| Posted by: Blazing_Saddler at September 7, 2007, 10:52 am | | Topic: No wonder i haven't made a profit Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by ythelongface
well cesco, cash games as you know are about as different from sngs as you can get. when playing a cash game i like to a couple things. be rested, eat before i play, and if i get tired walk away for a while. there is almost always in a cash game to go once more around the table. but i recommend you should listen to your inner oice and not stay at the table longer than you know you should. no matter how good you are, if you sit there long enough you will lose whether because of your lack of focus or because the cards just dont favor you. hope this is helpful.
That isn't true at all, not saying that you wont get times when the cards don't favour you, we have all been there.
However, If you play cash games, it is just one big haul, each different session has no bearing, The cards don't know how long you have been sitting there, they wont fall any differently because you have sat there for just ten minutes, or three days. The only t... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: ythelongface at September 5, 2007, 5:22 pm | | Topic: No wonder i haven't made a profit Forum: Card Chat |
well cesco, cash games as you know are about as different from sngs as you can get. when playing a cash game i like to a couple things. be rested, eat before i play, and if i get tired walk away for a while. there is almost always in a cash game to go once more around the table. but i recommend you should listen to your inner oice and not stay at the table longer than you know you should. no matter how good you are, if you sit there long enough you will lose whether because of your lack of focus or because the cards just dont favor you. hope this is helpful.
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| Posted by: ythelongface at September 5, 2007, 5:18 pm | | Topic: No wonder i haven't made a profit Forum: Card Chat |
starfall makes a good point. even at a low or microgame its good to have a large enough bankroll to sustain the highs and low of the game. not unlike blackjack, you dont wanna have just enough to get by. give yourself a chance with a good sized bankroll.
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| Posted by: cesco at September 5, 2007, 2:31 pm | | Topic: No wonder i haven't made a profit Forum: Card Chat |
Hi i have been playing poker for a wile but i have been playing mainly SNGs tourney, i do fearly well, placing in the money most of the time but the pay for the ammount of time spent isn't enough so i started to play Cash games but i started loosing e almost crippled my bank roll. Can anyone plz help me? should i stick to SNGs? thanks a lot
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| Posted by: jeffred1111 at September 4, 2007, 5:58 pm | | Topic: No wonder i haven't made a profit Forum: Card Chat |
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This is a mistake no one has pointed out. Win/loss limits are not the best, most profitable way to decide when to leave a table. Why leave when you are winning? While there is something to be said for "locking up a win" you've built an image at that table as a winner and conditions are profitable there for you. If something changes and you are no longer profiting at the table THEN leave. A couple bad beats can also get me to leave while I've still got a good win.
I agree a buy-in of $50 doesn't leave much wiggle room. $150-200 is much better. And play in a comfort zone at low stakes. Follow the 5% and/or 20x buy-in rule or whatever and work your way up. You'll be better for it.
goldog
This is semi-true at low limits since:
a) Players change so much that you do not develop an image. Plus, people play their cards and don't always notice that you're winning, or don't change their way of playing (giving you more respect) to reflect this.<... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Goldog at September 3, 2007, 3:14 pm | | Topic: No wonder i haven't made a profit Forum: Card Chat |
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I would always set limits for myself while at the tables(i.e. get up to x amount and quit for the time being).
This is a mistake no one has pointed out. Win/loss limits are not the best, most profitable way to decide when to leave a table. Why leave when you are winning? While there is something to be said for "locking up a win" you've built an image at that table as a winner and conditions are profitable there for you. If something changes and you are no longer profiting at the table THEN leave. A couple bad beats can also get me to leave while I've still got a good win.
I agree a buy-in of $50 doesn't leave much wiggle room. $150-200 is much better. And play in a comfort zone at low stakes. Follow the 5% and/or 20x buy-in rule or whatever and work your way up. You'll be better for it.
goldog
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| Posted by: pigpen02 at September 1, 2007, 2:07 am | | Topic: No wonder i haven't made a profit Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by dde21
it is ary important but i alway play out of my bankrole and i do end going broke but then some time i can cash out a grand or so but i do go broke more and i double so i dont no im just pised cause i did it today now i'm back to 6.50 sit go mand i need to stay away form cash games
You don't have to dip into your bankroll for punctuation.
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| Posted by: jack37 at August 31, 2007, 3:53 am | | Topic: No wonder i haven't made a profit Forum: Card Chat |
I have pretty good success at playing sit n gos and mtt. i started playing cash games and was getting killed at first. I have since switched to limit cash games and have had better success. so for me i need to stay at limit cash games until i build a better bank roll.
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| Posted by: royalburrito24 at August 28, 2007, 2:40 pm | | Topic: No wonder i haven't made a profit Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by dde21
it is ary important but i alway play out of my bankrole and i do end going broke but then some time i can cash out a grand or so but i do go broke more and i double so i dont no im just pised cause i did it today now i'm back to 6.50 sit go mand i need to stay away form cash games
Cash games are easiest way to make money, but also the easiest way to lose money, that was my problem when i started out...
good thing you want to take a break from cash games, it has helped me
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| Posted by: dde21 at August 28, 2007, 2:34 pm | | Topic: No wonder i haven't made a profit Forum: Card Chat |
it is ary important but i alway play out of my bankrole and i do end going broke but then some time i can cash out a grand or so but i do go broke more and i double so i dont no im just pised cause i did it today now i'm back to 6.50 sit go mand i need to stay away form cash games
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| Posted by: starfall at August 28, 2007, 1:50 pm | | Topic: No wonder i haven't made a profit Forum: Card Chat |
It's better to start with figures that are relatively high, and which can cope with a long run of bad luck (say a month, rather than just a day or 2). If you start with too small a bankroll, you can just bust out.
Then again, if you're perfectly able and willing to redeposit, then you can start with a smaller amount, because it's not the total limit of your available funds.
One other thing to bear in mind, though, is that most of the poker sites deposit bonuses are a % of the amount you deposit, so it may be worth looking at how much you need to deposit to get the maximum return (and additionally how much you need to play in what period of time to clear the bonus, to make sure you don't have a bonus that expires before you earn it)
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| Posted by: bw07507 at August 15, 2007, 5:53 pm | | Topic: No wonder i haven't made a profit Forum: Card Chat |
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play cash games at full buyin with 30+ buyins, SnGs 50+ buyins
I think these numbers are a bit high, I have played with 20-25 buyins for SnGs (at the 5 and 10 dollar limit) and never had any problems
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| Posted by: vanquish at August 15, 2007, 3:58 pm | | Topic: No wonder i haven't made a profit Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by -PotCommited88-
okay guys, i feel like an idiot now, learning all this BR management stuff right now. I would always set limits for myself while at the tables(i.e. get up to x amount and quit for the time being). However, i am convinced that i am playing at too high a tables now. I used to buy in for 50 and play the pot limit .50/1 or the .25/.50 NLE tables. I have risen to 260 before only to start playing 1/2 tables. I would catch a bad run of cards and my bankroll would diminish way too much. I realize now that this probably isn't the best BR management. My question to you is, I am looking to buy back in on Full Tilt Poker. How much should i buy back in for and what tables and sit and go's should i begin at(from what i have read the 2.25 are easy money).
Lets just say i was to minimum buy in for 50. Where do i go from there?
With $50, you're going to have trouble using proper BR management. You want to have 20x the max buy-in for the ring game ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: -PotCommited88- at August 15, 2007, 3:53 pm | | Topic: No wonder i haven't made a profit Forum: Card Chat |
okay guys, i feel like an idiot now, learning all this BR management stuff right now. I would always set limits for myself while at the tables(i.e. get up to x amount and quit for the time being). However, i am convinced that i am playing at too high a tables now. I used to buy in for 50 and play the pot limit .50/1 or the .25/.50 NLE tables. I have risen to 260 before only to start playing 1/2 tables. I would catch a bad run of cards and my bankroll would diminish way too much. I realize now that this probably isn't the best BR management. My question to you is, I am looking to buy back in on Full Tilt Poker. How much should i buy back in for and what tables and sit and go's should i begin at(from what i have read the 2.25 are easy money).
Lets just say i was to minimum buy in for 50. Where do i go from there?
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