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Posted by: Ronaldadio at March 29, 2007, 8:16 am
Topic: Finding the balance Forum: Card Chat

You do not have control on how the cards come out, but u can make a calculated gamble.

Look at it this way. If someone said "I`ll give you $5000 for jumping off a 5 foot wall, or $10,000 for jumping off a 20 foot wall u have a decision to make.

Its all a question of risk. I would take the $5,000, jump off the 5 foot wall, know almost for certain I won`t risk injury. However, if u needed the money bad, u would look at the possible out comes of jumping off the 20 foot wall. If you bend your knees at the exact time u might only hurt yourself from the impact. You could break a leg, etc. You might, however, think it is a risk worth taking because you know that you probably won`t die and if u don`t jump (take the risk/ shortstack) u r done anyway.

The `bad beat` here is you jump off the 5 foot wall, stumble, land on your head and u r a gonna!!! (your Ace high flush on the flop beaten by runner runner 6hearts 9 hearts giving the other guy a straight flush)

You dish out ...
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Posted by: Suited Frenzy at March 29, 2007, 5:01 am
Topic: Finding the balance Forum: Card Chat

The answer is simply.................IT'S POKER MAN. You can't do anything about bad beats or when the cards come or where they fall. Don't get so frustrated man, it's only poker. Now if this is your life & your dinner depends on it then maybe i would consider a different approach to life. It's simple, in a game that you have no control on how the cards come out then why get so upset.....yes some people play dumb sometimes but keep your emotions for something real. Don't use emotion like that on a game. Poker is only a game.
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Posted by: Dashir at March 29, 2007, 4:03 am
Topic: Finding the balance Forum: Card Chat


Quote: Originally Posted by dj11

I am not sure of the shuffling scheme at PS, but many sites use a 'card on demand' scheme which means that had you stayed in, the flop would have been different.

You have anything to back up that claim? Because the only fair deal would not only be dertimined before any cards are dealt, but the number of seats wouldn't be part of the equation, certainly not the cards of the players left in the hand... just random numbers determine the entire deck before the deal. If any site did anything else it would be totally bogus.
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Posted by: Ronaldadio at March 26, 2007, 8:31 pm
Topic: Finding the balance Forum: Card Chat


Quote: Originally Posted by MrSticker

Really? Explain please.

Yes. please explain...?

I knew it...RRRRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG GGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDD
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Posted by: MrSticker at March 26, 2007, 8:13 pm
Topic: Finding the balance Forum: Card Chat


Quote: Originally Posted by dj11

I am not sure of the shuffling scheme at PS, but many sites use a 'card on demand' scheme which means that had you stayed in, the flop would have been different.

Really? Explain please.
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Posted by: dj11 at March 26, 2007, 8:07 pm
Topic: Finding the balance Forum: Card Chat

Your rewrite was good, made it a bit easier to read.

From what I read you did well with poor cards. Streaks happens. When bad streaks happens I take solice in the fact that a good streak will happen.

You may be able to get position if you save your hand histories to your disk.

If you had bupcus, and folded a lot, well, that shows good decisions.
Dwelling on hands that might have been is futile. I am not sure of the shuffling scheme at PS, but many sites use a 'card on demand' scheme which means that had you stayed in, the flop would have been different.
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Posted by: dj11 at March 26, 2007, 7:33 pm
Topic: Finding the balance Forum: Card Chat

But the punctuation was good!
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Posted by: thwizzofoz at March 26, 2007, 7:12 pm
Topic: Finding the balance Forum: Card Chat

Much better. Thanks JD!
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Posted by: Jack Daniels at March 26, 2007, 6:02 am
Topic: Finding the balance Forum: Card Chat


Quote: Originally Posted by joeeagles

The one thing that every holdem player, particularly in his early playing days, will hear is that he/she plays way too many hands. It is true that many players make this mistake and end up fattening their opponents bankroll. Recently, and I mean the past 3 days, I've been questioning my game and started wondering if maybe I fold too often before the flop. The reason for this is that the last 3 tourneys that I've played I've found myself always behind, with a below average stack, the last time being last night. The 3 times in question were the same type of tourney, the ery popular 180 seat $4.00+ 40c on PS, which happens to be my favourite tourney since I've done ery well in it having made the money and final table several times, although best placement ever was 2nd (yeah I know, I need to work on my shorthanded game, thx for telling me).

Now lets get this straight: I am not, by any means, an expert. Only thing is now I'm wondering if I'm aw...
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Posted by: Jack Daniels at March 26, 2007, 5:54 am
Topic: Finding the balance Forum: Card Chat


Quote: Originally Posted by MrSticker

Hey JD. Are you able to insert the breaks for him? There's probably a few folks who would like to try reading it in a better format.

Yeah, I could. But that would require me actually reading and deciphering that blob. Sigh. Guess I can take a shot at it as the last thing before I go to bed. For sake of the whole thread, I'm going to leave his first post in tact (hopefully as a learning experience for others).
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Posted by: MrSticker at March 26, 2007, 5:47 am
Topic: Finding the balance Forum: Card Chat


Quote: Originally Posted by Jack Daniels

Oh, don't misunderstand. We love to talk about poker. The point is that, poker or not, it is unrealistic to believe that anyone is going to sit there sifting through several dozens of lines of edge to edge text. Break it up a little and you'll get more poker comment and less criticism (unless of course unless the criticism is about poker).

Hey JD. Are you able to insert the breaks for him? There's probably a few folks who would like to try reading it in a better format.
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Posted by: Jack Daniels at March 26, 2007, 5:32 am
Topic: Finding the balance Forum: Card Chat

While I'm not even going to try reading that mess, on the positive side I did notice lots of capital letters and punctuation marks. So really the only deficiency seems to be the enter key.


Quote: Originally Posted by joeeagles

Ok, got it. I thought you guys liked to talk about poker. Guess I was wrong. Thx for the lecture on how to write.

Oh, don't misunderstand. We love to talk about poker. The point is that, poker or not, it is unrealistic to believe that anyone is going to sit there sifting through several dozens of lines of edge to edge text. Break it up a little and you'll get more poker comment and less criticism (unless of course unless the criticism is about poker).
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Posted by: combuboom at March 26, 2007, 12:44 am
Topic: Finding the balance Forum: Card Chat

Holy crap, that might be the biggest unseparated block of text I've ever seen
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Posted by: joeeagles at March 26, 2007, 12:16 am
Topic: Finding the balance Forum: Card Chat

Ok, got it. I thought you guys liked to talk about poker. Guess I was wrong. Thx for the lecture on how to write.
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Posted by: ChuckTs at March 25, 2007, 6:39 pm
Topic: Finding the balance Forum: Card Chat


Quote: Originally Posted by thwizzofoz

It isn't that it is too long. But, books have chapters and chapters have paragraphs. It allows the brain to focus on the point in the individual sentences. Although it can be done, that huge paragraph is difficult to keep the point on track.

It reminds me of the old bus driver joke. Where you are told "You are the bus driver", then given lots of information, and asked later, what the bus driver's name is. In all the details it is forgotten that YOU are the bus driver.

Hint: First paragraph, identify the main problem and ask your question (if it is a question). Second paragraph and others, give supporting/defining details. Last paragraph quick summation.

This!
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Posted by: thwizzofoz at March 25, 2007, 6:27 pm
Topic: Finding the balance Forum: Card Chat

It isn't that it is too long. But, books have chapters and chapters have paragraphs. It allows the brain to focus on the point in the individual sentences. Although it can be done, that huge paragraph is difficult to keep the point on track.

It reminds me of the old bus driver joke. Where you are told "You are the bus driver", then given lots of information, and asked later, what the bus driver's name is. In all the details it is forgotten that YOU are the bus driver.

Hint: First paragraph, identify the main problem and ask your question (if it is a question). Second paragraph and others, give supporting/defining details. Last paragraph quick summation.
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Posted by: Ronaldadio at March 25, 2007, 6:24 pm
Topic: Finding the balance Forum: Card Chat

If, like me, u r relativly new to poker, play less hands. I think Doyle Brunson suggests that newish players should not panic if u see only about 10% of the flops.

I sometimes feel like you, but the problem I have is that because I`m less experienced I know I need to be ahead most of the time when I decide I want to see a flop. I`ve played on stars and have only seen 9% of the flops in a 180+ tourny.

I know pro`s and other good players see a lot more flops (well some of them do) but those same pros will lose a lot of chips sometimes - remember, watching TV, in the main u see the highlights.

My target is to keep in about middle position in MTT up until we get to the money. Then open up a bit. Unless the money difference is massive, I never want to get to less than 10 bb, so I push when I get to this level
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Posted by: joeeagles at March 25, 2007, 5:50 pm
Topic: Finding the balance Forum: Card Chat

Sorry guys, I know its too long but I was just trying my best to explain it clearly. I appreciate your opinion Armadillo, it's probably the only way out even if it can get ugly.
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Posted by: pokerrqueenn at March 25, 2007, 2:20 pm
Topic: Finding the balance Forum: Card Chat

i can't even read it i tried like 5 times but then my brain starts hurting.
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Posted by: MrSticker at March 25, 2007, 2:16 pm
Topic: Finding the balance Forum: Card Chat

Every so often,
do this twice:
V V V V V V

(Joe, was your post copied and pasted here?)
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Posted by: ArmadilloTrim at March 25, 2007, 6:23 am
Topic: Finding the balance Forum: Card Chat

Well, I've been in that position in the past, in fact as recently as this morning! The fact of the matter is, table dynamics are a big part of it too. Obviously you know to play a super loose table a bit tighter, and ice ersa. So lets say your in your favorite tourney, in halfway, and your below average. Bad run of cards, your only little bits of profit were from one or two mediocre hands, and a few steals. You can see that the big blinds are going to be a problem for you if you dont start grabing a few pots, but at the same time your pretty sure that your cards are never going to improve. To make it worse, people are playing what you typicaly deem to be bad hands, ace rag off, king rag off, etc, yet they are raking with em! Well, the way I see it, its so mental now, thats the biggest thing you have to worry about. So many times i remember being in that situation and getting impatient with everyone playing shit and hitting, that I try it, and of course then the crazies wind up with big pockets when I do...
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Posted by: reglardave at March 25, 2007, 5:39 am
Topic: Finding the balance Forum: Card Chat

What Chuck said.

Dude, take a deep breath. I could play a 180 SNG in the time it'd take me to type alla dat, let alone read and absorb it.
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Posted by: ChuckTs at March 25, 2007, 5:08 am
Topic: Finding the balance Forum: Card Chat

Wow...if you want anyone to read that and give opinions, you're gonna have to separate paragraphs man. That truly hurts my eyes.
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Posted by: joeeagles at March 25, 2007, 4:36 am
Topic: Finding the balance Forum: Card Chat

The one thing that every holdem player, particularly in his early playing days, will hear is that he/she plays way too many hands. It is true that many players make this mistake and end up fattening their opponents bankroll. Recently, and I mean the past 3 days, I've been questioning my game and started wondering if maybe I fold too often before the flop. The reason for this is that the last 3 tourneys that I've played I've found myself always behind, with a below average stack, the last time being last night. The 3 times in question were the same type of tourney, the ery popular 180 seat $4.00+ 40c on PS, which happens to be my favourite tourney since I've done ery well in it having made the money and final table several times, although best placement ever was 2nd (yeah I know, I need to work on my shorthanded game, thx for telling me). Now lets get this straight: I am not, by any means, an expert. Only thing is now I'm wondering if I'm awful. Being behind at the break, yet again for 3rd night in a row...
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