| Posted by: Ronaldadio at July 9, 2007, 1:42 pm | | Topic: LAG questions Forum: Card Chat |
Playing TAG does not mean you won`t build up a decent stack. I play a TAG game and About 30% of the time I make the $$$. Early in MTT, small stakes, ppl will push with a wide range of hands, so waiting for AQ+/ JJ+ is worth it.Has anyone mentioned chip stack? If you have a healthy chip stack by playing TAG you can then loosen up against the shorter stacks, obviously if they seem to be playing TAG also.
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| Posted by: stormswa at July 9, 2007, 9:19 am | | Topic: LAG questions Forum: Card Chat |
not trying to pick on you but some of these are really really way off.
Quote: Originally Posted by bob_tiger
lol sry im not ery organized...but basically i will put this into steps for ya...this is how i would play in a tourney
1- 1st hour start of by playing lag and looking at a lot of flops if yr table lets u....a lot of times u might hit str8 and even a flush with small suited connectors which will get u a nice big pot.
agreed
2- i honestly hate how a lot of ppl try to just grind it to make it in to the money....i think if u can win one big one it will make up for the other ones so that means sometimes u have to take risks if u want to be a looose player like for example daniel negreanu i think he is a loose player but he knows when to fold
agreed
3-if u want a nice chip stack and want to ft the tourney u have to be aggresive during first hour and get a nice stack to take the tourney down and if u just sit tight and have about a ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: stormswa at July 9, 2007, 8:39 am | | Topic: LAG questions Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by bob_tiger
im gonna have to dissagree with #4 when u said yr aggresion level shouldnt change....i personally think if u see that yr opponent is on a str8 draw or some kind of a draw u want to bet strong and be more aggresive to push him/her out and not let him/her hit the str8 or w/e that person is chasing..but thats my opinion and it usually works for me
your giving incorrect odds all the way down so it shouldnt matter. what is LAG? loose aggressive right? so you are being aggressive anyway so how are you going to change that?
are you going to push all in to avoid someone chasing a flush? of course not you want them to chase that flush. Its a 33.3% chance of hitting so if you bet 3/4 pot guess what the odds are incorrect but he might still call which is what we want. Why the hell would you want to chase a draw out is beyond me?
Like you said if you know he is on a draw then the hand is sooo simple to play. You'r betting patterns... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: bob_tiger at July 9, 2007, 8:35 am | | Topic: LAG questions Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by stormswa
hope this helps.
im gonna have to dissagree with #4 when u said yr aggresion level shouldnt change....i personally think if u see that yr opponent is on a str8 draw or some kind of a draw u want to bet strong and be more aggresive to push him/her out and not let him/her hit the str8 or w/e that person is chasing..but thats my opinion and it usually works for me
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| Posted by: stormswa at July 9, 2007, 8:28 am | | Topic: LAG questions Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by philthy
Im really trying to make the transition from TAG to LAG. Especially while playing SNGs and MTTs. I have a few questions:
1. What range of hands do should I raising with? Re-raising with? And in what position?
in order to raise you have to either be in position on origional raiser or be in a position where it looks like you have monster like the blinds. Try not to do this with total garbage but more like hands that could hit big.
2. I know position plays a big part. I tend to raise a lot in late position and in mid position if no one has entered, but what about in EP? I dont want to become to predictable.
even LAG players do not play that many hands in EP because you really do need position on the players in order to outplay them postflop. Play tight from EP.
3. During the early rounds, when blinds are small and if my table allows it, should I try limping into a lot of pots and hoping to flop something decent? | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: philthy at July 9, 2007, 8:26 am | | Topic: LAG questions Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by shinedown.45
I think she may mean she wants to expand from TAG to LAG, not to completely change her playing style but to implement LAG play into her strategy.
Im a guy.
The girl in my avatar is 'Annette_15'.
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| Posted by: shinedown.45 at July 9, 2007, 8:21 am | | Topic: LAG questions Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by Ronaldadio
Before I try to answer the question I have one question for you - Why do you want to change from TAG to LAG???
I think she may mean she wants to expand from TAG to LAG, not to completely change her playing style but to implement LAG play into her strategy.
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| Posted by: bob_tiger at July 9, 2007, 8:21 am | | Topic: LAG questions Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by philthy
Not to be an ass or anything, but WHAT?
lol sry im not ery organized...but basically i will put this into steps for ya...this is how i would play in a tourney
1- 1st hour start of by playing lag and looking at a lot of flops if yr table lets u....a lot of times u might hit str8 and even a flush with small suited connectors which will get u a nice big pot.
2- i honestly hate how a lot of ppl try to just grind it to make it in to the money....i think if u can win one big one it will make up for the other ones so that means sometimes u have to take risks if u want to be a looose player like for example daniel negreanu i think he is a loose player but he knows when to fold
3-if u want a nice chip stack and want to ft the tourney u have to be aggresive during first hour and get a nice stack to take the tourney down and if u just sit tight and have about a medium stack then at some point ur going to have to bingo and u c... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: philthy at July 9, 2007, 8:17 am | | Topic: LAG questions Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by Ronaldadio
Before I try to answer the question I have one question for you - Why do you want to change from TAG to LAG???
I dont want to change my style completely. I want to have a better understanding of it. Especially for when I play MTTs. I can make it deep playing TAG, but not deep enough. And if I do manage to make it really deep, Im usually short stack. I have a hard time mixing up my game sometimes and I really think If I have an understanding of how LAG play works, I might be able to do better.
So, all in all, I just want to get a better understanding of a LAG playing style and hopefully, mixed with a TAG style, I might be able to do better/place better in MTTs, MTSNGs, etc.
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| Posted by: stormswa at July 9, 2007, 8:15 am | | Topic: LAG questions Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by philthy
Not to be an ass or anything, but WHAT?
I got through two sentenses, then I had to go get my son so he could explain to me what half the abriviations meant. After taking 10 minutes to read the 1st two sentences and seeing how incorrect they are I gave up.
going to go through his post now to try to figure it out, one second let me quote it. I will also get to your origional post in second.
Quote: Originally Posted by bob_tiger
well i will give u my opinion on this....yup ur right position is what it all about but its not only yr position its who ur playing against
ok let me stop you right here, now you are talking about 2 different things in same sentence. At 1st you are right it is all about position and if you are in position that means they are out of position, get it?
...like for example if ur a tight table u wanna be the boss of the table and rather take down bunch of small pots than pl... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: philthy at July 9, 2007, 8:07 am | | Topic: LAG questions Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by bob_tiger
well i will give u my opinion on this....yup ur right position is what it all about but its not only yr position its who ur playing against...like for example if ur a tight table u wanna be the boss of the table and rather take down bunch of small pots than play bingo and take a chance of losing yr stack. but then if u have bunch of lose players thats when u might not wanna raise before that player to act unless u have a strong hand and if ur trying to steal blidns against loose players it doesnt work ery well. also u might wanna change up the raising and the best ur making the betting patterns to confuse other players. also on yr 3rd one....i would say yes definitely like lets say u have 45h and blinds r low and u limp in...and flop comes 2c 3s 6d just an example...and if ur up against a tight player and lets say he/she is trying to slow play u with AA and a lot of times tight players will push all in thinking they r safe not expecting u to have tha... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Ronaldadio at July 9, 2007, 8:06 am | | Topic: LAG questions Forum: Card Chat |
Before I try to answer the question I have one question for you - Why do you want to change from TAG to LAG???
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| Posted by: bob_tiger at July 9, 2007, 7:49 am | | Topic: LAG questions Forum: Card Chat |
well i will give u my opinion on this....yup ur right position is what it all about but its not only yr position its who ur playing against...like for example if ur a tight table u wanna be the boss of the table and rather take down bunch of small pots than play bingo and take a chance of losing yr stack. but then if u have bunch of lose players thats when u might not wanna raise before that player to act unless u have a strong hand and if ur trying to steal blidns against loose players it doesnt work ery well. also u might wanna change up the raising and the best ur making the betting patterns to confuse other players. also on yr 3rd one....i would say yes definitely like lets say u have 45h and blinds r low and u limp in...and flop comes 2c 3s 6d just an example...and if ur up against a tight player and lets say he/she is trying to slow play u with AA and a lot of times tight players will push all in thinking they r safe not expecting u to have that 4 5 and since there is no flush draw they r not 2 wo... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: philthy at July 9, 2007, 7:36 am | | Topic: LAG questions Forum: Card Chat |
Im really trying to make the transition from TAG to LAG. Especially while playing SNGs and MTTs. I have a few questions:
1. What range of hands do should I raising with? Re-raising with? And in what position?
2. I know position plays a big part. I tend to raise a lot in late position and in mid position if no one has entered, but what about in EP? I dont want to become to predictable.
3. During the early rounds, when blinds are small and if my table allows it, should I try limping into a lot of pots and hoping to flop something decent?
4. Should I be more aggressive PF than on the flop?
5. If I raise PF, how often should I C-bet?
6. I understand aggressive play, but what exactly is the meaning of 'loose'?
7. What should I be raising PF if Im holding a less than great hand? Im thinking 2.5x - 3x the BB, so if I get re-raised I can fold if I need to. On the flop, how much should I C-bet if I hit it? If I miss it?
8. On Bodog, I usually play the $3+.30 - $10+$1 S... | | Read Entire Entry |
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