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Posted by: Steve565 at September 27, 2006, 4:31 am
Topic: WSEX goes no-rake Forum: Bonus Whores
<< Can someone please explain to me if the big leap frem 6 bucks at 2/4 to 15 at 3/6 is true >>

I don't think so.

I played there some, in 2/4 got close to $6 per hour/table. In 3/6, got a little over $9 per hour/table. In 5/10 got a little higher than the 3/6.

This was during the day, but the games were very very tight.

I usually play NL, I wish there were more NL games there. In the 200Nl games, I got about $6.50 per hr/table. But there's rarely a game, so I wind up not playing there much.
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Posted by: Kliton Bozgo at September 24, 2006, 8:56 am
Topic: WSEX goes no-rake Forum: Bonus Whores
Hi!

Can someone please explain to me if the big leap frem 6 bucks at 2/4 to 15 at 3/6 is true since this is the rb structure everybody is talking about:

$1/$2 Limit .05 per hand dealt (2.5 x BB/100)
$2/$4 Limit .10 per hand dealt (2.5 x BB/100)
$3/$6 Limit .18 per hand dealt (3 x BB/100)

Thanks for your answer in advance.
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Posted by: redrocks at September 23, 2006, 5:21 pm
Topic: WSEX goes no-rake Forum: Bonus Whores
whiterat wrote: neerav wrote: how do u count that thing 2.5/100 bb

can u explain their bonus in 1x - 15x terms , where does it stand in x's



His results are about the same as mine. It translates into ~$3.00 per hour per table at full ring limit $1/2. ~ $6 per hour at $2/4 and~ $15 per hour at $3/6. ~ = approximate

$6/hr for 2/4 is not bad, but $15/hr for 3/6 is better than most bonuses out there. Might have to check it out.
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Posted by: Riverfish at September 23, 2006, 3:05 pm
Topic: WSEX goes no-rake Forum: Bonus Whores
Anyone have an update on traffic and player type (fish or rock) at this site, thanks
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Posted by: Kliton Bozgo at July 11, 2006, 5:47 pm
Topic: WSEX goes no-rake Forum: Bonus Whores
Whiterat

Where didi you get the huge difference between 2/4 and 3/6.

tnx
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Posted by: soulmusic at July 11, 2006, 3:30 pm
Topic: WSEX goes no-rake Forum: Bonus Whores
neerav wrote: $3 per hour looks like 9x


9x what?
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Posted by: neerav at July 11, 2006, 2:46 pm
Topic: WSEX goes no-rake Forum: Bonus Whores
$3 per hour looks like 9x
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Posted by: whiterat at July 11, 2006, 12:44 pm
Topic: WSEX goes no-rake Forum: Bonus Whores
neerav wrote: how do u count that thing 2.5/100 bb

can u explain their bonus in 1x - 15x terms , where does it stand in x's



His results are about the same as mine. It translates into ~$3.00 per hour per table at full ring limit $1/2. ~ $6 per hour at $2/4 and~ $15 per hour at $3/6. ~ = approximate
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Posted by: neerav at July 11, 2006, 11:45 am
Topic: WSEX goes no-rake Forum: Bonus Whores
how do u count that thing 2.5/100 bb

can u explain their bonus in 1x - 15x terms , where does it stand in x's

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Posted by: AC_Jeff at July 11, 2006, 11:07 am
Topic: WSEX goes no-rake Forum: Bonus Whores
spngbb wrote: I have been playing here for the past few weeks and just FYI here are some rates I am getting my rake back at:

$1/$2 Limit .05 per hand dealt (2.5 x BB/100)
$2/$4 Limit .10 per hand dealt (2.5 x BB/100)
$3/$6 Limit .18 per hand dealt (3 x BB/100)

I have played from 3-5000 hands on each level. Should be enough to get a good estimate.

In my opinion this site should be the only one played by limit players, barring you a low limit player chasing a 10x bonus.

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Posted by: spngbb at July 10, 2006, 5:56 am
Topic: WSEX goes no-rake Forum: Bonus Whores
I have been playing here for the past few weeks and just FYI here are some rates I am getting my rake back at:

$1/$2 Limit .05 per hand dealt (2.5 x BB/100)
$2/$4 Limit .10 per hand dealt (2.5 x BB/100)
$3/$6 Limit .18 per hand dealt (3 x BB/100)

I have played from 3-5000 hands on each level. Should be enough to get a good estimate.

In my opinion this site should be the only one played by limit players, barring you a low limit player chasing a 10x bonus.

Later
Curtis
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Posted by: krashman at July 4, 2006, 2:56 pm
Topic: WSEX goes no-rake Forum: Bonus Whores
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Posted by: EZ at July 4, 2006, 10:29 am
Topic: WSEX goes no-rake Forum: Bonus Whores
rsigley wrote: their "update" doesn't fix the huge problem that has been going on for weeks with people sitting out and not paying blinds but still being able to play (they rejoin after blinds pass but it doesn't charge them blinds to sit in)

i would recommend not playing there til it's fixed

wow, that is crazy. every time of just sometimes it works. i could play a risk free game with rake back. until they fix it, i think i will try it...lol
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Posted by: Kliton Bozgo at July 4, 2006, 9:54 am
Topic: WSEX goes no-rake Forum: Bonus Whores
Now they support moneybookers for deposit and withdrawl.
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Posted by: rsigley at July 3, 2006, 11:47 pm
Topic: WSEX goes no-rake Forum: Bonus Whores
their "update" doesn't fix the huge problem that has been going on for weeks with people sitting out and not paying blinds but still being able to play (they rejoin after blinds pass but it doesn't charge them blinds to sit in)

i would recommend not playing there til it's fixed
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Posted by: neerav at July 2, 2006, 3:12 am
Topic: WSEX goes no-rake Forum: Bonus Whores
i registered and depsoited money to play with

but bad luck couldnt open any table , it says connecting to the table in lobby and then nothing happens

tried several times but no use

so i did withdrawl and they took away 5 usd for withdrawl saying u havent wager enough

looks like they running in huge losses on neteller fees 2 take it away from me

i fired email to cs that i want to play but coz i couldnt open table i m taking funds back to neteller . they replied it can b virus or firewall problem and wsex cant do anything and they hv to charge neteller fees



i hate them
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Posted by: Steve565 at July 1, 2006, 7:06 am
Topic: WSEX goes no-rake Forum: Bonus Whores
Got an e-mail from WPEX, they say they're coming out with a new version of the software. This should help, what they have now is pretty weak. But the traffic has definitely picked up.


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Posted by: biggler at June 2, 2006, 3:19 am
Topic: WSEX goes no-rake Forum: Bonus Whores
cant speak for the holdem tables but the omaha hilo tables definitely have their fair share of very loose players when they are running.
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Posted by: peternorth at June 1, 2006, 11:37 pm
Topic: WSEX goes no-rake Forum: Bonus Whores
well goddamn...who do you think no-rake is going to appeal to?
most of the good tight players will flock there, its just like a bonus to them.
the fish, they will watch party poker and other commercials and go to the site and play
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Posted by: guardianx at June 1, 2006, 11:15 pm
Topic: WSEX goes no-rake Forum: Bonus Whores
TheChosenOne wrote: guardianx wrote: dam i cant beat this place either their player is super smart or i'm jus doing something wrong. i got aces crack 3 out of 4 times heads up pre flop.......

i'm down 40 bucks after rake back .. this is sad. let me cry .
They have been known to have *cough* "super smart players" *cough* at their tables. Maybe they went no-rake after these "ssp's" were upgraded in their poker skills.


mhmmm i concure that is why i'm not going to play there anymore ...
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Posted by: TheChosenOne at May 30, 2006, 10:27 am
Topic: WSEX goes no-rake Forum: Bonus Whores
guardianx wrote: dam i cant beat this place either their player is super smart or i'm jus doing something wrong. i got aces crack 3 out of 4 times heads up pre flop.......

i'm down 40 bucks after rake back .. this is sad. let me cry .
They have been known to have *cough* "super smart players" *cough* at their tables. Maybe they went no-rake after these "ssp's" were upgraded in their poker skills.
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Posted by: Sandwich at May 30, 2006, 7:04 am
Topic: WSEX goes no-rake Forum: Bonus Whores
Very interesting
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Posted by: guardianx at May 29, 2006, 9:38 pm
Topic: WSEX goes no-rake Forum: Bonus Whores
dam i cant beat this place either their player is super smart or i'm jus doing something wrong. i got aces crack 3 out of 4 times heads up pre flop.......

i'm down 40 bucks after rake back .. this is sad. let me cry .
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Posted by: Steve565 at May 25, 2006, 4:53 am
Topic: WSEX goes no-rake Forum: Bonus Whores
<< I don't believe there is a signup bonus or bonus code, but I believe they do have an RAF/TAF program. Can anyone confirm/deny? >>

There is not a signup code needed, even though there's a box for it when you signup.

I don't believe there are any RAF type programs.
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Posted by: Nicodemus at May 24, 2006, 2:12 pm
Topic: WSEX goes no-rake Forum: Bonus Whores
I don't believe there is a signup bonus or bonus code, but I believe they do have an RAF/TAF program. Can anyone confirm/deny?
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Posted by: rusrious at May 24, 2006, 4:23 am
Topic: WSEX goes no-rake Forum: Bonus Whores
Well, Im going to check it out, is there a bonus code before i sign up?
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Posted by: Steve565 at May 22, 2006, 6:24 pm
Topic: WSEX goes no-rake Forum: Bonus Whores
<< What's the quality of the games like? Full and short? Seems like a lot more limit than NL going on and at the higher levels - which is where 100% rakeback is most beneficial over bonuses. Are the players good players using the site for rakeback or lots of shitty ones from the sports side? >>

My observation from playing there a few days, I'd say it's on par with other sites. The full limit games seemed a little tight, but I played during the day and I think the day games are tighter in general, anyway.

For me, it's at least another reasonable site to play it.
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Posted by: HeelHo at May 22, 2006, 3:40 pm
Topic: WSEX goes no-rake Forum: Bonus Whores
topdawg2003 wrote: hogua wrote: The beauty of a poker site that is part of a large sports book is that the book already has an ample supply of well funded bettors woh may, or may not, know how to play poker very well.

Since they are by definition "sports bettors", as a group they are not pro level poker players. That's good. They fact they may be well rolled (betting four or five figures a game) means they tend to play at limits higher than other of their skilll would play at non sportsbook linked sites.

The best kind of fish are the ones that are well funded and play at limits that are way over their skill set.

yup... look at the networs attached to big sports books... bodog, VIPsports is ridiculously loose (very few people though), Pacific poker (attached to big casino), and before they were bought by paradise, every one of the sites in sportingbet group had the loosest FL tables i'd ever seen in my life... i was playing a full ring $5/ $10 table...
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Posted by: grimgrin at May 22, 2006, 2:42 pm
Topic: WSEX goes no-rake Forum: Bonus Whores
What's the quality of the games like? Full and short? Seems like a lot more limit than NL going on and at the higher levels - which is where 100% rakeback is most beneficial over bonuses. Are the players good players using the site for rakeback or lots of shitty ones from the sports side?
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Posted by: Steve565 at May 22, 2006, 2:02 pm
Topic: WSEX goes no-rake Forum: Bonus Whores
I know everyone questions the 'no rake' model - I can't see how it works longer term myself.

However, I think they've had a pretty good uptick in traffic lately. And their rake counter seems to be working now.

There's been 3 or 4 5/10 limit games going, and at least a few 3/6 and 2/4, during the day.
I think they're already past what PokerRoom gets for number of games, at the 3/6 and 5/10 games.
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Posted by: Management at May 22, 2006, 12:37 pm
Topic: WSEX goes no-rake Forum: Bonus Whores
NWCougar wrote: hawkeen wrote: Watch the tables...2+2ers are arriving in droves. Rocks and TAGs are the only ones playing at this site.

The idiots on this forum and other forums who wish to get excited about a rake free site are f@cking idiots. Think about it..rake free..who does that attract? Fish? No you f@ckin clueless morons. Why you might ask? Because fish do not care about rake they just want to gamble therefore a rake free site will surely by market forces become a rock garden = not as profitable.

Move on..nothing here...next...

cheers
Hawk

This has to be one of the most ignorant and retarded posts that I've ever read. Either you're an affiliate afraid to lose money or you suck at poker and can only beat party tables. I'll just assume you suck at poker, had a losing session at wpexand can't admit it was you're bad play.

Edited to add: Most 2+2ers suck, there is no reason and has never been a reason to be afraid of 2...
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Posted by: NWCougar at May 21, 2006, 9:01 pm
Topic: WSEX goes no-rake Forum: Bonus Whores
hawkeen wrote: Watch the tables...2+2ers are arriving in droves. Rocks and TAGs are the only ones playing at this site.

The idiots on this forum and other forums who wish to get excited about a rake free site are f@cking idiots. Think about it..rake free..who does that attract? Fish? No you f@ckin clueless morons. Why you might ask? Because fish do not care about rake they just want to gamble therefore a rake free site will surely by market forces become a rock garden = not as profitable.

Move on..nothing here...next...

cheers
Hawk

This has to be one of the most ignorant and retarded posts that I've ever read. Either you're an affiliate afraid to lose money or you suck at poker and can only beat party tables. I'll just assume you suck at poker, had a losing session at wpexand can't admit it was you're bad play.

Edited to add: Most 2+2ers suck, there is no reason and has never been a reason to be afraid of 2+2ers.
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Posted by: EZ at May 21, 2006, 1:58 am
Topic: WSEX goes no-rake Forum: Bonus Whores
some of the Nl games are as loose as party. if you play short handed at 100NL or higher it is a great deal.

it's better than rake free though. on a full ring you get 10% of total rake from table if it's full. and i never with 10% of hands. i've broken even at 3% won many a time. so i'm guessing i get 140- 160% rakeback when i do play there.

i play 25 and 50NL so it's about the same as clearing bonuses. and not too much talbes to choose from..... ( no 6 max)
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Posted by: jojothekid at May 20, 2006, 5:28 pm
Topic: WSEX goes no-rake Forum: Bonus Whores
Wow who knew someone trying to offer "no rake" would be widely hated by many lol.

How dare they.

This seems like a great spot for MICRO NL players and MICRO bankrolls to me. So people are bashing it perhaps because it doesn't help them for the levels they play and many I believe bashing it are just losing players. If a place wants to give you all your rake back and pay you weekly it certainly should be worth a look IMHO.
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Posted by: Nicodemus at May 19, 2006, 4:26 pm
Topic: WSEX goes no-rake Forum: Bonus Whores
I know there is no longer a signup bonus at WPEX, but I believe they do have an RAF/TAF bonus, can someone confirm/deny this, as there is no info on the website itself.
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Posted by: Quasimodo63 at May 19, 2006, 9:21 am
Topic: WSEX goes no-rake Forum: Bonus Whores
article on world poker exchange in card player this month. Expect more traffic
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Posted by: topdawg2003 at April 5, 2006, 12:04 pm
Topic: WSEX goes no-rake Forum: Bonus Whores
hogua wrote: The beauty of a poker site that is part of a large sports book is that the book already has an ample supply of well funded bettors woh may, or may not, know how to play poker very well.

Since they are by definition "sports bettors", as a group they are not pro level poker players. That's good. They fact they may be well rolled (betting four or five figures a game) means they tend to play at limits higher than other of their skilll would play at non sportsbook linked sites.

The best kind of fish are the ones that are well funded and play at limits that are way over their skill set.

yup... look at the networs attached to big sports books... bodog, VIPsports is ridiculously loose (very few people though), Pacific poker (attached to big casino), and before they were bought by paradise, every one of the sites in sportingbet group had the loosest FL tables i'd ever seen in my life... i was playing a full ring $5/ $10 table there with a 45% saw the f...
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Posted by: hogua at April 5, 2006, 10:23 am
Topic: WSEX goes no-rake Forum: Bonus Whores
The beauty of a poker site that is part of a large sports book is that the book already has an ample supply of well funded bettors woh may, or may not, know how to play poker very well.

Since they are by definition "sports bettors", as a group they are not pro level poker players. That's good. They fact they may be well rolled (betting four or five figures a game) means they tend to play at limits higher than other of their skilll would play at non sportsbook linked sites.

The best kind of fish are the ones that are well funded and play at limits that are way over their skill set.
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Posted by: PaisanDom at April 5, 2006, 10:19 am
Topic: WSEX goes no-rake Forum: Bonus Whores
hawkeen wrote: Watch the tables...2+2ers are arriving in droves. Rocks and TAGs are the only ones playing at this site.


So what do you thing attracts fish?

The loosest sites I know of (besides Party) is Paradise, I think they are loose players there because they have a sportsbook. It's not bonuses that attract fish, because Absolute has more bonus than anyone and it's all rocks there. I also see more ads on TV for Absolute than any other site. If WSEX gets enough of their loose sportsbook players they could have a good site going.
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Posted by: hawkeen at April 5, 2006, 9:42 am
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Watch the tables...2+2ers are arriving in droves. Rocks and TAGs are the only ones playing at this site.

The idiots on this forum and other forums who wish to get excited about a rake free site are f@cking idiots. Think about it..rake free..who does that attract? Fish? No you f@ckin clueless morons. Why you might ask? Because fish do not care about rake they just want to gamble therefore a rake free site will surely by market forces become a rock garden = not as profitable.

Move on..nothing here...next...

cheers
Hawk
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