| Posted by: TylerSalzman at October 23, 2006, 10:35 am | | Topic: It appears you are from xxxx - leave BW.com -- WTF?? Forum: Bonus Whores | Danieljeans wrote: jackaho wrote: So the politicians have even banned the ability to collect and use information?
Welcome to fucking Russia! Now we cannot even go to a website if our state doesnt approve?
Yet I ( or any person under 18 ) can go online and get a picture of 2 chicks cum swapping and thats no reason for any Gov official to try to block that.
I can learn how to make a bomb, grow a bunch of hash or watch a chick get anal from 101 men and a goat, but playing Poker is forbidden.
The United States Gov deserves a cum shot right in the eye!
What happened in Russia... speaking of russia, it's snowing pretty hard here right now. It would be a good day to stay inside and play some poke...... I mean knit some socks. That shit's illegal here
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| Posted by: redrocks at October 20, 2006, 5:19 pm | | Topic: It appears you are from xxxx - leave BW.com -- WTF?? Forum: Bonus Whores | SnakeNdGrass wrote: pluntzky wrote: I have no idea why people try to argue that poker aint gambling, if it wasnt, then sportbetting wouldnt be gambling either, because its a game of skill, and neither would videopoker, blackjack etc etc. Not mutch left then. Or how about selling odds on a pokerhand on a odds-exchange?
Gambling with an edge can be done on various types of gambling if you are skilled, but its still gambling.
And even if u use BR management u cant really know that you are a winning player before u have made the gamble to try it out.
So basically every casino is gambling everyday on whether they will make money or not.
Everything you do is gambling. If I take a job tommorow, I am gambling that a better job will not come up. If I walk my dog, then I am taking the gamble that a semi wont plow me into the road. etc. etc.
Poker is gambling, along with everything else that you do.....next the stock market, eating ice cream, porn,... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: HeelHo at October 17, 2006, 5:38 am | | Topic: It appears you are from xxxx - leave BW.com -- WTF?? Forum: Bonus Whores | rbnut wrote: AWESOME !! LMAO
Danieljeans wrote: jackaho wrote: So the politicians have even banned the ability to collect and use information?
Welcome to fucking Russia! Now we cannot even go to a website if our state doesnt approve?
Yet I ( or any person under 18 ) can go online and get a picture of 2 chicks cum swapping and thats no reason for any Gov official to try to block that.
I can learn how to make a bomb, grow a bunch of hash or watch a chick get anal from 101 men and a goat, but playing Poker is forbidden.
The United States Gov deserves a cum shot right in the eye!
I could see the money shot coming to GWB muttering, "gotta stay the course, stay the course, oh the gooey course!"
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| Posted by: rbnut at October 15, 2006, 6:40 am | | Topic: It appears you are from xxxx - leave BW.com -- WTF?? Forum: Bonus Whores | AWESOME !! LMAO
Danieljeans wrote: jackaho wrote: So the politicians have even banned the ability to collect and use information?
Welcome to fucking Russia! Now we cannot even go to a website if our state doesnt approve?
Yet I ( or any person under 18 ) can go online and get a picture of 2 chicks cum swapping and thats no reason for any Gov official to try to block that.
I can learn how to make a bomb, grow a bunch of hash or watch a chick get anal from 101 men and a goat, but playing Poker is forbidden.
The United States Gov deserves a cum shot right in the eye!
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| Posted by: HeelHo at October 15, 2006, 4:13 am | | Topic: It appears you are from xxxx - leave BW.com -- WTF?? Forum: Bonus Whores | it just told me I was in Washington state, and thats the wrong coast. Guess its not an exact science.
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| Posted by: mike_m235 at October 14, 2006, 1:50 pm | | Topic: It appears you are from xxxx - leave BW.com -- WTF?? Forum: Bonus Whores | Marcus Tranter wrote: pluntzky wrote: I have no idea why people try to argue that poker aint gambling, if it wasnt, then sportbetting wouldnt be gambling either, because its a game of skill, and neither would videopoker, blackjack etc etc. Not mutch left then. Or how about selling odds on a pokerhand on a odds-exchange?
Gambling with an edge can be done on various types of gambling if you are skilled, but its still gambling.
And even if u use BR management u cant really know that you are a winning player before u have made the gamble to try it out.
Yes, In my opinion Poker is gambling because the outcome of any single bet is not certain for that specific result.
I agree that it could be defined as gambling with an edge, but it is still gambling. Anyone who says it is not gambling is just fooling themselves.
GL, Marcus.
I always tell people, starting with my wife, that I'm gambling. I'm gambling on the fact that most people in the w... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: jek187 at October 13, 2006, 3:28 pm | | Topic: It appears you are from xxxx - leave BW.com -- WTF?? Forum: Bonus Whores | GamblinFool wrote: Operate in the U.S. ... Wait, you mean BW isn't owned by a foreigner and run from offshore servers?? I am shocked!
I don't believe we've ever said BW's servers were offshore. BW's ownership situation is different from what it was, but it was indeed owned by some Non-American for at least awhile in the past. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: SnakeNdGrass at October 13, 2006, 3:25 pm | | Topic: It appears you are from xxxx - leave BW.com -- WTF?? Forum: Bonus Whores | pluntzky wrote: I have no idea why people try to argue that poker aint gambling, if it wasnt, then sportbetting wouldnt be gambling either, because its a game of skill, and neither would videopoker, blackjack etc etc. Not mutch left then. Or how about selling odds on a pokerhand on a odds-exchange?
Gambling with an edge can be done on various types of gambling if you are skilled, but its still gambling.
And even if u use BR management u cant really know that you are a winning player before u have made the gamble to try it out.
So basically every casino is gambling everyday on whether they will make money or not.
Everything you do is gambling. If I take a job tommorow, I am gambling that a better job will not come up. If I walk my dog, then I am taking the gamble that a semi wont plow me into the road. etc. etc.
Poker is gambling, along with everything else that you do.....next the stock market, eating ice cream, porn, and walking my dog will be ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Steve565 at October 13, 2006, 9:48 am | | Topic: It appears you are from xxxx - leave BW.com -- WTF?? Forum: Bonus Whores | Wow, this is really disturbing.
I don't fault BW for doing what's in their best interest. But this is a sad day when the government is effectively causing censorship on information that it's citizens can read.
I thought we were down on other country's that did this shit?
This is a total mess, but I believe the day will come when US company's will offer on-line poker, the US can collect taxes on the profits, and we can have some sensible reglations to prohibit minors from playing.
I just hope I'm not so old when it happens that I can still click the mouse. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Marcus Tranter at October 13, 2006, 5:59 am | | Topic: It appears you are from xxxx - leave BW.com -- WTF?? Forum: Bonus Whores | pluntzky wrote: I have no idea why people try to argue that poker aint gambling, if it wasnt, then sportbetting wouldnt be gambling either, because its a game of skill, and neither would videopoker, blackjack etc etc. Not mutch left then. Or how about selling odds on a pokerhand on a odds-exchange?
Gambling with an edge can be done on various types of gambling if you are skilled, but its still gambling.
And even if u use BR management u cant really know that you are a winning player before u have made the gamble to try it out.
Yes, In my opinion Poker is gambling because the outcome of any single bet is not certain for that specific result.
I agree that it could be defined as gambling with an edge, but it is still gambling. Anyone who says it is not gambling is just fooling themselves.
GL, Marcus. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: pluntzky at October 13, 2006, 3:18 am | | Topic: It appears you are from xxxx - leave BW.com -- WTF?? Forum: Bonus Whores | I have no idea why people try to argue that poker aint gambling, if it wasnt, then sportbetting wouldnt be gambling either, because its a game of skill, and neither would videopoker, blackjack etc etc. Not mutch left then. Or how about selling odds on a pokerhand on a odds-exchange?
Gambling with an edge can be done on various types of gambling if you are skilled, but its still gambling.
And even if u use BR management u cant really know that you are a winning player before u have made the gamble to try it out. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Timprov at October 12, 2006, 8:54 pm | | Topic: It appears you are from xxxx - leave BW.com -- WTF?? Forum: Bonus Whores | jek187 wrote: (Have you ever tried to convince a stubborn relative or friend that you're not gambling?)
First, admit to yourself that you are gambling. Then admit it to them. Starting out trying to claim poker isn't gambling immediately throws everything else you say into a well of distrust.
It's much easier to explain that you're gambling with an edge, and not against the house, if you don't try to pretend you're not gambling. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Danieljeans at October 12, 2006, 8:46 pm | | Topic: It appears you are from xxxx - leave BW.com -- WTF?? Forum: Bonus Whores | jackaho wrote: So the politicians have even banned the ability to collect and use information?
Welcome to fucking Russia! Now we cannot even go to a website if our state doesnt approve?
Yet I ( or any person under 18 ) can go online and get a picture of 2 chicks cum swapping and thats no reason for any Gov official to try to block that.
I can learn how to make a bomb, grow a bunch of hash or watch a chick get anal from 101 men and a goat, but playing Poker is forbidden.
The United States Gov deserves a cum shot right in the eye!
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| Posted by: Mikke_ at October 12, 2006, 8:00 pm | | Topic: It appears you are from xxxx - leave BW.com -- WTF?? Forum: Bonus Whores | jek187 wrote: Lorenza wrote: One short question, does BW think that poker is gambling?
Poker is a game of skill and many players can easily proof it in court.
Gambling would be, if I risk my money and go broke.
With professional Bankroll management you will never have your whole bankroll at risk.
Poker is a game of knowledge of mathematic probabilities, and skill succeeds over cluelessness over time.
I make a living and I pay taxes on my winnings.
Did BW take advice from Party Pokers Laywers ?
The result of one hand of poker is luck. The result of one hundred thousand is skill. I would certainly say poker is a game of skill. However, convincing the feds of that stance would take more resources than we have, and the chances of success still aren't that great. (Have you ever tried to convince a stubborn relative or friend that you're not gambling?)
We do not use Party's lawyers.
It's funny how hard it... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: jek187 at October 12, 2006, 7:03 pm | | Topic: It appears you are from xxxx - leave BW.com -- WTF?? Forum: Bonus Whores | Lorenza wrote: One short question, does BW think that poker is gambling?
Poker is a game of skill and many players can easily proof it in court.
Gambling would be, if I risk my money and go broke.
With professional Bankroll management you will never have your whole bankroll at risk.
Poker is a game of knowledge of mathematic probabilities, and skill succeeds over cluelessness over time.
I make a living and I pay taxes on my winnings.
Did BW take advice from Party Pokers Laywers ?
The result of one hand of poker is luck. The result of one hundred thousand is skill. I would certainly say poker is a game of skill. However, convincing the feds of that stance would take more resources than we have, and the chances of success still aren't that great. (Have you ever tried to convince a stubborn relative or friend that you're not gambling?)
We do not use Party's lawyers. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: TheJourneyman at October 12, 2006, 6:22 pm | | Topic: It appears you are from xxxx - leave BW.com -- WTF?? Forum: Bonus Whores | Cha Ngo wrote: Damn, Washington, Nevada and now XXXX?
Where will it end?
EDIT:
Also, just how does your software detect if I am from XXXX?
I was thinking of moving there next summer (as I hear it is beautiful).
You should really avoid XXXX. If you want to leave Washington/Changostian you should really look into XYXY. Google it and you will thank me. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Cha Ngo at October 12, 2006, 6:12 pm | | Topic: It appears you are from xxxx - leave BW.com -- WTF?? Forum: Bonus Whores | Damn, Washington, Nevada and now XXXX?
Where will it end?
EDIT:
Also, just how does your software detect if I am from XXXX?
I was thinking of moving there next summer (as I hear it is beautiful).
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| Posted by: Lorenza at October 12, 2006, 6:04 pm | | Topic: It appears you are from xxxx - leave BW.com -- WTF?? Forum: Bonus Whores | One short question, does BW think that poker is gambling?
Poker is a game of skill and many players can easily proof it in court.
Gambling would be, if I risk my money and go broke.
With professional Bankroll management you will never have your whole bankroll at risk.
Poker is a game of knowledge of mathematic probabilities, and skill succeeds over cluelessness over time.
I make a living and I pay taxes on my winnings.
Did BW take advice from Party Pokers Laywers ? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: jek187 at October 12, 2006, 5:53 pm | | Topic: It appears you are from xxxx - leave BW.com -- WTF?? Forum: Bonus Whores | jackaho wrote: So the politicians have even banned the ability to collect and use information?
We have implemented this as a precautionary move, if our software detects you are from one of the states where online poker is illegal, then it will ask if it has detected that accurately. This move allows us to operate completely legally in the US. Being an affiliate may be illegal, if it's an affiliate of *illegal* online gambling. However, despite what the DOJ may say, the Wire Act does not make online poker illegal (the courts have backed this up) so the only thing we had to comply with was the various state laws.*
BW does have further plans, in regards to the current legal situation in the US, and I look forward to revealing those when our attorneys tell me I can.
* I am not a lawyer, and while the above is my opinion, nobody should depend on it in lieu of a professional opinion. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: AKJacket at October 12, 2006, 5:19 pm | | Topic: It appears you are from xxxx - leave BW.com -- WTF?? Forum: Bonus Whores | I think what he's saying is that BW is now restricted in certain states. He tried to go to a page and it said "You are from state XXXXX." and then had to either say he was NOT from XXXX, or leave BW.com.
I tried to go to a page and got an error in the geographic IP lookup, but I know that it was TRYING to look up my geographical location by my IP address. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: jackaho at October 12, 2006, 4:56 pm | | Topic: It appears you are from xxxx - leave BW.com -- WTF?? Forum: Bonus Whores | I went to get some info on how the Stars VPP's are calculated and what kind of hourly rate they work out to. As soon as I clicked on the link I got a message that said something like:
"It appears you are from the state of xxxx"
with "leave BW.com" or "I am not from xxxx" options.
I don't know if I have to lie or what or even if lying will work but apparently I won't be able to access this site unless I do. That sucks. I can understand if they won't allow us to sign up through them if I live in a certain state, but not even being able to look at the site? | | Static Link |
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