| Posted by: beardyian at February 18, 2007, 12:28 pm | | Topic: Hellmuth Meltdown Forum: Card Chat |
Update on Phils mood
Just seen the 1st 2 eps of week 4 of Poker After Dark (Shana Hiatt ) and from l-r Sammy Farha, Tony G, Mike Matusow, Phil, Phil 'Cranky today' Ivey & Andy 'Sat on my cowboy hat' Block.
Ivey and Block were quiet but the other 4 were joking & laughing like kids, Ivey p-d off because he missed a golf game , but with hi-5s between Hellmuth & G for best one-liners, it was a great show.
The anti-Hellmuth show almost lol
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| Posted by: Sharpcushaw at February 18, 2007, 3:39 am | | Topic: Hellmuth Meltdown Forum: Card Chat |
I love Phil Hellmuth's patented all in. You know when he jumps out of his chair and sloppily pushes his chips in.
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| Posted by: baystate123 at February 18, 2007, 3:31 am | | Topic: Hellmuth Meltdown Forum: Card Chat |
Phil is 1 of my favorites though. If you're having a game you want Phil to have a spot.
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| Posted by: beardyian at February 17, 2007, 10:06 pm | | Topic: Hellmuth Meltdown Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by wsorbust
Hellmuth - It seems that I was the one who crossed the line here, and I apologize to everyone involved; and to all of the television iewers--for my conduct.
So when we hear about how the pros stay alert and aware of the things going on around the table - it perhaps isnt quite as true as they make out
If only Phil had been using his 'reading abilities' to actually realise irtually nothing that he thought that was going on was
Everyones out to get me
no, i just asked 'how are you today?'
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| Posted by: stormswa at February 17, 2007, 9:06 pm | | Topic: Hellmuth Meltdown Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by wsorbust
This is Phil commenting on the outburst, etc...from PhilHellmuth.com, in case anyone wanted to know what he Really thought...
very mature of him to come out with this, I kinda gained some respect for him from this.
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| Posted by: wsorbust at February 17, 2007, 8:54 pm | | Topic: Hellmuth Meltdown Forum: Card Chat |
This is Phil commenting on the outburst, etc...from PhilHellmuth.com, in case anyone wanted to know what he Really thought...I find it kind of odd. It really changes my point of iew. I guess I've got to stop hatin' on Sheiky too much also.
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Why did I lose it? I lost it simply because I asked my tablemates to "Please" be quiet for a moment?--during a key hand, and they continued to talk. If my tablemates did in fact go on talking after I asked for silence, then by TDA (Tournament Directors Association) rules they would be assessed a twenty minute penalty, and be forced to hold their tongues and/or leave the room. Did they really talk out of turn after I requested silence? At the time I felt like they had, and I wanted a ruling from show producer and long time poker player Morey Eskandani.
I asked Eskandani what penalties were in place to prevent blatant iolations of the rules and etiquette of poker tournaments. He stated that they had no penalties in place a... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: wsorbust at February 16, 2007, 3:45 am | | Topic: Hellmuth Meltdown Forum: Card Chat |
oh...my bad. sorry. I can respect final tables and other non-1st place finishes, but not when I see that type of personality every time he's on t (except for heads up tournies of course). A horrible player that's a nice guy trumps a horrible guy/personality that's a "good" player any day in my respect book. Gordon and Kaplan are prime examples, not that they're actually horrible players... The reason Hellmuth gets away with it is because you know he goes home and is generally a nice/decent guy and hopefully doesn't be a crybaby except in the sack.
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Just because you have never heard of the player dosent mean the player isn't a great player. No one had ever heard of Shawn so everyone considered him lucky or a one hit wonder when he made 11th in wsop.
I've heard of him, and seen him play several times. I definitely thought his play was Very shotty during that week of Poker After Dark, but I think Hellmuth should have got more respect from Sheiky since he... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: smd173 at February 16, 2007, 3:16 am | | Topic: Hellmuth Meltdown Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by wsorbust
wikipedia says he has none....hmmm.
I said WSOP final tables, not bracelets.
If you'd like an interesting comparison, Phil Gordon also has no bracelets but many WSOP final tables.
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| Posted by: stormswa at February 16, 2007, 3:10 am | | Topic: Hellmuth Meltdown Forum: Card Chat |
Just because you have never heard of the player dosent mean the player isn't a great player. No one had ever heard of Shawn so everyone considered him lucky or a one hit wonder when he made 11th in wsop.
do you know David "Chip" Reese who one the 50k horse event last year didn't start playing tournaments until a couple years ago but has been considered one of the best players in the world for awhile now.
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| Posted by: stormswa at February 16, 2007, 2:54 am | | Topic: Hellmuth Meltdown Forum: Card Chat |
from cardplayer...
Sean "Sheiky" Sheikhan achieved immediate fame when he and Mike "The Mouth" Matusow sparred erbally at the feature table of the 2005 World Series of Poker championship. The two spent a "timeout" together on the rail, as well, while counting down their matching 10-minute penalties. The Iranian businessman has been playing high-stakes cash games in mixed ariations for many years. He likes to gamble, and knows how to indulge himself in the finer things in life, therefore preserving his high-roller image. Sheikhan began competing on the tournament circuit only two years ago, yet he's been featured on several televised poker programs. He placed 11th, outlasting 5,608 players, in last year's World Series of Poker championship and won $600,000. In 2004 he made the final table of the Festa al Lago $2,000 no-limit hold'em event.
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| Posted by: stormswa at February 16, 2007, 2:54 am | | Topic: Hellmuth Meltdown Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by wsorbust
wikipedia says he has none....hmmm.
I honestly can't consider him finishing 11th or in the top four of the heads up tourney as such a great accomplishment and qualify him with most of the rest. Come on! lol
top four in the Heads up thing is ery ery impressive.
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| Posted by: wsorbust at February 16, 2007, 2:48 am | | Topic: Hellmuth Meltdown Forum: Card Chat |
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I'm not the biggest Sheiky fan, but the guy does have 3 WSOP final tables to go along with the 11th place finish he had in the '05 Main Event. He's not just a Johnny come lately with a mouth. He can play.
wikipedia says he has none....hmmm.
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dont forget his Heads Up finish in the national Heads up tourney.
I honestly can't consider him finishing 11th or in the top four of the heads up tourney as such a great accomplishment and qualify him with most of the other pros on PAD. Come on! lol But then again, we/I could ask why Kaplan or Hansen, who also have no bracelets, are in there. I really wouldn't mind the guy acting like an ass if he actually seemed friendly to anyone I've seen him play with.
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| Posted by: stormswa at February 16, 2007, 12:58 am | | Topic: Hellmuth Meltdown Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by joosebuck
mike and sheik are good friends, also.
basically every pro you see on HSP are friends. Think about it they have been playing together for soooo long.
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| Posted by: stormswa at February 16, 2007, 12:45 am | | Topic: Hellmuth Meltdown Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by smd173
I'm not the biggest Sheiky fan, but the guy does have 3 WSOP final tables to go along with the 11th place finish he had in the '05 Main Event. He's not just a Johnny come lately with a mouth. He can play.
dont forget his Heads Up finish in the national Heads up tourney.
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| Posted by: stormswa at February 16, 2007, 12:44 am | | Topic: Hellmuth Meltdown Forum: Card Chat |
I like shiek, you never know if they are actually friends off the camera. Alot of pro's play it out for the camera. Just like Daniel and Mike who seem like they cant stand eachother on the camera but are actually good friends off camera.
People play good guys and bad guys on the camera. It is like a poker soap opera.
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| Posted by: smd173 at February 16, 2007, 12:44 am | | Topic: Hellmuth Meltdown Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by wsorbust
Nevertheless, what the hell is Shahram Sheikhan in there playing with the elite pros?
I'm not the biggest Sheiky fan, but the guy does have 3 WSOP final tables to go along with the 11th place finish he had in the '05 Main Event. He's not just a Johnny come lately with a mouth. He can play.
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| Posted by: wsorbust at February 15, 2007, 9:34 pm | | Topic: Hellmuth Meltdown Forum: Card Chat |
I like Phil. (big surprise...*sarcasm*), but what pisses me off is that ugly-ass jersey. Nevertheless, what the hell is Shahram Sheikhan in there playing with the elite pros? The guy is the biggest ass. It's sad that's his real personality, it's not even part of his game, and he can't keep from making stupid comments even after he knows Phil is pissed. It was the first aired episode of Poker After Dark, but I'm thinking it wasn't taped first. I think it was pretty good TV until they interviewed Sheiky and he gave his dumbass "analysis" saying Phil's worse than The Mouth, but, then called him names, like the two year old he thinks Phil is. No respect. Sheiky=Wsorbust at CC. Wsorbust tries to be funny (but isn't really) and doesn't realize his stupidity.
...and that was my analysis.
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| Posted by: zinzan1000 at February 15, 2007, 7:18 pm | | Topic: Hellmuth Meltdown Forum: Card Chat |
At least he was clear and concise unlike some of the other mumbling fools who struggled to string a coherent sentence together.
As for being the greatest poker player in history, when it comes to no limit holdem stellar tournaments, then his boast is fully backed up.
Go Phil, take it all the way.
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| Posted by: joosebuck at February 15, 2007, 7:03 pm | | Topic: Hellmuth Meltdown Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by reglardave
That's truthfully fairly calm for Phil. He once accused an opponent of being unable to spell poker.
that's a common dis about anything. "You can't even spell <insert game here>"
and even though he's a crybaby, i respect his abilities. he's made some pretty sick laydowns. and he makes for great TV
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| Posted by: MrSticker at February 15, 2007, 5:42 pm | | Topic: Hellmuth Meltdown Forum: Card Chat |
Phil has half a point. He did say "please" a few times. But when he got everyone quiet, he started talking himself. When someone talks like that during their decision, everyone else will naturally think it's OK for them to talk also.
And then he took things too far, as usual.
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| Posted by: reglardave at February 15, 2007, 3:32 pm | | Topic: Hellmuth Meltdown Forum: Card Chat |
That's truthfully fairly calm for Phil. He once accused an opponent of being unable to spell poker.
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| Posted by: beardyian at February 15, 2007, 12:47 pm | | Topic: Hellmuth Meltdown Forum: Card Chat |
For those that havent yet seen it - the biggest meltdown yet by (his words) 'The greatest Holdem player in History'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kHkdjmssus
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