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Posted by: imhopper at August 21, 2005, 7:03 pm
Topic: Cheating going on at Party Poker, Empire Poker, Ultimate Bet Forum: Card Chat

ill tell u what zing i agree with a hundred percent there are just sometimes when someone will call against u or someone else and they have no chance of winning unless they knew what was coming or what the other player had
ive heard some people talking that there are bots at some sites do u believe that too
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Posted by: UncleChuckle at August 21, 2005, 6:47 pm
Topic: Cheating going on at Party Poker, Empire Poker, Ultimate Bet Forum: Card Chat

I'm trying to convince my wife to sign up on some of these poker sites, but we're behind a router, so we have the same IP. The few sites I've checked, you have to submit a photocopy of driving licenses, as well as (in the case of one site) an affadavit stating you won't collude etc...

Which kinda stinks, as it makes the easy sign up a lot less easy. I figure the software should be smart enough to make sure two people with the same IP can't be at the same table. Problem solved.
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Posted by: zingbust at August 17, 2005, 7:21 pm
Topic: Cheating going on at Party Poker, Empire Poker, Ultimate Bet Forum: Card Chat


Quote: Originally Posted by robwhufc

Zing, I did a thread a while ago that broke down one of these cheat sites. All you need is access to the Poker Site's servers and passwords and whoosh!

http://www.cardschat.com/t60624-oh-m...is-genius.html

Rob, yeah, that was the company that advertised on my website till I saw their ad and had to add the filter to ban them. Google was my advertising provider and they had to pay google for each click to their site, so I guess the idea worked well enough for the scammers to pay for clicks to their site. Are they still in business?
Paul
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Posted by: soadwes at August 17, 2005, 3:55 pm
Topic: Cheating going on at Party Poker, Empire Poker, Ultimate Bet Forum: Card Chat


Quote: Originally Posted by robwhufc

All you need is access to the Poker Site's servers and passwords and whoosh!

LOL, let me get right on that.... It can't be too hard to get access to servers and retrieve passwords... I'll google it! LOL
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Posted by: robwhufc at August 17, 2005, 3:45 pm
Topic: Cheating going on at Party Poker, Empire Poker, Ultimate Bet Forum: Card Chat

Zing, I did a thread a while ago that broke down one of these cheat sites. All you need is access to the Poker Site's servers and passwords and whoosh!

http://www.cardschat.com/t60624-oh-m...is-genius.html
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Posted by: soadwes at August 17, 2005, 3:34 pm
Topic: Cheating going on at Party Poker, Empire Poker, Ultimate Bet Forum: Card Chat

Even now I noticed many poker sites will restrict 2 people playing at the same table from the same IP address. I know this doesn't stop it, but I'm sure it slows alot of people down...
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Posted by: Dorkus Malorkus at August 17, 2005, 6:49 am
Topic: Cheating going on at Party Poker, Empire Poker, Ultimate Bet Forum: Card Chat

The target would have to essentially click an ok box when a "Do you want to install this trojan?" message pops up in order for this to work (simple spyware isn't a risk), and even then that's only one single person out of the thousands that play at many sites, and if anyone lets their computer get infected like that they're so dumb you could beat them just as easily by not being able to see their cards probably. The funny thing is anyone who's fallen for this scam has basically paid to infect their computer with this shit that allows other users of this shit to see their hole cards, so it's a case of the dumb feeding the dumber.

Collusion is far more of a threat than that crap - if you want to worry about something, worry about that.
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Posted by: Crippler450 at August 17, 2005, 6:11 am
Topic: Cheating going on at Party Poker, Empire Poker, Ultimate Bet Forum: Card Chat

Yes there are cheating programs and No, hardly anyone uses them. Why? Because the site will quickly detect the software, suspend your account, and keep your money. Not many people are stupid enough to use these hacks.
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Posted by: zingbust at August 17, 2005, 2:10 am
Topic: Cheating going on at Party Poker, Empire Poker, Ultimate Bet Forum: Card Chat

Hi everyone,
Is there anything to this claim by a couple of firms at least that blatantly advertise their product as giving you access to your opponents' hole cards? A friend of mine was playing on Party Poker and a pop-up ad came up for a company that said something like "Are your opponents using our product to spy on you? You bet they are! Check us out at ............" and it gave their website address. A few weeks ago, I caught another company advertising on my own poker website that claimed the same thing, I had to use a filter to ban them from the advertising program I'm subscribed to. The claims they make appear to be outrageous and like it's probably just a scam to get you to send them your money for the product, but I thought about it long and hard for awhile and realized that to some extent, a product like that could work. For example, anyone whose computer might be even slightly ulnerable to spyware, who isits their website could be the next ictim. A person goes to the website, ...
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