| Posted by: SexyAceJoker at January 15, 2006, 2:20 pm | | Topic: Poker, Sport or Game? Forum: Card Chat |
To begin my post, I would like to say, chess is a sport. Before moving on to play poker, i used to play chess at a pro level, if you could say. I had gained a tittle and i used to travel around the United states playing big tournaments, with had buy ins ( raging from 50 dollars to 2000 dollars ) . In chess you recieve rating, with measures your strength. You can check www.fide.com the official world federation page or www.chessbase.com , that gives information on all of chess world news. Most of the top ranked players have played since they where 4, and didnt even go to school, they live out of this profession. As for poker, i believe that as long as you can read books on a subject, and you can train at it, and prove by means of skill, that you are better then someone in something, it should be a sport. Some people say poker aint a sport because you play to win money, well , in every major game you are playing for money. Do you think Allen Iverson would be happy to play on the NBA for free ? NO!, this i... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: XXIII at January 15, 2006, 5:28 am | | Topic: Poker, Sport or Game? Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by El Viajero
By this logic tennis (singles) is not a sport. Nor are most athletics. Do you really not consider these to be sports?
Baseball
Football
Hockey
Basketball
Soccer
Rugby
Volleyball
OK Fine any game where you sweat, play offense and defense, can get injured by an opposing player, and most importantly it is not something someone over the age of 65 can do.
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| Posted by: bubbasbestbabe at January 15, 2006, 2:51 am | | Topic: Poker, Sport or Game? Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by XXIII
Poker is a game to me. But don't feel like I do not love it.
But I also do not count:
Car Racing
Golf
Figure Skating
Body Building
and many others
Just because I consider a sport something between 2 teams where a score is kept and there is a possibility of injury.
We have had team play here and as for injury, I've taken quite a few hits to my bankroll playing poker.
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| Posted by: Styrofoam at January 15, 2006, 1:45 am | | Topic: Poker, Sport or Game? Forum: Card Chat |
just to make a point... Chess is considered a sport...and in fact, it was in the sports almanac last i remember....and poker is nearly the same as chess IMO.
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| Posted by: Kenzie 96 at January 14, 2006, 11:35 pm | | Topic: Poker, Sport or Game? Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by Bill_Hollorian
Neither.
Poker is a love affair...
If you dont take it seriously it is no fun...
If you do take it seriously, it will break your heart.
-Bill
Nice quote, Bill. Competitive love affair works for me.
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| Posted by: El Viajero at January 14, 2006, 1:04 pm | | Topic: Poker, Sport or Game? Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by XXIII
Poker is a game to me. But don't feel like I do not love it.
But I also do not count:
Car Racing
Golf
Figure Skating
Body Building
and many others
Just because I consider a sport something between 2 teams where a score is kept and there is a possibility of injury.
By this logic tennis (singles) is not a sport. Nor are most athletics. Do you really not consider these to be sports?
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| Posted by: holduplaya at January 14, 2006, 10:57 am | | Topic: Poker, Sport or Game? Forum: Card Chat |
one group of players teams up and another group of players form a tam and they play each others team for points, also , money. Like hockey the teams play each other and win the Stanley Cup.
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| Posted by: XXIII at January 14, 2006, 9:01 am | | Topic: Poker, Sport or Game? Forum: Card Chat |
Poker is a game to me. But don't feel like I do not love it.
But I also do not count:
Car Racing
Golf
Figure Skating
Body Building
and many others
Just because I consider a sport something between 2 teams where a score is kept and there is a possibility of injury.
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| Posted by: Beriac at January 14, 2006, 12:51 am | | Topic: Poker, Sport or Game? Forum: Card Chat |
With respect to the posters who make excellent points in favour of poker as a sport, I would say it is a game.
1 - I think that the definition of sport as a competitive physical activity precludes poker. Sure, you need to move your arms, but hey sleeping requires breathing and moving your lungs. It's not physical activity the way such is meant.
2 - Everything I can think of in the English lexicon... "games of chance", "games of skill", "game of poker", the word that always fits best is game.
This is not to take away from poker, I think it's a great game and I don't think it would be improved if the players played while skipping rope, but I don't think we can really fairly call it a sport.
Personally, I see the link between chess and poker, and the logic that if chess is a sport then so is poker, but I think the link to chess as a sport is not really rock solid either so it's not enough to convince me.
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| Posted by: Crippler450 at January 14, 2006, 12:33 am | | Topic: Poker, Sport or Game? Forum: Card Chat |
Its an intellectual game of skill. The only physical attribute really involved in being a good poker player is endurance. You have to be able to be alert and awake for hours on end (if you play for extended periods of time). I would never refer to poker as a 'sport', but thats just me.
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| Posted by: twizzybop at January 13, 2006, 11:45 pm | | Topic: Poker, Sport or Game? Forum: Card Chat |
I have never heard of a sport where you make all your decisions based on mathematics.
Golf is based apon math.. how many yards determines which club you use.
Every shot taken is based apon #'s
Pool is always based apon angles.
Darts, Horseshoes are others that are based apon math decisions.
I could go on..
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| Posted by: pimpim at January 13, 2006, 11:29 pm | | Topic: Poker, Sport or Game? Forum: Card Chat |
I would go for game.. this is my argument: (I just grabbed it out of the air so please correct me cause I'm probably wrong...)
Since the cards are randomly distributed you base your decision on statistics when you play poker. For me it is a dynamic mathematical problem. I have never heard of a sport where you make all your decisions based on mathematics. Therefor.... a GAME!
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| Posted by: El Viajero at January 13, 2006, 2:27 pm | | Topic: Poker, Sport or Game? Forum: Card Chat |
I ote for 'game'.
I reckon those who are claiming it to be a sport are physically incapable of playing sports and want to claim that they are at least good at one 'sport' Just kidding people.
As for golf... hmmm... it's a sport in the loosest sense. And I agree with the person that said there's no other way of playing golf than with a beer and a fag in each hand!
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| Posted by: Gizzi315 at January 13, 2006, 12:29 pm | | Topic: Poker, Sport or Game? Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by Bill_Hollorian
Neither.
Poker is a love affair...
If you dont take it seriously it is no fun...
If you do take it seriously, it will break your heart.
-Bill
I like it! And VERY true!
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| Posted by: theBullet at January 13, 2006, 11:07 am | | Topic: Poker, Sport or Game? Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by tribal_kronic
Chess is a sport, yet it requires no physical action.
there are no odds in chess. its a mental sport. if one is willing to gabmle and rely on luck in his game where luck and gambling are a big part of it , that right there kills the whole idea of a sport. poker is not a sport - u cannot know what the next cards are going to be - u can only know what odds u have to win while in chess if u are good enough u can set up the game in your favour with your first move. same thing with blackjack....u can count cards and calculate odds but u have to gamble...only true geniouses can beat the blackjack game... and i am willing to say that balckjack is closer to a mental sport than poker....cheers
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| Posted by: ~~Shelynn~~ at January 12, 2006, 8:00 pm | | Topic: Poker, Sport or Game? Forum: Card Chat |
Rock you and I are on the same wave link with poker,relaxing, competive an it's such a rush when you nail the hand. Like a cat playing with a mouse but not eating it,just yet! LOL
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| Posted by: mets40 at January 6, 2006, 10:16 pm | | Topic: Poker, Sport or Game? Forum: Card Chat |
The question is not the definition of sport, but the definition of poker, and as per Merriam-Webster:
Main Entry: 2po·ker
Pronunciation: 'pO-k&r
Function: noun
Etymology: probably modification of French poque, a card game similar to poker
: any of several card games in which a player bets that the alue of his or her hand is greater than that of the hands held by others, in which each subsequent player must either equal or raise the bet or drop out, and in which the player holding the highest hand at the end of the betting wins the pot
Very clearly it is a game.
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| Posted by: tribal_kronic at January 6, 2006, 6:20 pm | | Topic: Poker, Sport or Game? Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by gfpokerfan
To Tribal, chess is a board game, not a sport in my opinion.
I found this article by Alan T. Sherman that I think does a great job of proving that sports don't have to be physical. I also believe you can apply this article to prove that poker is a sport.
The fact that arious sports directories exclude chess is not evidence chess is not a sport; instead, this omission merely reflects that large segments of our culture do not currently iew chess as a sport. The National Sports Federation of the Netherlands, however, classifies chess as a sport, and chess plays a significant role in many atheletic departments in Belarus and in other eastern republics. Many people consider chess the national sport of the former Soviet Union.
The ancient Greeks greatly alued activities of the mind and included a ariety of intellectual performances (including poetry reading) in their sporting events. Negotiations have been underway to make ches... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: twizzybop at January 6, 2006, 5:45 pm | | Topic: Poker, Sport or Game? Forum: Card Chat |
Definitions of 'sport' (spôrt, spōrt) - 15 definitions - American Heritage Dictionary
sport (n.) Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.
sport (v.) To play or frolic.
sport (v.) To display or show off:“His shoes sported elevated heels” (Truman Capote)
So it is a sport.. it is physical.. not ery.. you do move your arms..it is goverened by a set of rules and it is competitive.
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| Posted by: titans4ever at January 6, 2006, 5:00 pm | | Topic: Poker, Sport or Game? Forum: Card Chat |
To Tribal, chess is a board game, not a sport in my opinion.
Sport to me means physical activity. Banging your head against the wall or kicking the dog after bad beats don't count.
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| Posted by: t1riel at January 6, 2006, 4:47 pm | | Topic: Poker, Sport or Game? Forum: Card Chat |
Webster definiton of sport is:
a source of diversion, physical activity engaged in for pleasure.
In that case, I say poker is a sport.
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| Posted by: cybul at January 6, 2006, 4:36 pm | | Topic: Poker, Sport or Game? Forum: Card Chat |
Well, how you can call poker a sport. You're not doing sports playing poker.
It's maybe a fight or even a war a psycho war.
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| Posted by: DESSERTLADY at January 6, 2006, 3:31 pm | | Topic: Poker, Sport or Game? Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by Bill_Hollorian
Neither.
Poker is a love affair...
If you dont take it seriously it is no fun...
If you do take it seriously, it will break your heart.
-Bill
Great quote Bill Sounds like my relationship with poker that's for sure.
BBB,
I have to say myself Sport. I know you are sitting for hours at a time (and you may be able to smoke and drink beer at some places) but when your heart pounds from the adrenaline(sp)rush and if you are playing for a ery long time fatigue sets in(such as at the WSOP(not from personal experience just read that several times). It's a sport. I ery much like the competition(money is just a bonus!!!)
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| Posted by: Bill_Hollorian at January 6, 2006, 10:24 am | | Topic: Poker, Sport or Game? Forum: Card Chat |
Neither.
Poker is a love affair...
If you dont take it seriously it is no fun...
If you do take it seriously, it will break your heart.
-Bill
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| Posted by: nateofdeath at January 6, 2006, 4:08 am | | Topic: Poker, Sport or Game? Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by tenbob
Ive played golf like that !
well, you know there are some people who might argue that golf is not a sport, though not me. When i play i always have to put my beer and cigarette down before i swing. and i've never even heard of chess being called a spot, though i wouldn't argue it.
technicaly, Webster's dictionary defines a sport as any recreational activity, game, or competition requiring bodily exertion.
i think one can play a game and want to be the best at it. if you want to call poker a sport, i think you would also have to include such games as billiards, darts, bowling, even blackjack, craps, roulette, backgammon, scrabble, fox hunting, competitive spelling, competitive eating, heck even ideo games as sports as well, as they require just as much, if not more, bodily exertion as poker does. i'm not arguing though.
-n
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| Posted by: tribal_kronic at January 6, 2006, 2:19 am | | Topic: Poker, Sport or Game? Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by celtsoxpats
As much as i love poker i would have to say that it's a game. There isnt anything physical in poker. You are not moving around at all and u arent using your body to win the GAME! Id like to hear more ppl's opinions on this.
Chess is a sport, yet it requires no physical action.
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| Posted by: tenbob at January 5, 2006, 10:37 pm | | Topic: Poker, Sport or Game? Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by nateofdeath
I have always been of the opinion that any game that one can play with a beer in your hand and a cigarette in your mouth is not a sport. I can see the logic of calling poker a sport, but it just doesn't work for me.
-n
Ive played golf like that !
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| Posted by: holduplaya at January 5, 2006, 10:20 pm | | Topic: Poker, Sport or Game? Forum: Card Chat |
BUT i say its a sport game like Hockey its considered a sport but it takes a Game to make a sport.
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| Posted by: nateofdeath at January 5, 2006, 9:58 pm | | Topic: Poker, Sport or Game? Forum: Card Chat |
I have always been of the opinion that any game that one can play with a beer in your hand and a cigarette in your mouth is not a sport. I can see the logic of calling poker a sport, but it just doesn't work for me.
-n
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| Posted by: JAMILE1 at January 5, 2006, 9:47 pm | | Topic: Poker, Sport or Game? Forum: Card Chat |
I am the same ery competitive in all the sports I play especially golf and poker now that's about all I can do at my age LOL but golf and poker makes me some cash which is always good but to win when doing it is the bestest thingy to do.
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| Posted by: bubbasbestbabe at January 5, 2006, 8:54 pm | | Topic: Poker, Sport or Game? Forum: Card Chat |
I was wondering at how you look on playing poker. Do you play for just the money or do you wish to dominate because it's a competition?
The money for me is a way to keep score. I play poker because of the competition factor. It's a need to win and to get better till I win at most games. I have played at most games this way, focusing in on my flaws of play and bringing them up till I win consistently.
For me, in the long run, poker is then a sport, to be played till there is a winner,(me). I guess that's also why I like tourney play better then straight games. There is one clear winner on top.
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