. i hear the floodgates opening...
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