| Posted by: joeyl at November 19, 2007, 5:07 pm | | Topic: I hate vegas palms Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by GrandMaster
Call me the eternal optimist. If everybody filed a complaint, at least it would show up in the statistics and ecogra could not claim that their casinos are all wonderful and trouble-free, although presumably they would claim that the increase is due to increased awareness.
Ecogra run the TGTR in house now.
They should know total deposits in, total bonuses given, total amount played, total amount won, total amount paid, and to which account(s).
Hence they should know exactly how much has been confiscated from players winnings.
If they claim no to know the amount of players who have been refused payout, the "total gaming transaction review" is not so total afterall.
"Transparency" won't mean publicising players total winnings confiscated for this that or the other anytime soon.
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| Posted by: caruso at November 19, 2007, 9:28 am | | Topic: I hate vegas palms Forum: Winner Online |
Here is the problem, notwithstandingbig the absence of big BJ, bacc or roulette bets:
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Other examples of irregular game play include but are not limited to, placing single bets using your entire or the majority of your account balance, >>>where the majority of that balance is made up of bonus balance<<<.
If at any point she is at least $25 below her starting point, or down an amount which will result in the next bet encroaching on any part of that £50 bonus, and if that next bet is at least 51% of the entire remaining balance, Fortune Lounge reserves the right to rob her. So if she's got $30 left, and her next bet is $20, Fortune Lounge will rob her as per that term.
eCOGRA says this is OK.
By their lack of any action, comment or anything else, I infer that Jetset and Bailey also think this is OK (gentlemen, feel free to correct me).
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| Posted by: GrandMaster at November 19, 2007, 5:16 am | | Topic: I hate vegas palms Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by lisaloveslollipops
I played slots only and wagered over $20000 on my $50 deposit with a cashin of $80... I am getting ignored by the casino but I at least got my $50 back... I am sure I wouldn't get my $50 back if I lost
Did you take a bonus? Can you just confim that you did not do anything like betting your whole bankroll on a single hand of blackjack or baccarat, or a single sping of roulette?
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| Posted by: GrandMaster at November 19, 2007, 5:14 am | | Topic: I hate vegas palms Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by caruso
This is plain naive. eCOGRA doesn't care about anything beyond whitewashing the casinos.
Call me the eternal optimist. If everybody filed a complaint, at least it would show up in the statistics and ecogra could not claim that their casinos are all wonderful and trouble-free, although presumably they would claim that the increase is due to increased awareness.
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| Posted by: lisaloveslollipops at November 18, 2007, 10:16 pm | | Topic: I hate vegas palms Forum: Winner Online |
I played slots only and wagered over $20000 on my $50 deposit with a cashin of $80... I am getting ignored by the casino but I at least got my $50 back... I am sure I wouldn't get my $50 back if I lost
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| Posted by: caruso at November 18, 2007, 3:31 pm | | Topic: I hate vegas palms Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by GrandMaster
...or maybe even realise that something is not quite right with those casinos.
This is plain naive. eCOGRA doesn't care about anything beyond whitewashing the casinos. Andrew Beveridge and Tex Reese are the same thinking individuals that we are. They know that "pattern abuse" is "bonus abuse" under a different name and total rogue behaviour when used to steal winnings. What is "right", "wrong" or whatever else is of absolutely no relevance whatsever to them - a fact entirely erified by their willing complicity with the casinos that invoke it. Of course, I'm happy to be proven wrong. I'm happy to see Tex Reese come out and say, hang on a sec, what's all this "pattern abuse" about, and start giving Fortune Lounge et al the treatment they deserve. But it will never happen, because Tex and Andrew's job is to whitewash Microgaming.
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| Posted by: GrandMaster at November 18, 2007, 3:19 pm | | Topic: I hate vegas palms Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by caruso
Well yes, nothing to lose, but absolutely nothing to gain. She'd be better off doing something else. eCOGRA's Unfair Gaming Advocate Tex Reese will bleat "pattern abuse", and Lisa will remain robbed. We all know the score by now - eCOGRA is a Micogaming whitewash service.
Waste of time.
No. If everybody complained, then ecogra would have to take on extra staff, or stop accepting complaints from the casinos involved, or maybe even realise that something is not quite right with those casinos. At the least, the complaints would show up in the statistics.
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| Posted by: caruso at November 18, 2007, 11:25 am | | Topic: I hate vegas palms Forum: Winner Online |
Well yes, nothing to lose, but absolutely nothing to gain. She'd be better off doing something else. eCOGRA's Unfair Gaming Advocate Tex Reese will bleat "pattern abuse", and Lisa will remain robbed. We all know the score by now - eCOGRA is a Micogaming whitewash service.
Waste of time.
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| Posted by: lisaloveslollipops at November 17, 2007, 10:25 am | | Topic: I hate vegas palms Forum: Winner Online |
I have read that ecogra does nothing about this and I have just recently read everything about Fortune Lounge group... I wish I knew this earlier but I am happy playing elsewhere.
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| Posted by: GrandMaster at November 17, 2007, 7:18 am | | Topic: I hate vegas palms Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by lisaloveslollipops
I think this casino is the worst. I deposited $50 and tried to cashin $80 after meeting the terms and they lock my account and call me abusive. I am not impressed but looks like I am not alone here.
Try http://ecogra.org/dispute.aspx?Page=3&OP=P.
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| Posted by: BingoT at November 17, 2007, 6:11 am | | Topic: I hate vegas palms Forum: Winner Online |
Hello Lisa,
Did you ever contact eCOGRA or the Rep yet?
And I like to Welcome you to WOL also.
Good Luck to ya.
Tom B-T
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| Posted by: lisaloveslollipops at November 12, 2007, 2:10 pm | | Topic: I hate vegas palms Forum: Winner Online |
I think this casino is the worst. I deposited $50 and tried to cashin $80 after meeting the terms and they lock my account and call me abusive. I am not impressed but looks like I am not alone here.
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