| Posted by: rdizzy at March 22, 2005, 8:36 pm | | Topic: Pre-Flop Strategies Forum: Card Chat |
I feel that you should have a set hand limit when you sit down at a table. so you knw the types of hands your willing to play
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| Posted by: western_cj at March 22, 2005, 7:58 pm | | Topic: Pre-Flop Strategies Forum: Card Chat |
if your a grinder at the casino then a cold call is the way to go but in a tournament it'll be the end of you...your good cards will always get beat by bad cards unless you raise the bad cards out of the pot...easier to do preflop then after letting them catch a good draw...
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| Posted by: digihhhballz at March 22, 2005, 7:58 pm | | Topic: Pre-Flop Strategies Forum: Card Chat |
i think he's talking about when you have high card and there's a straight draw or flush draw coming and you don't want ppl to get their cards...
or like you flop 2 pair with a 2/3 and you slow play it and they turn and river Aces and someone beats you with A/7 or something like that...
sometimes you have to just buy it when you have a chance to lose even with best hand before flop...at flop or even going into the river...make sure ppl don't get the chance of hitting their cards when it's in that situation where an opponent might have lot of outs...or easier draws....
Digi
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| Posted by: donvic at March 21, 2005, 6:30 pm | | Topic: Pre-Flop Strategies Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by JonSherwood
I don't know. I've won many a tournament by being selective with my cards pre-flop, but I've also hit great hands plenty of times when I folded and kicked myself. There's only one way to see how you yourself make more money. Try it both ways. If you call a lot, you're relying more on the luck of the draw, if you're selective pre-flop there's a much higher percentage that you're going to have a better hand than someone else if you do hit.
Oh, and protecting your hand. I highly advise it. When I first started playing I'd just call with good hands, worried they might not hit, and then someone with crap cards beats you. You gotta protect that good hand.
And don't milk it often. Don't place low bets in order make a larger pot. A lot of times someone else will hit something better than you on the turn or river. Be happy when you win the blinds! Blinds after blinds after blinds adds up to a lot, believe me.
Jon
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| Posted by: donvic at March 21, 2005, 6:27 pm | | Topic: Pre-Flop Strategies Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by sports
i tend to raise with decent hands that always have the chance to be good but yet take out the popele who limp in with crap hands i liek to raise with j9 j10 q10 and suited connectors over an 8
sport,
now would that be in later position?
i can see it in early pos. but later??
and what kind of raise.....enough to
drive players out???
donvic
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| Posted by: donvic at March 21, 2005, 6:22 pm | | Topic: Pre-Flop Strategies Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by HTFCacc2005
Normally with a decent hand a raise of 3x or 4x the BB is advised, someone also going all in from an early poistion also worries me. Pre-flop is important but its also advised to watch how they play before the flop with how they play after.
HTFC,
YEA, i agree.
just raising,while putting more $ in the pot
does not seem to scare anyone away.
i want to start upping 3-4 times.
ok, but with what?? do you think a q off suit
is strong enough?? or is it a calling hand?
donvic
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| Posted by: JonSherwood at March 21, 2005, 5:12 am | | Topic: Pre-Flop Strategies Forum: Card Chat |
I don't know. I've won many a tournament by being selective with my cards pre-flop, but I've also hit great hands plenty of times when I folded and kicked myself. There's only one way to see how you yourself make more money. Try it both ways. If you call a lot, you're relying more on the luck of the draw, if you're selective pre-flop there's a much higher percentage that you're going to have a better hand than someone else if you do hit.
Oh, and protecting your hand. I highly advise it. When I first started playing I'd just call with good hands, worried they might not hit, and then someone with crap cards beats you. You gotta protect that good hand.
And don't milk it often. Don't place low bets in order make a larger pot. A lot of times someone else will hit something better than you on the turn or river. Be happy when you win the blinds! Blinds after blinds after blinds adds up to a lot, believe me.
Jon
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| Posted by: peter1811 at March 21, 2005, 4:54 am | | Topic: Pre-Flop Strategies Forum: Card Chat |
Hi ,
i don't know. I am waiting and i decide from game to game.
Sometimes i go and sometimes i let it go....
It depends on the feeling i have. I have some pounds , so a big belly to trust in it....
See you
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| Posted by: sports at March 21, 2005, 4:02 am | | Topic: Pre-Flop Strategies Forum: Card Chat |
i tend to raise with decent hands that always have the chance to be good but yet take out the popele who limp in with crap hands i liek to raise with j9 j10 q10 and suited connectors over an 8
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| Posted by: ThECreWKiLLa at March 15, 2005, 9:31 pm | | Topic: Pre-Flop Strategies Forum: Card Chat |
pre flop is the best time to use deception, i usually raise with random hands so people dont always know what your holding.
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| Posted by: justinroyal at March 15, 2005, 8:52 pm | | Topic: Pre-Flop Strategies Forum: Card Chat |
I AGREE SLOW PLAYING IS NOT THE WAY TO GO UNLESS U HAVE THE TOP END OF THE STICK NO MATTER WHAT I LOST A LOT OF HANDS FOR FUN AND REAL MONEY SLOW PLAYING WHEN U HAVE THE CARDS LIKE A K DON'T ALWAYS RAISE UR HOLE STACK SWITCH UR BETTING STYLE UP DON'T JUST CALL CAUSE LIKE ERICRAIDER SAID IT CAN GET U INTO TROUBLE WIT SOMEONE THAT CALLS WIT LOW CARDS WELL GOOD LUCK ANYHOW I HOPE U TAKE THIS ADVICE FROM SOMEONE WHO LEARNED IT THE HARD WAY
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| Posted by: ericraider1 at March 15, 2005, 8:47 pm | | Topic: Pre-Flop Strategies Forum: Card Chat |
i understand how you like to play supertight, but sometimes when you have a good hand you need to "protect your hand." what i mean by that is you need to bet enough preflop to force other people to fold. the people you want to fold are the ones with something like 3 4 suited or unsuited. if the preflop bet is low or just the bb, they may call and the flop could come A 2 5. now youre pair of aces is crap because they just got lucky and made their straight. with this particular hand, if you had made a healthy raise, this person probably would have folded leaving you with a powerful pair of aces. maybe im just crazy but thats how i see it. if someone goes big over the top of you, then you have to decide if you still think you have the better preflop hand. hope this helps a little.
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| Posted by: wutangtony at March 15, 2005, 4:11 pm | | Topic: Pre-Flop Strategies Forum: Card Chat |
I'm such a tightwad that I call a lot pre-flop. I will never be super-rich, but I will also never be super-poor. I tend to come out a heck of a lot better in the long run than the jackal who raises with crap hands.
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| Posted by: HTFCacc2005 at March 15, 2005, 3:51 pm | | Topic: Pre-Flop Strategies Forum: Card Chat |
Normally with a decent hand a raise of 3x or 4x the BB is advised, someone also going all in from an early poistion also worries me. Pre-flop is important but its also advised to watch how they play before the flop with how they play after.
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| Posted by: stilt at March 7, 2005, 4:36 pm | | Topic: Pre-Flop Strategies Forum: Card Chat |
This is not really news, most of the things from there you learnt the first time you played poker.
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| Posted by: Toby at November 27, 2004, 7:00 pm | | Topic: Pre-Flop Strategies Forum: Card Chat |
Before you start betting like a madman when you get two eights in the pocket, you need to carefully consider all factors involved in solid pre-flop strategy.
The factors to consider are the number of players, how aggressive/passive the players at the table are, your bankroll, your position, and how much risk you are willing to entail.
Number of players: With 10 people in the game, it's much more likely that someone else has a strong hand in the pocket than in a short-handed game. Also, you'll need to be more cautious in larger games, as the chances of someone's pre-flop hand fitting the flop will be much better. More competition means stiffer competition.
How aggressive the players are: Assuming you've been playing with a few people for several hands, and you noticed some jackass is raising every hand pre-flop, you'll want to play tighter. Let the guy win the blinds (big deal) and nail him to the wall when you have a solid hand in the pocket pre-flop.
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