| Posted by: bootleg at September 8, 2006, 12:43 am | | Topic: Bill Chen Poker Formula Forum: Card Chat |
this reminds of the lil cheat cards you see new blackjack players have where it tells them to hit or stay with what the dealer is showing...
its definitely more for a beginner to develop a solid preflop game but stack size, reads and etc are just as important
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| Posted by: mischman at September 7, 2006, 11:59 pm | | Topic: Bill Chen Poker Formula Forum: Card Chat |
I thought it was interesting.
I can see Jamie Gold sitting at a table with a pecnil and paper adding up his score.....is 23 a prime number?
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| Posted by: Jack Daniels at September 7, 2006, 11:57 pm | | Topic: Bill Chen Poker Formula Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by mrsnake3695
What about reads, what about chips stacks, yours and others, what if there was a raise in front of you? What about a riase and reraise in front of you or a raise call? Is this limit or no-limit? If no-limit, how much are the raises?
Too many holes in this kind of thing.
I can't speak to this specific strategy since I didn't write it or post it, but my guess is that it was written as a basic newbie formula regardless of anything else (although the wording does sound like limit holdem). At least that's the way it sounds to me. It is generally protecting them from themselves in many cases and forcing them to play good cards harder.
I don't know, though. Now I'm just typing because I want to and because this is my post and I can type in it if I want to.
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| Posted by: ChuckTs at September 7, 2006, 11:56 pm | | Topic: Bill Chen Poker Formula Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by ChuckTs
errr so raise with K2 is suggested?
Not sure I like this...actually I'm sure I don't like it; why not just stick to a starting hands chart if you're not sure what to do?
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Four or more gap, subtract 5 points
errrr i obviously missed that. sorry bout that...
Even so, why the complicated math? stick to one of the many starting hand charts, and you're good. Eventually, you realize what to play from where and for how much (call or raise)...
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| Posted by: mrsnake3695 at September 7, 2006, 11:51 pm | | Topic: Bill Chen Poker Formula Forum: Card Chat |
What about reads, what about chips stacks, yours and others, what if there was a raise in front of you? What about a riase and reraise in front of you or a raise call? Is this limit or no-limit? If no-limit, how much are the raises?
Too many holes in this kind of thing.
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| Posted by: Jack Daniels at September 7, 2006, 11:50 pm | | Topic: Bill Chen Poker Formula Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by ChuckTs
errr so raise with K2 is suggested?
Not sure I like this...actually I'm sure I don't like it; why not just stick to a starting hands chart if you're not sure what to do?
No actually, it would be a fold from any postion. Even if it is suited.
K = 8
Suited + 2 = 10
4or more gap is -5 = 5 final score.
Chart says fold in any position.
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| Posted by: Jack Daniels at September 7, 2006, 11:45 pm | | Topic: Bill Chen Poker Formula Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by mischman
Four or more gap, subtract 5 points (i.e. A4) Just being nit picky on the example. Should be A6. A4 is a 2 gap.Sample scores (Don't know if these are yours or came with the strategy. While it should be easy enough to figure out based on the rules above, not everyone is a math geek like you and me. A brief calculation to each could help them.
AA = 20 points
98s = 7.5 points
K9s = 6 points
Also, the way I read it, the rules above for calculation are to be followed top down one at a time. Don't jump around or you will screw up your #'s and wind up over aluing a hand.
Interesting theory. I read an article based on a ery similar concept, but it was specifically written for heads-up play. I wonder if that is what this was intended for? Those couple points I noted are the only things I see wrong. Otherwise it is still interesting. Thanks for sharing.
Edit: Also, I noticed that the chart doesn't mention betting. It is s... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: mischman at September 7, 2006, 11:39 pm | | Topic: Bill Chen Poker Formula Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by ChuckTs
errr so raise with K2 is suggested?
Not sure I like this...actually I'm sure I don't like it; why not just stick to a starting hands chart if you're not sure what to do?
One gap, subtract 1 point (i.e. T8)
Two gap, subtract 2 points (i.e. AJ)
Three gap, subtract 4 points (i.e. J7)
Four or more gap, subtract 5 points (i.e. A4)
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| Posted by: ChuckTs at September 7, 2006, 11:34 pm | | Topic: Bill Chen Poker Formula Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by mischman
Middle PositionRaise = Score is 9 or higher
errr so raise with K2 is suggested?
Not sure I like this...actually I'm sure I don't like it; why not just stick to a starting hands chart if you're not sure what to do?
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| Posted by: mischman at September 7, 2006, 11:32 pm | | Topic: Bill Chen Poker Formula Forum: Card Chat |
I found this on another poker website. It determines what hands you should play in what position. Has anyone ever tried it?
The Starting Hand Analysis is based on the Bill Chen Formula below.
The Bill Chen Formula
Determine your highest card and score as follows:
Ace = 10 pointsKing = 8 pointsQueen = 7 pointsJack = 6 points10 through 2 = half of face alue (i.e. 10 = 5, 9 = 4.5)Pairs, multiply score by 2 (i.e. KK = 16), minimum score for a pair is 5 (so pairs of 2 through 4 get a 5 score)Suited cards, add two points to highest card scoreConnectors add 1 point (i.e. KQ)One gap, subtract 1 point (i.e. T8)Two gap, subtract 2 points (i.e. AJ)Three gap, subtract 4 points (i.e. J7)Four or more gap, subtract 5 points (i.e. A4)Sample scores
AA = 20 points
98s = 7.5 points
K9s = 6 points
Early Position Raise = Score is 9 or higherCall = Score is 8 or higherFold = Score is lower than 8Middle Position Raise = Score is 9 or higherCall = Score is 7 or higherFold = Score ... | | Read Entire Entry |
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