| Posted by: HoldemChamp at July 9, 2005, 3:22 pm | | Topic: My turn to vent! Forum: Card Chat |
I just want to know one thing.
If flushes and Straights are like water on the river, how come when I chase one I hardly ever get it.
I don't even average the pot odds number. I maybe. if I am lucky, get those hands 25% of the time Pot Odds indicate I should.
If there should ever be a contest for a poster child for not chasing I would win hands down.
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| Posted by: xdmanx007 at July 9, 2005, 6:55 am | | Topic: My turn to vent! Forum: Card Chat |
I have no idea how I made money tonight! I GOT 3,4 off'ed!! for 60 bucks and backdoor flushed for almost 70 in NL. Still came out ahead but man oh man was it rough! The 3,4 with the suck out bluffin me when I hit top 2 pair and then hitting running 3's on the turn and river is going to keep me from sitting down for at least a month!
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| Posted by: xdmanx007 at July 9, 2005, 1:21 am | | Topic: My turn to vent! Forum: Card Chat |
Well SNG's and tournies are different not usually necessary to bet strong draws. I still do it from time to time though
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| Posted by: colin_147 at July 8, 2005, 8:25 am | | Topic: My turn to vent! Forum: Card Chat |
I get what you are saying Xdman but I usually play in $20+ buy-in so the players are usually of a reasonable standard.
But against the weaker players, you can have some fun with these big hands
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| Posted by: xdmanx007 at July 8, 2005, 3:29 am | | Topic: My turn to vent! Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by bubbasbestbabe
Boy nothing like a couple pf posts to settle the nerves, huh Xdmanx ? You should figure out how to bottle this stuff and market it as the new alium.
LOL I so recover faster now than I used to still have a ways to go but yeah thinking about a different poker situation and having an ummm opinion hehe does seem to help. Plus good ole Number 7 from Lynvhburg Tennesee helps as well...
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| Posted by: bubbasbestbabe at July 8, 2005, 2:56 am | | Topic: My turn to vent! Forum: Card Chat |
Boy nothing like a couple pf posts to settle the nerves, huh Xdmanx ? You should figure out how to bottle this stuff and market it as the new alium.
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| Posted by: xdmanx007 at July 7, 2005, 11:36 pm | | Topic: My turn to vent! Forum: Card Chat |
Betting flush draws is actually a ery good play but not really for the reasons you state. Against weak opponents betting or raising a strong draw will almost always get the turn checked to you, this means you can take the river for free or if you hit your draw most inexperienced players won't put you on a draw and will pay you off. I do it all the time beautiful way to buy a free card, if that makes sense to you.
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| Posted by: colin_147 at July 7, 2005, 8:26 am | | Topic: My turn to vent! Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by xdmanx007
simply put if the pot odds and pot SIZE justify chasing down a 4 or 3 flush you should do it EVERYTIME. In NL proper betting by your opponent will destroy your drawing odds so generally speaking in NL you won't chase as many flush draws in limit you will be chasing them quite often
Of course I would chase this every time. The point I meant to make was chasing the flush when 3 suited. Naturally the odds increase. I normally make a small-medium raise 4 suited pre-turn to keep everyone interested
Folded an Ace flush yesterday playing 2 tables and folded the wrong hand, was steaming for hours!
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| Posted by: xdmanx007 at July 7, 2005, 4:16 am | | Topic: My turn to vent! Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by colin_147
I never used to chase the flush but lately I have been limping and caught a few nice one's. Ladbrokes is renowned for hitting flushes on the river and I would say I hit it 70% when holding the 4 pre-turn. Won a huge pot with 4 all-ins when holding A Jh a few days ago
simply put if the pot odds and pot SIZE justify chasing down a 4 or 3 flush you should do it EVERYTIME. In NL proper betting by your opponent will destroy your drawing odds so generally speaking in NL you won't chase as many flush draws in limit you will be chasing them quite often
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| Posted by: Crippler450 at July 7, 2005, 3:55 am | | Topic: My turn to vent! Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by RammerJammer
I've just seen so many of those type hands, and there seems to be more and more of them all the time. "Action hands". But I never seem to be the one in the driver's seat when the river rolls. Sets beaten by larger sets. Straights beaten by flushes. Flushes beaten by full houses. Yesterday, the biggest train wreck I'd ever personally witnessed. Wasn't involved, thank God. AA, QQ, JJ turned into Quad Queens, quad Jacks, and a Full House A's over Q's. Two players busted out holding absolutely monster hands. One player wins a $140 pot at the nickle/dime table! I mean, come on.
If that happens at Royal Vegas/Crazy poker, those at the table win $500 split between them (everyone dealt cards) for the bad beat jackpot! (i won $18 once just for sitting at a table where a straight flush beat 6666)
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| Posted by: Devilpoker78 at July 7, 2005, 2:10 am | | Topic: My turn to vent! Forum: Card Chat |
Ok my turn to whine. Got rivered twice in jetset freerolls yesterday being so close to the money. First one was in a $25 Added tourney for 750 players (lame I know but I had nothing better to do). I survived 500 morons for the first hour, was sitting pretty mid ranking when I caught two top pair on the flop, I raised and moron raises back, everyone folds. I go all in moron calls with top pair, YES! She catches a runner runner straight and I was history! Fine. $50 Added 1000! players. Another 2 hours surviving 8-2os morons, about 100 people left and 33 places from money. I was on a sweet table, there were 4 sitouts and was getting the better of the 3 active ones when this 2nd chip lead moron gets transferred to my table. he has about 10 times more chips than I do and was raising monsters every round with mostly nothing. So I waited for my chance, and raised with JKs he reraises and I call. Flop comes 8h 3d Jc he bets a ton and I raise him back knowing he had nothing, he calls. Turn comes 5d he bets huge ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Smilin at July 7, 2005, 1:03 am | | Topic: My turn to vent! Forum: Card Chat |
Sorry to hear of your bad luck. I know the feeling. Not a big time player myself.
I was going to post about my own run of bad luck/bad play..whatever. But decided against it. I think I'm done myself. It's been a distraction anyway and this run of bad luck is probably what I needed to get me out of the rut of playing.
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| Posted by: Grumbledook at July 6, 2005, 8:49 pm | | Topic: My turn to vent! Forum: Card Chat |
Man tell me about it, I flop trips get some betting and lost on the river to a flush $200 buy in down the drain.
Then I rebuy for $100 and make some moves get up to 170.
Same guy who hit the flush raises my bb I call with 33
Flop comes AK3, another set against him, nice! turn bricks all the money goes in he had AK! Revenge is sweet!
Then few hands later after we finish "debating" i limp with A9off (short handed table) flop comes AKA.
Same dude again bets the whole way and shows down A8, he promptly left the table and my stack is sitting at $500, so a profit of 200.
But man that first beat sucked! ARGH
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| Posted by: takua at July 6, 2005, 8:04 pm | | Topic: My turn to vent! Forum: Card Chat |
Rammer,
You need to look at your posts on the "online poker being rigged" thread again....
Suddenly your tune has changed.
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| Posted by: xdmanx007 at July 6, 2005, 7:01 pm | | Topic: My turn to vent! Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by lunagirl
Poor thing, xdman. The past two nights have really zapped that string of polite posts you had going. But at least it hasn't affected your confidence.
Errrrr I have been told I have self confidence issues..... didn't buy what they were selling though
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| Posted by: charterboss at July 6, 2005, 4:37 pm | | Topic: My turn to vent! Forum: Card Chat |
well at least your run has only been 2 days -I think I have been on about a 10 day period of unlucky flops no catches and some rather poor decisions on my part.. Have to go back to tighten up my game somewhat and wait for the next good wave of cards to flow back my way---
Here it is summer and I'm stuck in a cold spell
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| Posted by: IrishDave at July 6, 2005, 3:42 pm | | Topic: My turn to vent! Forum: Card Chat |
Hey Rammer, was that crazy hand at Ultimatebet? Playing the ring games there I saw quads 5 times in about an hour. They moved around the table (had one myself) so it wasn't like the same person every time. I agree that these "action" hands tend to happen to often to be mere chance...
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| Posted by: RammerJammer at July 6, 2005, 2:51 pm | | Topic: My turn to vent! Forum: Card Chat |
Do you ever get to the point when you're playing online where you turn decent hole cards...and get nervous? I find myself increasingly thinking, "Alright, a pair of fives on the button. Good deal. But, wait. I wonder if there's a pair of fours and a pair of sixes sitting out there? And there's going to be three sets on the board by the turn, waiting for the collision?" It's like I'm starting to expect the wicked beat to show up, as if it were inevitable.
I've just seen so many of those type hands, and there seems to be more and more of them all the time. "Action hands". But I never seem to be the one in the driver's seat when the river rolls. Sets beaten by larger sets. Straights beaten by flushes. Flushes beaten by full houses. Yesterday, the biggest train wreck I'd ever personally witnessed. Wasn't involved, thank God. AA, QQ, JJ turned into Quad Queens, quad Jacks, and a Full House A's over Q's. Two players busted out holding absolutely monster hands. One player wins a ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: lunagirl at July 6, 2005, 2:32 pm | | Topic: My turn to vent! Forum: Card Chat |
Poor thing, xdman. The past two nights have really zapped that string of polite posts you had going. But at least it hasn't affected your confidence.
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| Posted by: colin_147 at July 6, 2005, 2:26 pm | | Topic: My turn to vent! Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by HoldemChamp
Yesterday I had KK and kept betting out to a guy who had bottom pair off 6s. He had 96 off in the hole. He picked up his third 6 on the river.
I was steamed over that one. That was pretty much how the whole table was playing. Keeping 2nd and bottom pair hoping to 2 pair.
I scraped out 2x the Big for an hour of play. Would have profited nicely if I hadn't made a couple of mistakes along the way.
The biggest was folding a 4 flush when the turn bet was just barely of the odds I wanted to call. Would have rivered a flush.
Oh well. That's poker.
I never used to chase the flush but lately I have been limping and caught a few nice one's. Ladbrokes is renowned for hitting flushes on the river and I would say I hit it 70% when holding the 4 pre-turn. Won a huge pot with 4 all-ins when holding A Jh a few days ago
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| Posted by: HoldemChamp at July 6, 2005, 1:46 pm | | Topic: My turn to vent! Forum: Card Chat |
Yesterday I had KK and kept betting out to a guy who had bottom pair off 6s. He had 96 off in the hole. He picked up his third 6 on the river.
I was steamed over that one. That was pretty much how the whole table was playing. Keeping 2nd and bottom pair hoping to 2 pair.
I scraped out 2x the Big for an hour of play. Would have profited nicely if I hadn't made a couple of mistakes along the way.
The biggest was folding a 4 flush when the turn bet was just barely of the odds I wanted to call. Would have rivered a flush.
Oh well. That's poker.
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| Posted by: Kanufi at July 6, 2005, 1:35 pm | | Topic: My turn to vent! Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by diabloblanco
Wow, XD. I wouldn't have picked on ya, if I knew you were that steamed.
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Now, that really made me laugh.
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| Posted by: diabloblanco at July 6, 2005, 11:38 am | | Topic: My turn to vent! Forum: Card Chat |
Wow, XD. I wouldn't have picked on ya, if I knew you were that steamed.
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| Posted by: xdmanx007 at July 6, 2005, 6:50 am | | Topic: My turn to vent! Forum: Card Chat |
Ouch! you are dam right there! The best player at the entire site came out behind! Totally unbelievable I know.... Too bad those no good lucky suck outs will be paying me off on the next hand! First we then I and finally I RIGHT ON THEIR LAME A@@ @u*&in HEADS! and suddenly I feel much better!
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| Posted by: Devilpoker78 at July 6, 2005, 6:00 am | | Topic: My turn to vent! Forum: Card Chat |
Ouch lol, another string of bad beats, typical poker night out for the players with common sense and better judgement. Better luck next time buddy.
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| Posted by: xdmanx007 at July 6, 2005, 3:56 am | | Topic: My turn to vent! Forum: Card Chat |
2 night in a row now I lose 2 BIG hands where I flop top 2 pair and lose on the river to a BETTER 2 pair! I seriously want to break something! GD Karma catching upto me or something! This last hand flop aces up on a rainbow board all in on the turn opponent turns over ace queen and sure as shit pulls a queen on the river first then next and finally
I guess I just have to work on dealing with hands where the opponent hits 1 of those 3 outs!
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