| Posted by: donnieb at November 29, 2007, 6:46 am | | Topic: swiss casino Forum: Winner Online |
dear themickinnz,
I have played there in the past but always lost money so I can't personally advise you but there is a great site that list rogue or non-paying casinos(http://www.casinomeister.com) and at present he doesn't have them listed as rogue.
I wished we players had a strong advocacy group with teeth to re-coup our money that arious casinos have stolen from we there paying customers. i mean gosh...they have a house edge out of this world and still want more. Greed seems to rule at these rogue casinos.
I'm in a simial situation, in that I didn't check before depositing $1,700.00 into a casino without checking. I've since have "won" $8,400.00 and have yet to see a penny of it. Although it has only been since the 23rd and I've faxed my documents in ect(twice now) and they say they will pay me $2700.00 a month until all is paid. I want mention the casinos name due to the fact that i may be called a spammer. I assure you I'm not. I own an internet Stamp and rare c... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: themickinnz at November 27, 2007, 12:09 pm | | Topic: swiss casino Forum: Winner Online |
can anyone tell me if this site is legit im waiting on $10,000n.z from this company with their so called security checks, keep getting phone calls back saying havent received documents. i know most people go through this procedure to get their money i have this problem most t imes i cash out but alarm bells started ringing out this morning when i received an email from the kahnawake gaming commisssion saying that they are not a licenced with them and another place they say they are licenced for in antigua yet no licence again. ive done a fair bit of digging but ive only found one bitch for this website. anyone know anymore?
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| Posted by: caruso at August 23, 2003, 5:17 am | | Topic: swiss casino Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by scasino:
so am i.
sorry, i will chase them about it
So can we assume that Playtech are just keeping their heads down on the issue of their proven rigged software?
Any comment? Any comment at all?
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| Posted by: gamblinboi at August 9, 2003, 12:58 pm | | Topic: swiss casino Forum: Winner Online |
scasino, thanks for helping to clarify this. I and I think everyone else here would love to hear more about what Playtech thinks of the OCA results. Hopefully they will not just respond with "The payouts are fair and equal to or better than odds in Las Vegas" because we're all tired of that line
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| Posted by: scasino at August 9, 2003, 5:57 am | | Topic: swiss casino Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by caruso:
Still waiting here.
so am i.
sorry, i will chase them about it
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| Posted by: ohdreampop at August 7, 2003, 7:50 pm | | Topic: swiss casino Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by bewitch:
ohdreampop, do you get your withdraw yet?
Just wondering....
I received it today. Very promptly after I sent a scan of my license. I'm overall ery happy with the experience.
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| Posted by: Geoff Hall at August 7, 2003, 4:08 pm | | Topic: swiss casino Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by allCasinosCheat:
Clayman, could provide me a link or the book name of this author janecek explaining HA and BS of BJ Switch
thanks
acc :-
The link is http://www.wizardofodds.com/games/b.../bj_switch.html
The slight changes to The Wiz's BS were mentioned earlier in this thread by Clayman.
The HA is 0.05% for perfect play and 'switching'.
Clayman - Thankyou for your ery kind comments - I wish you success in your online exploits and please let me know if there is any further information that you need in the future.
Best regards
Geoff
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| Posted by: bewitch at August 7, 2003, 3:16 pm | | Topic: swiss casino Forum: Winner Online |
Got my $150 at Neteller.
Now only one more $140 should be process tomorrow. So far, I am ery happy with it.
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| Posted by: Clayman at August 7, 2003, 1:38 pm | | Topic: swiss casino Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by allCasinosCheat:
Clayman, could provide me a link or the book name of this author janecek explaining HA and BS of BJ Switch
I know of no book about BJ Switch or even a link, other than the Wiz, where you will find BS of BJS. I learned what I learned from bulletin boards and postings.
I think Karel Janecek is a mathematician and maybe invented the SBA software.
You may or may not know that Geoff Hall, the prior poster, is the inventor of BJ Switch and I believe he asked Karel to help him in analysis of the game.
I don't know what you mean about explaining House Advantage (HA).
Geoff - I hope that it is not bad news for you that BJS has a higher payback than regular BJ. Guess it stands to reason given the fact you lose your money 18 times more slowly compared to some of those god-awful BJ games out there.
And, while I'm here, I'd just like to publicly thank you for your continued willingness to answer honestly and completely all... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: caruso at August 7, 2003, 1:28 pm | | Topic: swiss casino Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by scasino:
caruso
i have sent your question off to Playtech for a comprehensive answer, I will post it as soon as I receive a reply.
thanks
Still waiting here.
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| Posted by: bewitch at August 7, 2003, 1:16 pm | | Topic: swiss casino Forum: Winner Online |
Swiss casino just sent me emails about my withdraw were processed. $150 back my Credit card and $150 "should" go my Neteller account.
No ID or question asked. They processed the withdraw right on time. (96 hours after ask withdraw). The $150 didn't arrive my Neteller account and I sent them an email to erify the details.
Just to keep you update! They do send A LOT of email (everyday) as you guys talked about before. Well, I just delete it.
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| Posted by: allCasinosCheat at August 7, 2003, 11:40 am | | Topic: swiss casino Forum: Winner Online |
Clayman, could provide me a link or the book name of this author janecek explaining HA and BS of BJ Switch
thanks
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| Posted by: Geoff Hall at August 7, 2003, 11:02 am | | Topic: swiss casino Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by Clayman:
Quote: Originally Posted by Geoff Hall:
6,6 erses dealer 4 (not 3) is a split rather than a hit.
Thanks for the correction. That is what I was thinking. Can't even type what I'm thinking.
Glad to hear about the land-based presence growing.
Any current plans for a re-emergence in AC or coming to Detroit?
Good luck in Vegas - hope the long trip proves worth it.
Thanks Clayman
As far as AC goes then they are waiting for initial results to emerge from Las Vegas before installing the new 'Push 22' ersion. Same applies to Detroit and also Indiana so The 4 Queens will be a ital field trial regarding future installations into other states.
Glad to see that your online results look ery encouraging concerning 'BJSwitch' - I get all of the results from every casino and the payback % is actually higher than that of regular Blackjack so players must be getting the hang of the game :-)
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| Posted by: Clayman at August 7, 2003, 10:06 am | | Topic: swiss casino Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by Geoff Hall:
6,6 erses dealer 4 (not 3) is a split rather than a hit.
Thanks for the correction. That is what I was thinking. Can't even type what I'm thinking.
Glad to hear about the land-based presence growing.
Any current plans for a re-emergence in AC or coming to Detroit?
Good luck in Vegas - hope the long trip proves worth it.
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| Posted by: Geoff Hall at August 7, 2003, 9:48 am | | Topic: swiss casino Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by Clayman:
Quote: Originally Posted by ohdreampop:
Didn't the Wiz do consulting for Playtech? If so, wouldn't it be more than an assumption?
I think the Wiz did do consulting for Playtech in the past. I don't think he was consulted on the BJ Switch game as far as I know.
I just meant, as the Wiz says, he assumed an infinite deck when creating his EV tables rather than 6 decks. I'm pretty sure this accounts for the differences on Basic Strategy between the two.
More specifically, and I'm going only by memory here, and maybe Geoff will correct me if I am wrong, I do the following:
Stand on 12 s 5 & 6 rather than hit per the Wiz
Double A,5 s 6 rather than hit per Wiz
Double A,6 s 5 rather than hit per Wiz
Split 6,6 s 3 rather than hit per Wiz
Hit 11 s 9 rather than double per Wiz
Keep in mind the Wiz never calculated the overall HA, Janecek did.
Hi Clayman
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| Posted by: bonuslover at August 7, 2003, 9:06 am | | Topic: swiss casino Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by Clayman:
Stand on 12 s 5 & 6 rather than hit per the Wiz
Double A,5 s 6 rather than hit per Wiz
Double A,6 s 5 rather than hit per Wiz
Split 6,6 s 3 rather than hit per Wiz
Hit 11 s 9 rather than double per Wiz
And that was by memory?
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| Posted by: Clayman at August 7, 2003, 8:53 am | | Topic: swiss casino Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by ohdreampop:
Didn't the Wiz do consulting for Playtech? If so, wouldn't it be more than an assumption?
I think the Wiz did do consulting for Playtech in the past. I don't think he was consulted on the BJ Switch game as far as I know.
I just meant, as the Wiz says, he assumed an infinite deck when creating his EV tables rather than 6 decks. I'm pretty sure this accounts for the differences on Basic Strategy between the two.
More specifically, and I'm going only by memory here, and maybe Geoff will correct me if I am wrong, I do the following:
Stand on 12 s 5 & 6 rather than hit per the Wiz
Double A,5 s 6 rather than hit per Wiz
Double A,6 s 5 rather than hit per Wiz
Split 6,6 s 4 rather than hit per Wiz
Hit 11 s 9 rather than double per Wiz
Keep in mind the Wiz never calculated the overall HA, Janecek did.
Edited to correct original posting which mistakenly said to split 6,6 s 3.
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| Posted by: ohdreampop at August 7, 2003, 7:52 am | | Topic: swiss casino Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by Clayman:
trusting the sims of Karel Janecek more than the Wiz's infinite deck assumption.
Didn't the Wiz do consulting for Playtech? If so, wouldn't it be more than an assumption?
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| Posted by: Clayman at August 7, 2003, 7:35 am | | Topic: swiss casino Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by magnate:
BJ Switch is my new favorite Playtech game as the ties are much more often and the win/lose usually lower 40 percent each.
If it's of any help as a guideline, my win rate is 40.96%, loss rate 42.74%, tie rate 16.30% over 8,000+ hands. Pay-out%=99.76%, down $22 if I had bet $1/hand.
8.8% of all hands are doubles going 49.66%W, 32.51%L, 17.83%T.
I continue to use the Wiz's EV's for all switch decisions but use the BS advocated by Geoff Hall where it differs from the BS advocated by the Wiz, trusting the sims of Karel Janecek more than the Wiz's infinite deck assumption.
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| Posted by: magnate at August 6, 2003, 9:58 am | | Topic: swiss casino Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by ohdreampop:
Has anyone else been asked for a copy of their driver's license here? I have never had that happen at a Playtech casino before.
I have been asked. The latest Playtech asking was the Golden Palace group. GP, Grand Online and Aspinalls were offering sticky bonuses.
My results at Aspinalls playing BJ Switch were the most disconcerting as I went into a 24 straight lose session when I increased my wagers.
BJ Switch is my new favorite Playtech game as the ties are much more often and the win/lose usually lower 40 percent each. House more wins of course and I do overbet my BR to often making me crazy.
It did bother me having the house at a couple Playtech casinos slip into astly increased winning patterns when I changed my wagering.
All casinos do not play the same even if use same software supplier.
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| Posted by: ohdreampop at August 6, 2003, 8:23 am | | Topic: swiss casino Forum: Winner Online |
Has anyone else been asked for a copy of their driver's license here? I have never had that happen at a Playtech casino before.
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| Posted by: drlucky at August 4, 2003, 12:55 pm | | Topic: swiss casino Forum: Winner Online |
why did swiss casino lose their original domain name? www.swisscasino.com is now something else?!
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| Posted by: scasino at August 4, 2003, 12:30 pm | | Topic: swiss casino Forum: Winner Online |
hi
the offer is still open as long as you signup from the wizards newsletter.
email marketing@scasino.com when you have deposited and the bonus will be credited to your account.
thanks
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| Posted by: raje at August 4, 2003, 9:41 am | | Topic: swiss casino Forum: Winner Online |
scasino,
Is the wiz offer still alid or has it expired?
Your support (i.e. support@scasino) didn't reply for three days n now I receive a reply saying there's no offer.
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| Posted by: scasino at August 4, 2003, 3:29 am | | Topic: swiss casino Forum: Winner Online |
The only explanation I can give for emails not being responded to is the change of email addresses we have undergone recently.
Please address all correspondences to support@scasino.com regarding general enquiries.
To claim the wizards extra $50 please email marketing@scasino.com and they will respond ery quickly to your request.
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| Posted by: Potts Corner at August 3, 2003, 11:14 pm | | Topic: swiss casino Forum: Winner Online |
My experience with Swiss Casino is as grim, if not grimmer, than what hhcfreebie reports.
Can not get the extra Wiz Odds $50 bonus as no-one from this Casino will respond to email.
Furthermore, from $2,500 of action I am down $200 flat betting $4 a BJ hand.
You know when you're getting stiffed and this crowd are dubious indeed. It is of great disappointment that Wiz of Odds had chosen to endorse such an outfit.
Don't play there if you have respect for money.
And if you're reading Swiss Casino for God's sake answer the emails - what are you frightened of?
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| Posted by: allCasinosCheat at August 3, 2003, 9:15 pm | | Topic: swiss casino Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by hhcfreebie:
My experience of this casino is among the worst.
First, they didn't bother to credit the extra 50 they promosed. It has been 2 days and they never bother to reply 2 of my emails, let along any bonus.
Secondly, the BJ result is among the worst I've ever seen:
I lost 58 units after 1213 units bet. The chance of that to happen is 1 in 8.8. Maybe it's just bad luck but I don't feel comfortable about it at all.
Then I thought I'll better luck on their VP, with 92.69% pay out it quickly killed me. Well VP is a game of high ariance so no complain here.
Bad result happens. Let me say it again, what I hate them the most is they do not reply emails.
Will they ever credit me any bonus at all? I sure hope so. Even with the $50 bonus I double I can survive the remain $1372 WR.
I'll keep everyone updated. Until then I'll advise everyone to stay away from this casino group.
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| Posted by: hhcfreebie at August 3, 2003, 8:54 pm | | Topic: swiss casino Forum: Winner Online |
My experience of this casino is not ery satisfying.
First, they didn't bother to credit the extra 50 they promosed. It has been 2 days and they never bother to reply 2 of my emails, let along any bonus.
Secondly, the BJ result is among the worst I've ever seen:
I lost 58 units after 1213 units bet. The chance of that to happen is 1 in 8.8. Maybe it's just bad luck but I don't feel comfortable about it at all.
Then I thought I'll better luck on their VP, with 92.69% pay out it quickly killed me. Well VP is a game of high ariance so no complain here.
Bad result happens. Let me say it again, what I hate them the most is they do not reply emails.
Will they ever credit me any bonus at all? I sure hope so. Even with the $50 bonus I double I can survive the remain $1372 WR.
I'll keep everyone updated.
edit: I did get the $50 bonus after sending an email to their new address. Maybe enting here helped.
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| Posted by: bewitch at August 3, 2003, 8:53 am | | Topic: swiss casino Forum: Winner Online |
Just request withdraw. It said I have to wait 96 hours and they will process it. Let's see how it go here.
My result is $150 + $20 deposit and got $154 bonus, after playing $6654 credit (95% BJ with $5-$10 per hand and few VP and let it ride). My final is $450.
So $324 --> $450
Ask cashin $300 and left $150 there for later. I think I am ery happy with it , especially after lose $100 at Omni. I NEVER win at SANDS, Omni or Intercasino even they are reputable.
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| Posted by: scasino at August 3, 2003, 7:35 am | | Topic: swiss casino Forum: Winner Online |
caruso
i have sent your question off to Playtech for a comprehensive answer, I will post it as soon as I receive a reply.
thanks
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| Posted by: caruso at August 3, 2003, 7:00 am | | Topic: swiss casino Forum: Winner Online |
Scasino - Thanks. I don't see any sign of that bullsh*t OPA logo on your site.
Furthermore, I just checked out a load of other Playtech sites, and I found the OPA logo on only ONE of them - two nice big, spanking "Approved by the OPA" logos on the Goldgate homepage.
Playtech overall seem a little embarrassed about the OPA affair.
Can I take this opportunity for a little clarification on one matter?
The OCA found that Playtech ideo poker was ery unlikely randomly dealt, ie. it functioned more like a slot machine, ie. it was rigged. The test wasn't concrete proof, but it did provide ery strong evidence.
You make the following statement:
"The ‘Dealer’ at the SCasino is actually a computer. To ensure that the performance of this computer is truly random, a sophisticated RNG (Random Number Generator) is utilized. The Random number generator and the SCasino software had been tested by leading international accounting and auditing firms, by r... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: bewitch at August 3, 2003, 5:44 am | | Topic: swiss casino Forum: Winner Online |
I know you guys didn't like them. But I have to say they do pay a lot attention to WOL post.
I got respond here right after my post. The manager just pop in earlier to say hello at casino and told me the special bonus offer from Wizard AND he put a special information on my account said BJ allowed. I am ery impressed with it.
In this case, I can't complaint. In fact, I am ery happy with the service. It was a ery nice surprise to be greeting. It's the first time ever happen to me.
I don't think I am not a ery experience player. In fact, I have the chart from Wizard next to me when I was playing. LOL.
I play exactly 20 x wagrement now and I made $39 more than my beginning on BJ (lose $40 on Let it ride). I never saw so much BJ on both players and dealers.
I will play BJ there even without bonus. It's just my PERSONAL experience.
I didn't cash in yet, jsut give you an update here. Have a good one to you all!
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| Posted by: scasino at August 3, 2003, 5:32 am | | Topic: swiss casino Forum: Winner Online |
bonuslover
we have tried many methods with wagering requirements and bonuses and have come to the conclusion that most of our players don't consider 20 times or even 25 times wagering a bind and enjoy more the idea of us leveraging their deposits with bigger bonuses. If players wish to play without bonuses then by all means enjoy all the casino has to offer with no ties at all.
caruso
before allowing us to advertise on wizard of odds, the wizard played the software and posted his findings on his site. he was satisfied with the results.
furthermore, we no longer use the opa to check the stats.
hope this has clarified our stance on any matters and i assure you that we strive to be fair and honest in all our dealings.
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| Posted by: bonuslover at August 3, 2003, 4:24 am | | Topic: swiss casino Forum: Winner Online |
scasino
even though i blocked your email it still somehow got to me. you offer me a 20% bonus with a 25X playthrough. are you nuts? or do you think players are nuts?
because i really dont know who in the right mind would play $3000WR for a $20 bonus.
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| Posted by: caruso at August 3, 2003, 4:24 am | | Topic: swiss casino Forum: Winner Online |
Stay away from Playtech; their VP was almost conclusively proven rigged / riggable, and they carry an "OPA approval" accredition which is a crock of misleading bullsh*t, ie. they bought it.
Beats me why anyone patronizes these lowlife, but hey, what do I know?
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| Posted by: bewitch at August 3, 2003, 3:31 am | | Topic: swiss casino Forum: Winner Online |
Thank you ! This is really a ery nice and quick respond. What a surprise!
Thank you again. Have a great Sunday!
UPDTE: Got my $50 this morning!
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| Posted by: scasino at August 3, 2003, 3:27 am | | Topic: swiss casino Forum: Winner Online |
I am really sorry about the confusion, this should not occur and CS has now been made fully aware of the fact that all players that have signed up under from the Wizards newsletter are entitled to the $150 bonus and are able to wager in BJ.
Hope you all enjoy the casino as much as ohdreampop.
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| Posted by: bewitch at August 3, 2003, 2:30 am | | Topic: swiss casino Forum: Winner Online |
You are RIGHT. I just got an email from their CS saying BJ doesn't count WR even after I sent him the Wizard's newletter ans told him so.
I had fun there, but I don't like this kind of confusion. If they don't allow BJ, then they shouldn't even metion it. Here is the newsletter from Wizard, but I guess Swiss casino CS didn't care!
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" So here's the deal: Get a 100% bonus on deposits up to $150 at Swiss Casino for new players. The first $100 will be automatic, e-mail the casino for the other $50. The play requirement is 20 times deposit and bonus. You can even play blackjack to meet this requirement, even though blackjack is disallowed for some other Swiss Casino promotions. (Does the Wizard hook you up or what?)
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