| Posted by: alexanderwoo1 at April 3, 2007, 3:27 pm | | Topic: HOW 2 SPOT A BLUFF Forum: Card Chat |
Sometimes bluffs come in overbetting the pot or small bets usually. Also pay attention to everything they do such as time for move, and what they've done before the hand.
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| Posted by: tiltboy at March 30, 2007, 2:51 pm | | Topic: HOW 2 SPOT A BLUFF Forum: Card Chat |
Theres no hard and fast rule of spotting bluffs. This is down to intuition you develop with experience. You have to take risks make mistakes and learn from them to develop your intuition.
Starting out i would advise playing a solid game analysing the table and attempting to spot bluffs in hands your not involved in.
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| Posted by: Welly at March 25, 2007, 1:38 am | | Topic: HOW 2 SPOT A BLUFF Forum: Card Chat |
It is always worth keeping a close eye on possible draws they could be chasing. You'd be amazed how many players in NL will chase a draw to the river (or semi-bluff to the river), then bet relatively large when they actually miss.
They contiously, or otherwise, know this is the only way they can win the pot.
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| Posted by: Lana_Faith at March 24, 2007, 8:40 pm | | Topic: HOW 2 SPOT A BLUFF Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by Prolaznik
I'll try to explain instead of Lana...
If you fold - they are bluffing
If you call - they have the nuts, or at least hand better than yours
'zackly.
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| Posted by: jmiller218 at March 24, 2007, 6:29 pm | | Topic: HOW 2 SPOT A BLUFF Forum: Card Chat |
Most of the time when playing online i find that people when the board pairs or there is a straight of flush there. Also since there are so many beginners out there really people will play any two cards and will bet with any two cards. You just have to pay attention to the people at your table.
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| Posted by: thwizzofoz at March 24, 2007, 6:19 pm | | Topic: HOW 2 SPOT A BLUFF Forum: Card Chat |
Basically it comes down to paying attention to all the details and nuances of the table you are at. Every player bluffs, but, you don't know the read until they are caught. The only way to catch them is to see their cards, or outbid them into a fold. Either way, make sure you have the hand to back up yours, or you lose your aluable table repuation, which helps you when you pull off the successful bluff.
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| Posted by: Prolaznik at March 24, 2007, 4:21 pm | | Topic: HOW 2 SPOT A BLUFF Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by ginNjuice
?????????? please explain this
I'll try to explain instead of Lana...
If you fold - they are bluffing
If you call - they have the nuts, or at least hand better than yours
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| Posted by: Lana_Faith at March 23, 2007, 11:23 pm | | Topic: HOW 2 SPOT A BLUFF Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by Suited Frenzy
LOL, i think Lana is being sarcastic. Are you Lana???
Absolutely not. I'm being completely dead-on serious. And to those nay-sayers who like to tell me that these two iewpoints are mutually exclusive and therefore impossible, I say this: sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast.
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| Posted by: philthy at March 23, 2007, 8:12 pm | | Topic: HOW 2 SPOT A BLUFF Forum: Card Chat |
watch betting patterns. Look for odd bets.
If i can afford it (like early on in a tournament) I'll call a loose player down just to see his/her hand.
Bets like 11-12x the bb early in a tournament is a bit odd.
Look for people who do huge bets PF 9/10x, then suddenly raise the mininum with a hand. If you're lucky, they'll get callers and you'll see they had AA. So, then you can get an idea how they [possibly] play there big hands.
I usually dont test these 'bluffs' preflop, but I like to after the flop. I think its a bit easier to determine if they have a hand or not.
EX: its heads up and there is 200 in the pot. Opponent bets 20. Come over the top. 9/10 when this happend, they folded.
If they re-raise or push all in, then you either have to lay it down or consider if you have the best hand or not.
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| Posted by: HartAttack3 at March 14, 2007, 6:19 pm | | Topic: HOW 2 SPOT A BLUFF Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by ginNjuice
?????????? please explain this
This is just a guess, but my experience tells me that when you think someone is bluffing they never are, and when you give them credit for aces they flip over 2-3 o/s and show the huge bluff to laugh about for the next hour. Just a guess but thats how life seems to go online lol
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| Posted by: Suited Frenzy at March 11, 2007, 10:03 pm | | Topic: HOW 2 SPOT A BLUFF Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by ginNjuice
?????????? please explain this
LOL, i think Lana is being sarcastic. Are you Lana???
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| Posted by: ginNjuice at March 11, 2007, 9:54 pm | | Topic: HOW 2 SPOT A BLUFF Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by Lana_Faith
Lana's Online Poker Bluffing Guide for Idiots
Rule #1: No one bluffs in online poker.
Rule #2: Everyone bluffs in online poker.
?????????? please explain this
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| Posted by: aliengenius at March 11, 2007, 8:54 pm | | Topic: HOW 2 SPOT A BLUFF Forum: Card Chat |
It's all about betting patterns. Look for weird bets: minimum bets, massive overbets, etc. combine that with what you know about the player, combined further with the texture of the flop.
Sometimes one persons mini bet is tptk, sometimes it's a weak continuation bet. Sometimes a massive overbet is someone scared of the two flush cards on the flop trying to protect their hand, sometimes it's ATo that missed and just wants you to fold. Sometimes you can punish a good players continuation bet without any cards at all.... sometimes...
Figuring all this out is part of what makes poker interesting and challenging, and why the answer to questions like "how do you know if it's a bluff?" is always "it depends".
ps. in my experience the mini raise is always a monster (on-line) IF it is a raise of a legitimate bet (2/3 to 3/4 or pot bet). If it's a mini raise of a mini bet or some other smaller bet it's often times a weak attempt "re-steal" without committ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: dan_ives at March 8, 2007, 6:20 pm | | Topic: HOW 2 SPOT A BLUFF Forum: Card Chat |
ye i do ..as i play more i tend to notice a minum rerasie is 2 a bluff is it just me or wt ???
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| Posted by: coolkennylee at March 8, 2007, 4:10 am | | Topic: HOW 2 SPOT A BLUFF Forum: Card Chat |
Pay attention to your opponents at ALL TIMES. Every time he clicks is information. Also, Test him one period. What i like to do is play with my opponent a little bit and learn his style (opponent raised, re-raise your opponent if u think he's bluffing, see if he is a strong player and calls). Mix up your strageties such as betting amounts to confuse your opponent. Just try to put pressure on your opponent.
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| Posted by: Lana_Faith at March 6, 2007, 10:32 pm | | Topic: HOW 2 SPOT A BLUFF Forum: Card Chat |
Lana's Online Poker Bluffing Guide for Idiots
Rule #1: No one bluffs in online poker.
Rule #2: Everyone bluffs in online poker.
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| Posted by: Suited Frenzy at March 6, 2007, 10:13 pm | | Topic: HOW 2 SPOT A BLUFF Forum: Card Chat |
Well spotting bluffs while in online play is just like spotting bluffs in live play being that you have to have either the gift of reading people or having the experience to do so. You said you've only been playing for 6 months so that's not nearly enough time to be good @ anything much less reading people over the internet which is really tough to do. So my advice is to just take your time & practice practice practice & you'll get good @ everything that you set your mind to. Trust me, reading people online takes A LOT of knowledge. Knowledge in anything = experience. GL always on the tbls.
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| Posted by: RochesterRalph at March 6, 2007, 9:21 pm | | Topic: HOW 2 SPOT A BLUFF Forum: Card Chat |
If you have poket Aces and two come on the flop, and the other guy raises ya...he's bluffin. Seriously if you have the nuts no one can bluff you..so if you play tight and bet strong hands and the nuts only, then most times any bets into you or over the top, they are bluffin and not ery well.
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| Posted by: dan_ives at March 6, 2007, 7:57 pm | | Topic: HOW 2 SPOT A BLUFF Forum: Card Chat |
ive been playing poker for about 6 months roughly and becoming a good player i still think i can be read fairly easily by experienced players..bt thats for the future.. i just wana no if theirs any tips in stone cold bluffs or anything related to spoting a bluff talking about online poker mainly
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