| Posted by: THoMZoNE at February 9, 2008, 7:36 am | | Topic: Prism Casino and Virtual Casino Forum: Winner Online |
Hi guys & girls... i dontunderstand.... please read this... and answer
Marcello: Welcome. How may I help you today?
THoMZoNE: Hi there
THoMZoNE: can you help me in the withdrawal?
THoMZoNE: I would like to find out whether I am entitled to ordering the payment.
Marcello: sorry , you played on a free coupon designed as a reward for depositing players, and even for them the maximum cash out is 110$
Marcello: here it is :
Marcello: $55 FREE CHIP
Marcello: Try Again Free Chip!
Marcello: 30X Playthrough
Marcello: $110 Max Cash-Out
Marcello: Redeem: 55NEWYEARSGN
Marcello: No Deposit Required
Marcello: (Must have deposited with Virtual in the past to claim this chip.)
THoMZoNE: aham
THoMZoNE: ok
THoMZoNE: good
THoMZoNE:
THoMZoNE: and
Marcello: sorry
THoMZoNE: what can i do any money?
Marcello: when you are ready to deposit
Marcello: we will reward you with good coupons that give you good chan... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Bethug at April 27, 2007, 1:04 pm | | Topic: Prism Casino and Virtual Casino Forum: Winner Online |
Kakata , should not play at any rogue casino. I put on the loud speaker dont touch the wall cause its paint on it and you do it anyway, who fault is it. Kakata know that cystal palance casino is a no paying casino and him and others keeping them in business
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| Posted by: Bethug at April 27, 2007, 11:57 am | | Topic: Prism Casino and Virtual Casino Forum: Winner Online |
This is another casino never to play at
Prism Casino
Virtural Casino
IF you like real time gaming software, stick to inetbet and bodog
Prism casino and irtural casino will do everything in there power not to pay you. Dont matter what kind of bonus they give out stay away.
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Theopu.com
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| Posted by: caruso at April 18, 2007, 5:15 am | | Topic: Prism Casino and Virtual Casino Forum: Winner Online |
There is no back up at RTG. If a licensee decides not to pay, there is nothing you can do. You can contact any affiliates you can find who promote this group, but the kind of lowlife affiliate who'd promote Virtual is not the kind to be particularly interested in helping players.
You could try scanning and emailing the documents - I have only ever used this method, never crappy faxes - but if they've decided to not pay they will either just go on inventing excuses or clam up and stop responding.
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| Posted by: Robertsgirl at April 16, 2007, 6:42 am | | Topic: Prism Casino and Virtual Casino Forum: Winner Online |
HELP!!!
Virtual Casino is saying that they can not read my faxed information. I have faxed the documents in four times. I have attached the e-mail that I have sent to the Manager. Geez...What a supprise! As of this AM I have not received any type of correspondance.
I was warned by Samantha, at their sister Casino (Prism) that if I posted anything and did not talk to the manager first, that I would "Piss them off". Basically telling me that I would not be paid. Guess that she was right.
To: <amit@casinosupportcenter.com>
Subject: Withdraw
Date: Thu 04/12/2007 04:05 PM
Dear Sir,
There are several area' s of concern with Virtual Casino. My first concern is that I requested a withdraw on March 24, 2007, and still have not received the money. I have now faxed the documents in four times. I have also received an e-mail from the accounting department, stating that my withdraw would be processed this past M... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Robertsgirl at April 9, 2007, 3:56 pm | | Topic: Prism Casino and Virtual Casino Forum: Winner Online |
Well.... a new problem with Virtual. I have an e-mail from the Casino stating that I should be paid today. Contacted Support--and I have attached their coorespondance.
Thank you for using our LiveChat Service. This is 'Danny'. How can I help you?
lisarobert: I am checking on my withdraw
Danny: user?
lisarobert: robertsgirl
Danny: nothing yet
lisarobert: I have an e-mail that stated that my deposit should have been made today.
lisarobert: Is your Manager available?
Danny: the day is not over
lisarobert: Can you check with the Accounting Department, or the Manager to see if my deposit is going to be processed today?
Danny: Missing:
Danny: -Picture ID
Danny: -F/B copies of
Danny: 400766******7068
Danny: 400766******9997
Danny: 400766******6619
Danny: -Auth Forms for the credit cards above
Danny: -Front copy of
Danny: 400766******7363
Danny: these are the notes in the acct
Danny: you must send these in before... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Robertsgirl at April 6, 2007, 12:39 pm | | Topic: Prism Casino and Virtual Casino Forum: Winner Online |
I received $482.00 from Prism Casino--I posted my customer service information. The money was to be deposited into my account. They decided to Western Union the money to me, and charged me an additional $18.00.
I still have not been paid by Virtual Casino. Virtual was the Casino that I "won" the random Jackpot.
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| Posted by: Robertsgirl at April 3, 2007, 12:13 pm | | Topic: Prism Casino and Virtual Casino Forum: Winner Online |
In my opinion, my hitting the random Jackpot does not justify the term "random". Would it not be interesting to really know how many random jackpot winners there were that werent really paid. Meaning the Casino jackpot says the random is 20,000.00--the person deposited 100.00, they are onlt paid 1,000.00 (because of the 10X rule). However, the Casino absorbes the remaining 19,000.00. I guess the point that I am trying to make is, in my opinion....Virtual Casino allowed me to win the random, knowing they would not have to pay the whole amount. Just my opinion. Seems logical to me.
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| Posted by: GrandMaster at April 3, 2007, 11:55 am | | Topic: Prism Casino and Virtual Casino Forum: Winner Online |
You should not forget that scummy casinos will send you one set of T&C in the promo e-mail and have another one on their website, and in case of discrepancy, they will apply whichever is more favourable to them. This is the trick that Casino Kingdom pulled on me a couple of years ago, the only casino that successfully cheated me out of my own money.
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| Posted by: joeyl at April 3, 2007, 8:38 am | | Topic: Prism Casino and Virtual Casino Forum: Winner Online |
Agreed, it is not easy. The highstreet betting shops here in the UK have a aried max payout per day. If one bets a 12 horse accumulator for £10, and the winnings come to £12million, they'll only get the max payout permittable.
The difference is, the rules are stuck up on a big poster on the wall in full iew of the punter. Either at the entrance, or at the payout till. All rules are on 1 page too.
# My main point is the terms should be put in the bonus email offering. If I ever worked at a casino that sent out a bonus offer, i'd insist the terms go out in the email. I'd accept 1 webpage, with the terms for the bonus, clearly linked to in the email and a script engaged, whereby if the recipient does not click the link to say they have read and therefore accept the terms, no bone.
Sprayed all around the gaff somewhere deep in the website is just not good enough for a multi-million/billion$ industry to accept as fair cricket.
What can you do? The player always gets ignore... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: bonuslover at April 3, 2007, 8:07 am | | Topic: Prism Casino and Virtual Casino Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by joeyl
The problem is BL, if the less experienced player does do as you advise, ie read the relevant term to the bonus at hand, someone will come a cropper from a term written elsewhere. It happens all the time, then the casino(s) drag out a rule from out yonder and the player gets the middle finger.
# Put the relevant terms in the promo and make the games unplayable until the player presses "I accept", the terms as is, at the time I say.
I guess you are right, I am too experienced to judge.
Quote: Originally Posted by joeyl
Robertsgirl won on a game that she could not collect the full winnings on. To me, the game should not even be playable with the bonus then.
That's just an inherent problem not easy to be solved. Once CM was asked what if a player hit a million dollar jackpot using his bonus account whether the player would be required to wager it 30x in order to transfer it to cash (this was the cas... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Bethug at April 3, 2007, 7:47 am | | Topic: Prism Casino and Virtual Casino Forum: Winner Online |
Webmasters should demand the casino treat the player correctly
Jon, most webmasters never will. You got big webmasters auctioning data bases, then tell others they cant offer them on the there site. Some of these webmasters worst than car salesman
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| Posted by: joeyl at April 3, 2007, 7:29 am | | Topic: Prism Casino and Virtual Casino Forum: Winner Online |
I prefer civilised BL. No need to apologise to me though.
Your point about the terms is not lost upon me. An old hand like you will know from experience what is, or is not relevant.
The problem is BL, if the less experienced player does do as you advise, ie read the relevant term to the bonus at hand, someone will come a cropper from a term written elsewhere. It happens all the time, then the casino(s) drag out a rule from out yonder and the player gets the middle finger.
Then webmasters say it's in the terms, tough titty, you should have read ALL the terms on the website, and check back constantly too. Every 24 hrs is no good either, because the terms can change anytime, and they are not timestamped
# Put the relevant terms in the promo and make the games unplayable until the player presses "I accept", the terms as is, at the time I say.
Robertsgirl won on a game that she could not collect the full winnings on. To me, the game should not even be ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: bonuslover at April 3, 2007, 6:46 am | | Topic: Prism Casino and Virtual Casino Forum: Winner Online |
The most relevant page is the one titled "Playthrough Requirements"
The info is conveyed in the form of a table - You could say it's long, but each player only needs to look up the part which is relevant to his bonus (below 50%, above 50% etc.) and its not that hard. And the terms are definitely not 'hidden' as you claim - you are not right to say that. As I said earlier and you simply ignored that if the player takes a bonus he must have tried to find out and learn the WR (which in this case it appears the player did or else he would have complaint about WR as well), and in that case, it is almost close to IMPOSSIBLE he would miss the 10x Limit.
Again, I maintain that the terms written by them is pretty well done. If you think the casino is bad because they are many terms, then in this instance all online casinos should be rogued.
By the way I retrieve all insults I used on you, sorry ok and let's keep things civilised.
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| Posted by: joeyl at April 3, 2007, 5:37 am | | Topic: Prism Casino and Virtual Casino Forum: Winner Online |
Your site has more relevance to the thread, than whether I should move to China if I want to live without terms.
Anyway, was that link in the promo?
& you send me a link like it makes your piont alid, which links to 4 seperate pages with 8 rules on each page X a 500-1000 word essay on each page?
Gamblers want to gamble, not read half a novel.
& you are the one with a website advertising every microgaming casino alive. So what if Virtual possibly do have easier read terms than most Micros? That is making my point for me.
Maybe you should block my posts too. You must hate sprinting around with me jogging alongside.
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| Posted by: bonuslover at April 3, 2007, 5:23 am | | Topic: Prism Casino and Virtual Casino Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by joeyl
Maybe you use paid advertising, ppc, word of mouth, cards in shop windows, handing out fliers at the park and bus stop graffiti for all I know, for the other 5%.
Either it is another instance of your misinformation or I have been SERIOUSLY overcharged. Anways you can keep poking around how my site is run has nothing to do with this thread and it's really none of your business.
Quote: Originally Posted by joeyl
with ague reference to other terms that are not easily accessible BL.
Please I urge you, read this link and could you reaffirm your position that those terms really are "not easily accessible". The Playthrough requirements are written right next to the max cashout clause, so if the player knew about the WR, she couldn't have missed the latter. And damn, now that I really look at it, the whole thing is even better written than many MGs'.
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| Posted by: joeyl at April 3, 2007, 5:07 am | | Topic: Prism Casino and Virtual Casino Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by bonuslover
I would. It would be done next time I update my site.
Could you do me a favor? I am sure you are a suscriber to SEO Elite. Run a check on my site, see what ranks I am getting on all major search engines and as a matter of fact, whether I have actually listed my site to anyother enginges except google. Come tell the results to joeyl. Yeah, the guy who thinks he knows things.
Thanks
BL.com is in Msn & Yahoo, 92 backlinks show from 3 forums. 95% WOL's.
I can see you don't use SEO. 95% of your clicks probably come direct ia this forum ranking highly for your your posts in the casino advert sections. Why else sig link and post aff links then?
Maybe you use paid advertising, ppc, word of mouth, cards in shop windows, handing out fliers at the park and bus stop graffiti for all I know, for the other 5%.
If you like to say i'm senile and blatantly misquote me, i'll mention what my opinion is of your intentions com... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: caruso at April 3, 2007, 4:24 am | | Topic: Prism Casino and Virtual Casino Forum: Winner Online |
I third the proposal. Without sig links there would be none of the opportunistic posts made purely for the purpose of publicising the member's site. It would also keep more traffic on the host site and not give an opportunity almost every single bleeding post to hop off somewhere else. I see no advantage to the host site other than ostensibly encouraging users to sign up who might otherwise not, but since these users are counter-productive anyway, I see no advantage here, only disadvantage to the host.
Quote:
My biggest complaint is that I hit a randon Jackpot for $7,500.00--and could only cash out for 10X my deposit! This rule was not specified on the coupon--I did find it in their extensive rules.
I took a look at the Prism site. There is in fact NO terms link. The only way to find the terms is to click on "casino rules" at the bottom, which lo and behold then brings up "general promotional rules" - not exactly where you'd expect to find ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Schankwart at April 3, 2007, 4:10 am | | Topic: Prism Casino and Virtual Casino Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by eek
Would be a great idea IMO.
There's plenty of other forums in here available for spamm.
Your profile can carry a site link if anyone wants to know about you.
Double-agreed by me. WOL is being used by spammers as a booster for their traffic. Most of these poster do not contribute anything relevant to the topics of "Casino discussion". Their links shall go where they belong to!
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| Posted by: eek at April 3, 2007, 2:41 am | | Topic: Prism Casino and Virtual Casino Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by joeyl
I would ban an all sig links. They contribute zilch to the host and attract allsorts of amatuer seo pond life.
Would be a great idea IMO.
There's plenty of other forums in here available for spamm.
Your profile can carry a site link if anyone wants to know about you.
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| Posted by: bonuslover at April 2, 2007, 8:38 pm | | Topic: Prism Casino and Virtual Casino Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by dominique
BL really needs to link back to WOL. Common courtesy.
I would. It would be done next time I update my site.
Could you do me a favor? I am sure you are a suscriber to SEO Elite. Run a check on my site, see what ranks I am getting on all major search engines and as a matter of fact, whether I have actually listed my site to anyother enginges except google. Come tell the results to joeyl. Yeah, the guy who thinks he knows things.
Thanks
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| Posted by: bonuslover at April 2, 2007, 8:26 pm | | Topic: Prism Casino and Virtual Casino Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by joeyl
I know what BL is on, I know these things.
Most RTGs have this 10x rule, I see this time the hate is not over the rule, but the casino itself. Anyways it's absolutely fair we hold different opinions on "hidden terms". But if this player doesn't get paid later, then that's a different issue and I am sure I will be on the same page as you.
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| Posted by: joeyl at April 2, 2007, 3:41 pm | | Topic: Prism Casino and Virtual Casino Forum: Winner Online |
I think you'll find the same cannot be said for Yahoo, and most certainly not MSN at this moment in time. There are also many other small search engines that will count multiple sig links from a site with this kind of age behind it.
I would ban an all sig links. They contribute zilch to the host and attract allsorts of amatuer seo pond life.
I know what BL is on, I know these things.
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| Posted by: dominique at April 2, 2007, 2:33 pm | | Topic: Prism Casino and Virtual Casino Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by joeyl
multiple posts of waffle to build up post count as backlinks to your banner farm
No matter how many times you post in a forum, google only attaches weight to one of the links.
Changing the bolded sig text is likely an attempt to draw the other WOL isitor's attention to it.
BL really needs to link back to WOL. Common courtesy.
BL, Caruso, cut it out already. No topic here survives because you two get at each other's throats. It's annoying. Go to the thread BingoT started for you and have it out there, it will be amusing to watch. But don't screw up everyone's threads.
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| Posted by: joeyl at April 2, 2007, 2:30 pm | | Topic: Prism Casino and Virtual Casino Forum: Winner Online |
I personally don't consider BL words as an attack. My opinion that BL is a spammer who posts guff inbetween aff linkage, to make it look like that is not his driving motive for posting atall, is not an attack either. It just happens to be my opinion.
The poster deposited and played, hit a jackpot. Then found out by reading a bunch more terms a 10X cashout rule applies.
My personal opinion is that any casino offering a bonus ia email, should take the time to print all directly relevant terms in the promo email. Plus, once a deposit is received & bonus is awarded, the player should be sent a copy of the relevant terms, and the casino games disallowed automatically until activated by clicking "agree".
In that light, BL's comment that I am saying no terms should apply, is guffle imo.
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| Posted by: caruso at April 2, 2007, 1:45 pm | | Topic: Prism Casino and Virtual Casino Forum: Winner Online |
That's rather ironic considering who started sniping once more, isn't it? Exactly which rule would you suggest is iolated in the above post?
Quote: Originally Posted by bonuslover
Looks like someone is getting senile.
You post an attack, and a personal attack at that, then start quoting the WOL rules which say words to the effect of "don't attack", and that when you have had those exact same rules quoted back at you not so long ago as a warning to not break the rules.
And you complain about "ad hominem" attacks - which means "to the person" - when all the comments you don't like, regarding your site and the rubbish casinos you carry on it, have been factual and not "ad hominem", and where the only person making ad hominem attacks is you yourself.
You post attacks and then claim that you are attacked.
You quote rules you consider "violated", which you iolate yourself and have been war... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: bonuslover at April 2, 2007, 12:17 pm | | Topic: Prism Casino and Virtual Casino Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by joeyl
Anyway, the poster received an offer from a rogue advertiser of yours and fell foul of the terms hidden amongst the dross, whereas it should have been made clear in the promo email what the terms were in full, as far as i'm concerned.
Here is a link for you, I dont' think you or anybody else have actually read it. I am sure there is actually a more elaborated ersion of it somewhere. Let's rogue WOL as well, shall we?
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| Posted by: joeyl at April 2, 2007, 11:17 am | | Topic: Prism Casino and Virtual Casino Forum: Winner Online |
Your constant changing of your bolded sig text, multiple posts of waffle to build up post count as backlinks to your banner farm, rule breaking by double posting aff posts, hogging ia rebumping of the promo forums and lack of a link back to winneronline, explains all I need to know about your motives BL.
I may be wrong, but far from embarrassed about calling your guff for what I see it as. Maybe you just like the WOL logo.
Anyway, the poster received an offer from a rogue advertiser of yours and fell foul of the terms hidden amongst the dross, whereas it should have been made clear in the promo email what the terms were in full, as far as i'm concerned.
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| Posted by: bonuslover at April 2, 2007, 7:29 am | | Topic: Prism Casino and Virtual Casino Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by joeyl
80% of your 3000+ posts are affiliate coded anyhow BL.
80%? Sure, looks like someone needs to retake primary school math. Please stop embarassing yourself really.
Are you and caruso (actually who cares about him I'd stopped reading his stuff long ago) ever capable of restraining yourselves from resorting to ad hominem attacks when you can't win an argument over matters that are relevant to the main issues?
The player initially complains about not being capable to win more than the terms and conditions would allow. This clearly is the player's fault, not the casino's.
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| Posted by: Robertsgirl at April 2, 2007, 7:02 am | | Topic: Prism Casino and Virtual Casino Forum: Winner Online |
AHHHHHH
Just thought that everyone should see this. Here is my correspondance with Prism Casino...Wow
Please wait for a site operator to respond.
Thank you for using our LiveChat Service. This is 'David'. How can I help you?
David: Thank you for contacting Prism Casino. How can I help you today?
lisasmith: I was told that my withdraw was processed last week. As of this morning, the funds have not been received by my financial institution. Can you assist?
David: Sure, one moment please
lisasmith: Thanks
David: The money was sent on the 30th ia Western Union
David: Contro number
David: Sender's name is
David: Amount: 482.00 Fees: 18.00
lisasmith: ????? The money was to be sent by wire, to my bank.
David: Accounting sent it ia Western Union. It seems that the fees are lower and this was faster
lisasmith: OKAY....David, please help me out here. Shouldn't someone have asked me?
lisasmith: Or maybe told me...something??
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| Posted by: Robertsgirl at April 2, 2007, 6:22 am | | Topic: Prism Casino and Virtual Casino Forum: Winner Online |
Just checked my bank account--- There has not been a wire from Prism Casino. I am in the process of e-mailing the Casino Manager, AGAIN! Just to clarify--my issue with Prism Casino is their failure to process a withdraw, and their Customer Service staff. One female in particular gave me three different days that my alledged deposit occurred--and when I explained that she was the one that gave the "misinformation", she became aggitated and nasty.
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