| Posted by: caruso at February 23, 2006, 3:52 am | | Topic: Some newbie questions, but really important. Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by bigtool
From what I understand, they're saying that you can't play roulette with bonus money, not that you can't play roulette with your own. Having a bonus in your account doesn't mean you're playing with that money.
Nooooooooo, having bonus money in your account means you're playing with a bonus! NEVER assume to the contrary - you'll end up the poorer for it.
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| Posted by: bigtool at February 22, 2006, 5:41 pm | | Topic: Some newbie questions, but really important. Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by caruso
This is crystal-clear: if you wager on roulette, with a bonus in your account, you will lose your winnings and receive back your deposit only in the event of a win.
Clearly, if you want a bonus and want to play roulette, you will not be doing it at Bet365.
Hi caruso. Do you really think it's crystal clear? From what I understand, they're saying that you can't play roulette with bonus money, not that you can't play roulette with your own. Having a bonus in your account doesn't mean you're playing with that money.
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| Posted by: caruso at February 22, 2006, 3:17 pm | | Topic: Some newbie questions, but really important. Forum: Winner Online |
The anti-roulette online casino attitude when a bonus is in the melting pot is a throwback to the old days, when wagering requirements were much lower and you could guarantee a profit betting opposites. The ironic thing is that these days, wagering requirements are such that opposite play for pretty much all bonuses guarantees a LOSS for the player, and as such is profitable for the casinos. The casinos, however, have never managed to work this out.
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| Posted by: caruso at February 22, 2006, 3:13 pm | | Topic: Some newbie questions, but really important. Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by bigtool
Here's their T&C mentioning this:
g) Wagers made on any ariation of Roulette, Baccarat, Craps, Sic Bo and Pai Gow Poker games will not contribute to the wagering requirements.
h) Any use of bonus funds to wager on any ariation of Roulette, Baccarat, Craps, Sic Bo and Pai Gow Poker games is not permitted and will result in the loss of any bonus and winnings attributable to their bonus.
This is crystal-clear: if you wager on roulette, with a bonus in your account, you will lose your winnings and receive back your deposit only in the event of a win.
Clearly, if you want a bonus and want to play roulette, you will not be doing it at Bet365.
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| Posted by: bigtool at February 22, 2006, 1:12 pm | | Topic: Some newbie questions, but really important. Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by expert
GoldenRiviera manager(not customer support) about it,and she said ''if you
play red-black with your bonus,we will cancel your bonus''
Oh Sorry expert, I think I misunderstood you. You mean playing red AND black during the same spin? Like you only lose if balls drops on 0 ?
If it is like that, then I can understand why all other casinos don't let you play roulette for WR. This idea had never even crossed my mind.
Sorry for my ignorance, I'm new at this and just want to learn a bit
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| Posted by: expert at February 22, 2006, 1:07 pm | | Topic: Some newbie questions, but really important. Forum: Winner Online |
I am the owner of biggest Turkish forum,and one of the members asked to
GoldenRiviera manager(not customer support) about it,and she said ''if you
play red-black with your bonus,we will cancel your bonus''
So dont have risk.
Play roulette and count it %25 of wagering requirement.But dont bet red-black.
If they allow playing red-black with bonus,they may have 50 million bonus hunters and players.
(and yes,some customer staff dont know everything about their casinos.May be he/she is new there)
Expert
www.Fast-Payout-Casinos.com
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| Posted by: bigtool at February 22, 2006, 5:59 am | | Topic: Some newbie questions, but really important. Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by expert
Global player,goldenriviera and some casinos allow to play roulette with your bonus,but if you see you bet red-black,they cancel your bonus and withdrawals.
I just spoke to their chat assistant and told me the following. First of all let me show you something: In their T&C it says this:
Wagers on Baccarat, Craps, Roulette, Video Poker and SicBo will meet 20% of your wagering obligation with regards to your initial download bonus.
The chat assistant told me it's 25%.
"Thank you for your patience please note that it counts for 25% 0n Golden Riviera Casino."
So 2 things: They don't even know their own T&C, and in that case, can I actualy use the transcript of the chat to make them actually comply with what this person told me? even if it differs from the real T&C ?
On the other hand, I asked this person with complete naivenees, if I could only play... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: bigtool at February 22, 2006, 5:28 am | | Topic: Some newbie questions, but really important. Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by expert
but if you see you bet red-black,they cancel your bonus and withdrawals.
Just out of curiosity. Can they do that even if it's not specified in their T&C?
I'm just trying to see how online casinos work. If that's even possible.
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| Posted by: expert at February 22, 2006, 3:41 am | | Topic: Some newbie questions, but really important. Forum: Winner Online |
Big casinos,such as bet365 have right to close your account,but they dont do it so often.
Global player,goldenriviera and some casinos allow to play roulette with your bonus,but if you see you bet red-black,they cancel your bonus and withdrawals.
And I hope you can continue to win 100$ everyday.
Expert
www.Fast-Payout-Casinos.com
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| Posted by: sming at February 21, 2006, 7:02 pm | | Topic: Some newbie questions, but really important. Forum: Winner Online |
Bigtool,
Play casinowebcam.com family of casinos. Their roulette is live. When they offer the signup bonus or other bonuses, you can play roulette and the wagering counts. Just be clear how much you need to wager before withdrawal, usually 30 x (deposit x bonus).
Hope it helps.
-sming
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| Posted by: bigtool at February 21, 2006, 6:20 pm | | Topic: Some newbie questions, but really important. Forum: Winner Online |
Hi aodat2,
Thanks for replying. I guess your right. Casinos do have the right to do or not to do business with someone. But on the otherhand, that wouldn't make them a good rep, knowing what they boot people because of their winnings.
On the other issue. I guess you're right, I better play on the safe side and block all bonuses of whatever the sort so I can avoid an "misunderstandings". It is ery possible that they could tell me "well, you played with bonus money so your winnings will me removed", having played with my real money.
Damn these online casinos are some complicated stuff. I'll tell you the truth, if it weren't for the speed in which games flow on online casinos, I would go to my land casino that I have at 10 min by car from my place. But loving roulete as much as I do, and hate waiting about a minute for the dealer to spin the wheel, people pushing, etc., I guess I'll just have to do my homework on online casinos.
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| Posted by: aodat2 at February 21, 2006, 5:17 pm | | Topic: Some newbie questions, but really important. Forum: Winner Online |
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1) Let's imagine (just a hipothetical case) I win $100 a day for a year. Could they ban me or close my account just because they feel like it? Has this happened before?
This is a ery interesting question. I've seen this before somewhere but can't really remember much about it. But running a casino is also like running a business. You have the right to refuse doing business with someone as much as that someone has the right to do business with you.
Typically, they will NOT close your account for winning $100 each and everyday as it's practically IMPOSSIBLE for such a thing to happen. But again as I said, they have the right to close your account and give you back everything in your account and refuse any business from you.
Next if you like playing roulette, my advice would be that you should not even try to use any BONUS money for the play. Almost ALL casinos (except global-player) will NOT allow you to do it. They will tell you anything to get... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: bigtool at February 21, 2006, 11:49 am | | Topic: Some newbie questions, but really important. Forum: Winner Online |
Hi guys, you have a great forum going on here. I like how everybody helps eachother out when having trouble. So OK, I'm about to deposit some money at bet365, but I got some questions for ya'all:
1) Let's imagine (just a hipothetical case) I win $100 a day for a year. Could they ban me or close my account just because they feel like it? Has this happened before?
2) I only play roulette, I really don't like other games. So, I now that roulette doesn't count towards wager req if you asked for the bonus. I sent them a email and they responded that if I don't play with bonus money, all is ok, but if I choose to withdraw, the bonus part will be deducted. I can understand this and I think it's fair enough.
The thing is, I want to deposit $100 dollars, play roulette and in the event that I lose, play BJ or something. But after reading some issues other players have had like playing with THEIR money, not the bonus money, trying to cash out and having it refused, I'm serious thinking o... | | Read Entire Entry |
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