| Posted by: Jack Daniels at September 6, 2006, 6:00 am | | Topic: mucking cards Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by t1riel
He paid to see your hand, you have to show.
I didn't think of this until I saw your post, but I've noticed that in live cash games (and I'm specifically talking about B&M casinos here), this isn't often enforced as you move up in levels. At least from where I've been, played, and seen, most times if you get called down on the river and choose to muck, it usually goes without hassle and the caller gets the chips. I'm not necessarily agreeing with this (as I like to see cards that I've paid to see), but it's just something I noticed.
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| Posted by: OneMoreBust at September 6, 2006, 5:48 am | | Topic: mucking cards Forum: Card Chat |
Heh, we had this argument a few times in our house game a few years back.
Matt would make a huge bluff. Joe would call him down.... Matt immediately knew that his 10 high was no good, and would muck. Joe would argue that he paid to see Matt's cards and should see them, Matt would argue that he paid to win the pot, and he did so to shut up
Funny stuff, but IMO Joe already knew that Matt had nothing, so there is no point in seeing the cards....
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| Posted by: Jack Daniels at September 4, 2006, 7:40 am | | Topic: mucking cards Forum: Card Chat |
Just a couple points base on "Robert's Rules of Poker", the standard on which most card rooms are based (although house rules can take precedence in certain circumstances).
POKER ETIQUETTE
The following actions are improper, and grounds for warning, suspending, or barring a iolator:
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Telling anyone to turn a hand faceup at the showdown.
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My Note: Turning cards up did not even enter the picture until TV ratings and hole cams came into play. This practice was invented in the US for tournaments and is widely adopted in home/private games. And if this is a cash game, you are not required to turn up cards at showdown unless a house rule prevails or you lay claim to a pot.
DECISION-MAKING
1. Management reserves the right to make decisions in the spirit of fairness, even if a strict interpretation of the rules may indicate a different ruling.
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THE SHOWDOWN
1. To win any part of a pot, a player must show all of his card... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: tucum at September 3, 2006, 10:15 pm | | Topic: mucking cards Forum: Card Chat |
in home games house rules prevail but in a real game at the casinos i have played at if it comes to a showdown then they flip the cards but if it isnt a showdown then if you dont muck your cards you cant just show one person you have to show the table
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| Posted by: shinedown.45 at September 3, 2006, 12:27 am | | Topic: mucking cards Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by Spade6tight
dont listen to him...At home games you dont have to do anything.....House rules....
Well said spade
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| Posted by: wsorbust at September 3, 2006, 12:07 am | | Topic: mucking cards Forum: Card Chat |
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Hes saying that since its a home game you can change the rules.
Really?.bah..I'd consider it more of a ery questionable bending of 1 rule.
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| Posted by: mischman at September 3, 2006, 12:04 am | | Topic: mucking cards Forum: Card Chat |
Hes saying that since its a home game you can change the rules. Whats next? your flopped straight loses to a river flush and your going to change the rules so that a straight beats a flush?
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| Posted by: wsorbust at September 2, 2006, 10:50 pm | | Topic: mucking cards Forum: Card Chat |
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Tell him to go screw himself...you dont have to show your cards....
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Wow could you be any more of a moron ?
loool. You flamers kill me !
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| Posted by: mischman at September 2, 2006, 10:34 pm | | Topic: mucking cards Forum: Card Chat |
You have to show both cards. You should of showed both and even though you didnt, he had the right to ask and see it
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| Posted by: juiceeQ at September 2, 2006, 10:08 pm | | Topic: mucking cards Forum: Card Chat |
OK guys. No need to get in a twist about whether or not to muck your cards. Keep it civil.
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| Posted by: LetsGetItOn at September 2, 2006, 8:51 pm | | Topic: mucking cards Forum: Card Chat |
Wow could you be any more of a moron ? You go to showdown you flip over your entire hand, no questions asked.
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| Posted by: wsorbust at September 2, 2006, 8:47 pm | | Topic: mucking cards Forum: Card Chat |
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dont listen to him...At home games you dont have to do anything.....House rules....
I agree, you've got to try to get away with shady things in home games, especially with inexperienced members who don't know or have never played.... but both SHOULD show.
Next time, try doing something like flipping over your cards in front of you on the river without calling or folding and see how the shit hits the fan because no one understood the official rules. Then when he thinks you called, he says you win...because he had no hand anyway, you can explain: HOW CAN WE PLAY BY OFFICIAL RULES if people don't know them and no one can enforce them!? Take the chips and then explain that you never called or folded, but thanks anyway! If you lose the hand...even better...b/c you never called.
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| Posted by: Spade6tight at September 2, 2006, 8:35 pm | | Topic: mucking cards Forum: Card Chat |
dont listen to him...At home games you dont have to do anything.....House rules....
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| Posted by: LetsGetItOn at September 2, 2006, 8:13 pm | | Topic: mucking cards Forum: Card Chat |
The winning hand has to flip over his full hand anyways. Oh and at most casinos (atleast in cash games) if the other person asks to see the hole cards of a player who mucks I believe the dealer is willing to flip it over.
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| Posted by: Spade6tight at September 2, 2006, 8:10 pm | | Topic: mucking cards Forum: Card Chat |
Tell him to go screw himself...you dont have to show your cards....
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| Posted by: bigdaddyrod at September 2, 2006, 7:08 pm | | Topic: mucking cards Forum: Card Chat |
thanks i was hoping that someone not in the hand couldnt ask. the guy is a real ball buster and it would be great to make him eat his words
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| Posted by: juiceeQ at September 2, 2006, 6:49 pm | | Topic: mucking cards Forum: Card Chat |
In a showdown situation like that, I thought both players had to show their cards. "Show one show all" is the standard rule when you do show the cards, I believe.
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| Posted by: bigdaddyrod at September 2, 2006, 6:43 pm | | Topic: mucking cards Forum: Card Chat |
question? during a home game myself and one other went to the river and i got called. I showed that i had a jack in my hand and it paired the river. the other guy said you win. another player at the table asked to see my other card after i threw it in the muck. i said tough. can a player not in the hand ask to see my cards. what if i said i play the board? I realize the player who called me can ask and i can ask him.
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