| Posted by: itsallaboutthemusic at October 7, 2006, 11:38 pm | | Topic: Will Hill bans US players......... Forum: Bonus Whores | | just to update my situation, i received my cashout yesterday. for some reason, it took about 10 days, easily the longest in my 2 year history of online poker play. however, they did pay eventually. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Alphaunit1 at October 5, 2006, 3:47 pm | | Topic: Will Hill bans US players......... Forum: Bonus Whores | | They were going to manually cash me out when they had closed my account so I could get my loose change - within 48 hours. I ended up cashing out 5 days later and left the change there, just wasn't worth waiting anymore. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: itsallaboutthemusic at October 5, 2006, 3:35 pm | | Topic: Will Hill bans US players......... Forum: Bonus Whores | wrote an email, got a response quick saying "we will process your cashout manually", whatever that means.
that was 24+ hours ago. still nothing. i suppose i shouldnt be concerned due to their size etc. but i have NEVER had this problem on ANY site i have played at, let alone one that CLOSED MY ACCOUNT. this, to me, is TOTALLY unacceptable. is there anything BW can do about this? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Mikke_ at October 3, 2006, 6:21 pm | | Topic: Will Hill bans US players......... Forum: Bonus Whores | They are a very old and respectable UK bookmaker, so I can't see them not paying once the dust settles
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| Posted by: PokerBonusWhore at October 3, 2006, 6:12 pm | | Topic: Will Hill bans US players......... Forum: Bonus Whores | Mikke_ wrote: bedofnails wrote: itsallaboutthemusic wrote: i have yet to receive my cashout from will hill. should i be concerned? i cashed out the day will hill banned american players...
yes.
I'm sure you will get it eventually - WH won't risk any bad publicity.
I am waiting a cashout ($350) since 9/27. I emailed support and they said they had teams working on everything and I should get within 24 hours. That was 30 hours ago. Tomorrow is a week. I am not overly concerned but this is a bit long..........
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| Posted by: Mikke_ at October 3, 2006, 6:01 pm | | Topic: Will Hill bans US players......... Forum: Bonus Whores | bedofnails wrote: itsallaboutthemusic wrote: i have yet to receive my cashout from will hill. should i be concerned? i cashed out the day will hill banned american players...
yes.
I'm sure you will get it eventually - WH won't risk any bad publicity.
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| Posted by: bedofnails at October 3, 2006, 5:51 pm | | Topic: Will Hill bans US players......... Forum: Bonus Whores | itsallaboutthemusic wrote: i have yet to receive my cashout from will hill. should i be concerned? i cashed out the day will hill banned american players...
yes.
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| Posted by: Lorenza at October 3, 2006, 5:47 pm | | Topic: Will Hill bans US players......... Forum: Bonus Whores | itsallaboutthemusic wrote: i have yet to receive my cashout from will hill. should i be concerned? i cashed out the day will hill banned american players...
I got my money 8 hours after they closed (neteller) | | Static Link |
| Posted by: pulper_80 at September 29, 2006, 2:08 pm | | Topic: Will Hill bans US players......... Forum: Bonus Whores | kaymon wrote: tom218 wrote: At least they made it easy to get your money back instantly, unlike some other unnamed Crypto low-lifes that are sending checks when they damn well feel like it. Thanks for that anyway.
Willhill and that "other crypto" had two different cashiers. Willhill has ALWAYS been web based, while the "other crypto" has been built into the client.
Don't think for a second that if Willhill was the same setup as the "other crypto" that the result would have been different. The only reason you can get your money out of Willhill is because they can close down your account to the client and you can still get to the cashier via the web. It was no "making it easy" for anyone. It is what they have done forever. If the "other crypto" had a similar setup like Willhill, you could have gotten your money back there too.
I don't like what the "other crypto" did either, but Willhill is not a s... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: kaymon at September 29, 2006, 12:55 am | | Topic: Will Hill bans US players......... Forum: Bonus Whores | tom218 wrote: At least they made it easy to get your money back instantly, unlike some other unnamed Crypto low-lifes that are sending checks when they damn well feel like it. Thanks for that anyway.
Willhill and that "other crypto" had two different cashiers. Willhill has ALWAYS been web based, while the "other crypto" has been built into the client.
Don't think for a second that if Willhill was the same setup as the "other crypto" that the result would have been different. The only reason you can get your money out of Willhill is because they can close down your account to the client and you can still get to the cashier via the web. It was no "making it easy" for anyone. It is what they have done forever. If the "other crypto" had a similar setup like Willhill, you could have gotten your money back there too.
I don't like what the "other crypto" did either, but Willhill is not a saint either. On that ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: redrocks at September 28, 2006, 5:21 pm | | Topic: Will Hill bans US players......... Forum: Bonus Whores | tom218 wrote: At least they made it easy to get your money back instantly, unlike some other unnamed Crypto low-lifes that are sending checks when they damn well feel like it. Thanks for that anyway.
Yeah, I withdrew last night and the money was in neteller this afternoon- quicker than normal. Bye WH, for some reason I don't think you'll be the last place to ban me | | Static Link |
| Posted by: tom218 at September 28, 2006, 4:45 pm | | Topic: Will Hill bans US players......... Forum: Bonus Whores | At least they made it easy to get your money back instantly, unlike some other unnamed Crypto low-lifes that are sending checks when they damn well feel like it. Thanks for that anyway.
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| Posted by: Pokeraddict at September 28, 2006, 10:14 am | | Topic: Will Hill bans US players......... Forum: Bonus Whores | Alphaunit1 wrote: Didn't realize that, PA. That it might have been new, but I guess not.
Glad to help, all.
I did not know it either until I went to edit the page to include the US player ban. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Alphaunit1 at September 28, 2006, 6:20 am | | Topic: Will Hill bans US players......... Forum: Bonus Whores | | The real kicker for me was when I reviewed my account and realized that I had been playing there so long, that next month would have pushed me over the minimum level necessary to get cash comped at the casino - probably worth around ~$30. Same exact thing with TB/UKB... I was so close to meeting their minimum kickback levels, and now they are both gone too. Oh well. Good timing on their parts. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: ksot at September 28, 2006, 4:21 am | | Topic: Will Hill bans US players......... Forum: Bonus Whores | Not only was it the last hourly bonus available to me, it was the last monthly casino bonus I had been doing for the last year. Now my only options are Interpoker which I prefer to play on the poker side, and Super Vegas Casino which I've never won at once.
Fuck! | | Static Link |
| Posted by: leavenfish at September 27, 2006, 7:57 pm | | Topic: Will Hill bans US players......... Forum: Bonus Whores | biggler wrote: Woulda been nice if WillHill gave players a little heads up of what was coming so any pending bonuses could be cleared.
Fuck it, blacklist 'em.
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| Posted by: WhooFleuryScores at September 27, 2006, 3:31 pm | | Topic: Will Hill bans US players......... Forum: Bonus Whores | Nice. I get shut out after my first month of being an official member (I got to clear their awesome $5 per hour bonus once for $25 total).
Don't I feel good....... | | Static Link |
| Posted by: PokerBonusWhore at September 27, 2006, 2:45 pm | | Topic: Will Hill bans US players......... Forum: Bonus Whores | This is unreal. I just created an account with them 4 days ago. At least I got the bonus done, but I was looking forward to hitting this monthly.
From the Will Hill website:
Pending clarification of the scope and enforceability of the Wire Act and applicability of state and federal laws as regards online gambling by US citizens, William Hill have taken steps to cease accepting casino and poker business from clients with a US address or US issued credit cards.
Such steps are already in place to prevent Internet sports betting by US domiciled individuals.
Existing US clients with funds in their account may only log into their account to withdraw all funds. This can be achieved by following this link - http://www.willhill.com
Once logged into the account simply choose My Account and then Make A Withdrawal.
Appears we can login to request a withdrawal and not have to contact via phone..
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| Posted by: PaisanDom at September 27, 2006, 2:34 pm | | Topic: Will Hill bans US players......... Forum: Bonus Whores | mbk734 wrote: I need to find a Republican to bitch slap!!
Not all Republicans are bad
Quote:
Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman John Warner, a Virginia Republican, raised a "strong objection" to attaching any unrelated legislation to a pending defense bill, which has been viewed by supporters of the Internet gambling bill as a prime vehicle for it.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060926/wr_nm/leisure_congress_gambling_dc
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| Posted by: Pokeraddict at September 27, 2006, 1:17 pm | | Topic: Will Hill bans US players......... Forum: Bonus Whores | I don't think they allowed German players anyway. When I added no US to the review it already said Will Hill did not accept German players.
And yes, great post Alpha. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Gonzo787 at September 27, 2006, 12:18 pm | | Topic: Will Hill bans US players......... Forum: Bonus Whores | Alphaunit1 wrote: I'll repost the mini-analysis I wrote in the SunPoker thread in the Discussion forum:
Quote: Keep in mind that Littlewoods, UKBetting, TotalBet, AND William Hill were all Euro-facing companies, working on establishing strong ties into the UK/European market. Allowing US players was more of an afterthought for them, and they never actively marketed to this audience.
- Littlewoods had not allowed US players up until this year. They probably only started accepting them to gain a small amount of incremental income.
- UKBetting/Totalbet: Had allowed US players for their poker client only -- again, more an afterthought "here you go" kind of deal. Everybody who downloaded the casino client knew they didn't want US players there (you couldn't download the software if you said you were from the US), but never tried to stop US-based accounts from playing there.
- Will Hill: Never actively marketed to this country. They are a MASSIVE... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Alphaunit1 at September 27, 2006, 12:11 pm | | Topic: Will Hill bans US players......... Forum: Bonus Whores | I'll repost the mini-analysis I wrote in the SunPoker thread in the Discussion forum:
Quote: Keep in mind that Littlewoods, UKBetting, TotalBet, AND William Hill were all Euro-facing companies, working on establishing strong ties into the UK/European market. Allowing US players was more of an afterthought for them, and they never actively marketed to this audience.
- Littlewoods had not allowed US players up until this year. They probably only started accepting them to gain a small amount of incremental income.
- UKBetting/Totalbet: Had allowed US players for their poker client only -- again, more an afterthought "here you go" kind of deal. Everybody who downloaded the casino client knew they didn't want US players there (you couldn't download the software if you said you were from the US), but never tried to stop US-based accounts from playing there.
- Will Hill: Never actively marketed to this country. They are a MASSIVE bookie in the UK (Europe ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Pokeraddict at September 27, 2006, 12:05 pm | | Topic: Will Hill bans US players......... Forum: Bonus Whores | I think this goes along the line of Ritz Club closing up. Will Hill is also a large B&M operation. They probably feel they have way too much to lose to keep the very small part of their revenue stream open by accepting US players.
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| Posted by: AJ at September 27, 2006, 11:21 am | | Topic: Will Hill bans US players......... Forum: Bonus Whores | Why worry about offending bonus whores? If you want to ban people that are -$EV, and you don't want others like them, just ban them for whoring.
I don't think that's their reason. I think it's the US govt. God bless the Republican congress. :/ | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Alphaunit1 at September 27, 2006, 11:16 am | | Topic: Will Hill bans US players......... Forum: Bonus Whores | HeelHo wrote: WE should have a damn real players association, and start a drive, ban US players now, and we never ever go back. WOuld really make some of these places shit their pants.
Really? I don't think so.
Keep in mind these guys are only reacting to potentially serious legal pressure from the US. Although William Hill blocks US-based sportsbets to comply with the Wire Act, they still see how zealous some prosecuters are being in the US. Will Hill is a massive operation that goes beyond their website, so they are really being smart about trying to avoid having their executives thrown into US jails because somebody in our country decides they "broke a law" here. It's a damn shame that we lost these guys (with the loss of 4 Cryptos to US citizens this month, that's a little over $300 in potential bonuses gone), but we can only blame OUR government for this.
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| Posted by: Poker Pirate at September 27, 2006, 10:09 am | | Topic: Will Hill bans US players......... Forum: Bonus Whores | This sucks so much. Still waiting on my email, but damn. I was gonna use money from there for the party bonus I finally got. The cryptos had just gotten so much better and WH is the only one I stuck witht he whole time. Man Americans are so hated, but I'll have you know world only 2/3s of americans are assholes. Damn the gov't
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| Posted by: LVHerbie at September 27, 2006, 9:58 am | | Topic: Will Hill bans US players......... Forum: Bonus Whores | | I'm wondering if these actually has much to do with the US Governments stance or not... I'm sure 99% of the US players at William Hill where just bonus whores anyhow, so I'm sure it isn't to hard to take such a stand when you effectively have an excuse to get rid of a huge block -EV players without having to say you're banning them because of bonus whoring... | | Static Link |
| Posted by: ajk123 at September 27, 2006, 9:23 am | | Topic: Will Hill bans US players......... Forum: Bonus Whores | HeelHo wrote: WE should have a damn real players association, and start a drive, ban US players now, and we never ever go back. WOuld really make some of these places shit their pants.
Who are you kidding? If they gave a nice bonus to come back, you'd go back. We're whores. | | Static Link |
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